[Closed] Daytime Arseholes - a rant.

That just sounds like any day to me. In fact weekends are normally worse as more people are about. This is why I don’t visit supermarkets

And they are probably all claiming benefits / immigrants / druggies.

I may have missed the full meaning of that then? It’s pretty interchangeable with ‘muppet’ and the like?

And they are probably all claiming benefits / immigrants / druggies.

Only if if you count state pension as a benefit.

I may have missed the full meaning of that then? It’s pretty interchangeable with ‘muppet’ and the like?

https://www.theguardian.com/society/joepublic/2011/oct/19/ricky-gervais-mong-twitter

I may have missed the full meaning of that then? It’s pretty interchangeable with ‘muppet’ and the like?

Derogatory term for those with learning difficulties, iirc

And they are probably all claiming benefits / immigrants / druggies.

How does one go about claiming an immigrant? Asking for a friend.

Derogatory term for those with learning difficulties, iirc

Ah, that’s unfortunate😳

Simple solution. Avoid places with escalators.

How does one go about claiming an immigrant? Asking for a friend.

This fella has a line on it

"A shortened form of Mongoloid or Mongol, a derogatory term for a person affected by mental disorder, especially Down syndrome (originally called Mongolian idiocy by researchers)"

About the same level as labelling someone a "spaz" or "spastic" i.e. something most of us grew out of around the time the main venue for social interaction stopped being a school playground.

Mind you, people are still happily using different variants of the -tard suffix which, if you ask people in and around the learning difficulty "community" is also considered rather offensive for the same reasons.

@P-jay - its a perfectly acceptable, much used word in the context you've used it (I was just using it last week about very similar circumstances!) - Trouble is the online PC gang think you're calling people "mongoloid" which is slang from about the 1970s for Down's Syndrome. Well, they don't think you're calling people that, they WANT to think that so they can get upset and offended about it. You know how it is.

Anyway, Saturdays are the same.

At this time of year the people you are ranting about are surely teachers on summer holidays!

Meanwhile, over on SpongingWasterTrackWorld someone considers starting a thread about some nobber in a hurry hassling them in a supermarket.

They don't though.......can't be bothered.

I may have missed the full meaning of that then? It’s pretty interchangeable with ‘muppet’ and the like?

I find that people that use the word "muppet" are people with no sense of humour, no sense of their own (sometimes glaring) inadequacies, and a smug reducto ad absurdum view of life. The sort of people who think they are above-average drivers, or that other people have "shit cars". They are also often boiling with repressed anger. Imho of course.

Sorry DezB, it pretty much isn't acceptable. Where do you think it came from?

Trouble is the online PC gang think you’re calling people “mongoloid” which is slang from about the 1970s for Down’s Syndrome. Well, they don’t think you’re calling people that, they WANT to think that so they can get upset and offended about it. You know how it is.

Really? It's everybody else that is the problem?

What were you describing when you used it? was it a derogatory term?

Perhaps it's just you are out of touch with how everyone else is these days?

Swoons at P-Jay.  If only everyone could be fit with a working brain and really you should think yourself lucky that you don't encounter me shuffling around a supermarket unable to remember what I've gone in there for.

I prefer Cockwomble.

This phrase embraces a whole raft of gimps

Up until three days ago I would have wondered WTF the OP was talking about but I was in Morrison's and the queue for the shopping trolleys (where you have to put a £1 coin in to release the trolley) was absurd. People stood around in states of utter confusion like it was a recent invention.

@DezB

Etymologies are generally well researched by professional lexicographers. If you "think" the word derives from somewhere different from where the evidence the professionals "think" (or rather, in their case, "have researched") it comes from, then perhaps you could present some of your evidence, as it would be genuinely interesting.

If, on the other hand, you've just unilaterally decided that it means something else, then you're a paedophile*

(Despite what most people may think, and understand, and what the dictionary may say, I've decided that, for me, the word "paedophile" means opinionated moron.)

Maybe the biggest reason for not using the M word is that it becomes what everyone talks about on a thread rather than the actual subject of the OP.

DezB - I'm going to have to disagree, it does have a very derogative and insulting meaning to some people and, for that reason, it's best avoided - like a lot of insults that were bandied about in 1970's playgrounds.

Asda during the day is really bad for this.  It's like the bloody walking dead - folk shuffling around in some weird trance-like state.  An utterly depressing and forgettable experience.

The people who infect society during the working day are just complete XXXX [Mod edit], it’s like they’re on day release or something, just lumps of useless flesh stood agasp in the way, in doorways, at the base of escalators, sort of half in, half out of queues, driving trollies into you like you’re invisible.

Good God, when did this sort of thing start? Has nobody thought to pen an angry letter to the editor?

In my experience of working shifts for donkeys years, it’s always when I realise it’s a Saturday when I get to the shops that I kick myself. There may be some proper dopey zombies wandering around in wrk days, but the sheer volume of human detritus that fills shopping areas at the weekend make it a far worse experience. Sometimes it feels like I’ve entered the set of Dawn of the Dead...

