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Still waiting for your detailed knowledge of British atrocities in SE Asia.
As an aside, by no means do I wish to undermine the suffering of folks' grandfathers etcdat the hands of the Japanese. Truly.
Though i do find it strange that no-ones grandfather was ever one of the British soldiers who burned raped and murdered their way through SE Asia immediately post-war and for many years after. I don't deny the suffering of your grandfathers, but your lack of recognition of what the British did, denies the suffering of my grandparents and their friends. I really don't want to offend anyone on this sensitive subject, but i only ask for the same recognition which you have.
Of course we still haven't discussed the 1 million Irish the British let die a hundred years earlier as part of that imperial campaign.
Any other questions concerning my 'punctuation' ?
nope, but on grammar, why do you keep using 'worst' instead of 'worse'?
on grammar, why do you keep using 'worst' instead of 'worse'?
That's simply down to 'poor' grammar.
Any other questions ?
'Presentation' maybe ?
War never changes.
In fact it is one of the few things mankind has proven itself to be extremely good at.
That and long winded forum arguments...
This has gone on for 3 pages: RealMan what are you going to do?
Still not sure. I haven't discussed it with her yet as it hasn't come up again, and I'm hesitant to start an argument with a woman (common sense I think). I think I will have to man up and do it though, especially if she mentions it. Its hard because I think its related to Kurds and such, and geography and history are far from my strong points. It seems she's into Turkish politics quite a lot, sounds like they get drilled it from school or something. All very complex.
Though I guess its simple really.
That's simply down to 'poor' grammar.Any other questions ?
'Presentation' maybe ?
nope, you can go ahead with the details of the British atrocities in South East Asia, of which you are fully aware.
War never changes.
Pretty sure it does.
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you can go ahead with the details of the British atrocities in South East Asia, of which you are fully aware.
I can't see anywhere, where I have mentioned anything about British atrocities in South East Asia, apart from the fact that the Philippines, Singapore, China, etc, are free to publicise details of any.
What are you talking about ?
So, this thread has gone from a question about how to deal with the politics of a sensitive, personal issue of racist attitudes to an argument about which race committed the greater atrocities.
How does this help anyone come to an understanding of dealing with prejudice? In that respect, bad is bad and that is all we need to know to live a more tolerant and accepting existence now.
edit - Ha. Realman. Thread reclaim.
I feel the need to enter yet another thread to ask that we leave the Irish out of this particular argument. Yes, the decimation of the population was horrendous, but it wasn't committed as part of a systematic attempt to exterminate a race or through atrocities committed by an army. The fact that the famine continued was largely down to ignorance, politics and bad communication. If the public had realised what was happening, they wouldn't have stood for it. (EDIT: This is purely speculation on my part because though there were some odious politicians involved, the average British person was a decent sort). Yes, people have blood on their hands over it, but it's a different discussion IMO.
Now Cromwell on the other hand... *
* Joke 🙂
over 250,000 civilian refugees burned bodies were recovered from dresden. it is estimated that numbers of civilian dead were much higher as no bodies could be found in the city centre where temps were recorded at 1600 C. this was not a military target and it was known that the city was a refugee camp full of women and children when the orders to create a firestorm were given. Churchill had asked for “suggestions how to blaze 600.000 refugees”. He wasn’t interested how to target military installations 60 miles outside of Dresden.
this does compare with the genocide mate cos it is genocide
And I am fully aware of the role of British, French, and American Imperialism, in SE Asia. It does not however, give me a right to lie and claim that Japanese Imperialism was no worst.
It is implicit in this. unless of course you claim there weren't any.
So, this thread has gone from a question about how to deal with the politics of a sensitive, personal issue of racist attitudes to an argument about which race committed the greater atrocities.
And not forgetting punctuation and grammar 💡