Well, this one always seems a bit ridiculous to me. If you've ever called anyone hysterical, for instance, then you are in no position to criticise. How about sinister? Very offensive to left handed people that you raging xenophobe.

Words are words. If you get offended by a word it doesn't mean the author has intent, and if the context is quite obviously not with intent, it says rather a lot more about the offendee than the user of the "terrible word".

Honestly, I don’t think I’ll ever want to retire

Don't worry your pretty little head about that. By the time most of us get to 'retirement' age, it won't be an issue. Retirement will be viewed as a quaint, indulgent little quirk that belonged to a lucky generation in the late 20th/early 21st century but now dispensed with

It’s like the bloody walking dead – folk shuffling around in some weird trance-like state.

and that's just the staff...

If you get offended by a word it doesn’t mean the author has intent

use the N word in a jokey way in your next work email. It's just a word...

Oh, and as for daytime zombies, if you want the full experience I suggest a stroll round Hyde of a lunchtime. Truly extraordinary levels of weird going on in those parts.

Completely agree with the OP, the local supermarket and town are full of mouth-breathers with IQs very much below the national average. We hate shopping so we get it delivered every week by Ocado, for which the charge is minimal and as trusted customers we get new products to test - recently I got a very nice bottle of single malt for free!  The other benefit of shopping online is that you don't wander around picking up the 2 for 1 offers; you can be much more disciplined in buying only what you need.

If we are forced to shop we go to Booths, which is a privately-owned supermarket chain in NW England that has great products and many have a good cafe too.

My only complaint with that is that pensioners are allowed to shop on Saturdays, thus blocking up the roads and car parks. Why can't they shop during working hours when we are working to pay their pensions?

wwaswas - Clearly there are limits. Doesn't change the facts. Context innit.

By your logic, presumably all the rappers (and others)  that do use the 'N' word are hideous racists and should be stopped?

I suggest a stroll round Hyde of a lunchtime

Jekyll is far more genteel.

Don't worry about retiring, it doesn't automatically make you like them.

By your logic, presumably all the rappers (and others)  that do use the ‘N’ word are hideous racists and should be stopped?

Any thoughts on this Binners?

There's no way I'm getting involved in that Tom 😀

Anyway.... while we're on contentious issues, I'd say the problem isn't pensioners wandering around supermarkets, it's letting the buggers drive! You get a few of them in a car park at the same time and it starts to resemble the dodgems

Point is - those of astute consumer selectivity wouldn't frequent these places anyway. Surely you're part of the crowd you insult?

Delivery, Farmshop, Butcher, Small Grocer etc.

Clearly there are limits. Doesn’t change the facts. Context innit.

In the context of the OP it was the start of this sentence;

like they’re on day release or something, just lumps of useless flesh

and in that context it was exactly the wrong word to use precisely because of it's historic connotations.

By your logic, presumably all the rappers (and others) that do use the ‘N’ word are hideous racists and should be stopped?

like Queer - I think a group of people taking ownership of a word and turning it into something positive isn't necessarily a bad thing. The way a lot of rappers use the N word isn't about trying to use it in a positive way it's just become lazy - so they're not racists, just falling into a stereotype.

If we are forced to shop we go to Booths, which...

is full of entitled privileged arseholes who barge you out of the way as they are much more busy and important...

Had one behind me in the chip shop last night, she might have thought keep pushing me forward we would get served sooner as she looked like she hadn't eaten in a while, probably the best part of ten minutes.

She could however have been uncontrollably attracted to my toned super fit body.

Joking aside there are a lot of folk nowadays drugged up to the eyeballs on prescription drugs, plus the bottle of wine a night club and don't forget the phone zombies.

Well, this one always seems a bit ridiculous to me. If you’ve ever called anyone hysterical, for instance, then you are in no position to criticise. How about sinister? Very offensive to left handed people that you raging xenophobe

I'd personally think twice about describing a woman as hysterical, though do use the word - 'all the hysteria in the media' or whatever.

But I'm not sure how saying 'sinister' would indicate someone's frightened of strangers?

Joking aside there are a lot of folk nowadays drugged up to the eyeballs on prescription drugs, plus the bottle of wine a night club and don’t forget the phone zombies.

and joking aside those who are unbalanced by the chips on their shoulders too!

like Queer – I think a group of people taking ownership of a word and turning it into something positive isn’t necessarily a bad thing. The way a lot of rappers use the N word isn’t about trying to use it in a positive way it’s just become lazy – so they’re not racists, just falling into a stereotype.

Still using the word though aren't they, which is what your problem was with 'other' words. So, it seems its OK to use such words in some contexts but not others, is that right? So, does someone have the right to be offended if such words are used in a 'positive way' if they don't deem it to be acceptable or would such a person be a bit of a fool (etymology - pejorative A person with poor judgement or little intelligence.)?

Still using the word though aren’t they, which is what your problem was with ‘other’ words.

In the OP it was almost a text book example of someone describing a group of people with Downs Syndrome in a way that would be most insulting to them.

So yes, I do have a problem with that.

Not in an 'I'm a snowflake' way but because it appeared calculated to insult.