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There no reports of what he's done in the current complaint but in the past he's been very inappropriate with young men whilst playing the "character" of a predatory paedophile
Yeah, I read the stuff on his 'hide the sausage' stage routine that he seemingly did tens and tens of times, despite complaints from the likes of Peter Tatchell and abuse survivor charities and being punched by the 'victim' on multiple occasions. It's hard to work out how this was a, meant to be funny or b, not stopped by other members of the cast like Matt Lucas or the production company.
Just reading the details in today’s Observer and it’s the same desperately depressing and oh-so-familiar scenario we’ve heard so many times before…
Older bloke in position of power who is (inexplicably IMHO) a profitable asset to a large corporation is allowed to get away with murder in plain sight for decades, while blind eyes are turned all around them. The victims are blamed, silenced and payed off, whatever it takes to keep the gravy train rolling right the way up to the point where it finally becomes untenable.
As already noted, it’s ironic that it’s Harper Collins, being part of the Murdoch empire, who went in two-footed and studs up on the BBC for exactly this same pattern of behavior.
Pots and kettles and all that?
They’re not deleting his titles either, just not publishing any new ones so he, and they, will continue to profit from them (if anyone actually still buys them, of course)
Handbags at 10 paces
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feels like one of those political statements that is designed to say something without actually saying it.
Farage-esque
Matt Lucas seemed to distance himself profesionally quite a few years ago, and they were basically a double act... I wonder if he was getting bad vibes in retrospect?
feels like one of those political statements that is designed to say something without actually saying it
Matt Lucas seemed to distance himself profesionally quite a few years ago
They do a podcast together, Making A Scene. Latest episode is end of October.
By that logic, you can drop an unfounded accusation of unsavoury views into any conversation and providing the other person refutes it, it's OK? "Are you a homophobe, racist, paedophile etc? No? Sorry, my bad. Moving on then, what are you up to at the weekend"?
Context, my dear fellow. You don't see any difference between your reduction here and
Poster 1: "A celebrity has been accused of inappropriate behaviour."
Poster 2: "Well, my wife thinks he's gay."
?
You don't think that sort of comment is worth questioning?
I was surprised that he wasn't also. Though what relevance that has to anything here I don't know. Are you implying that being gay would make him a wrong 'un?
This, for what I'd have thought would be blindingly obvious reasons, but, depressingly, it would seem not.
Seems like the majority here have got the measure of the man.
But anyone bleating about him "not been found guilty of anything yet" should also say whether they'd be happy to leave their teenage daughter with him.
Personally I hope there's enough evidence to justify criminal proceedings, but if not, I'll be delighted if he's just "cancelled".
Context, my dear fellow. You don't see any difference between your reduction here and
Poster 1: "A celebrity has been accused of inappropriate behaviour."
Poster 2: "Well, my wife thinks he's gay."
?
You don't think that sort of comment is worth questioning?
As another poster further up the thread said, fossy's comment could have indicated surprise at the gender of the complainants, or some other reason rather than a belief that "gay men are wrong uns". Personally, I wouldn't feel comfortable implying the latter without ruling out other possibilities, as it's a pretty serious slur if I wasn't 100% sure. Because there is a real person on the receiving end, not just a username.
I don't know fossy, I don't know if you do. My bar for effectively accusing him of homophobia would be set a little higher than the"evidence" on this thread.
You obviously see it differently, which is fair enough. I'll leave this exchange now, I can't see it going anywhere productive.
anyone bleating about him "not been found guilty of anything yet" should also say whether they'd be happy to leave their teenage daughter with him.
My initial question would be "hold on - why didn't anyone tell me I have a teenage daughter?".
As usual, someone in STW Towers has taken a poster's comments in the wrong way.
There is no homophobia in this house. My own son is gay.
My wife was very surprised he's been accused of being a sexual predator especially females ! He's a very odd character - I could never 'read' him.
I actually quite liked the guy - I enjoyed the books, as did my kids. I am shocked he's behaved in this way.
Although reading through this thread it appears Cougar is the forum argument starter ? (putting it politely).
why didn't anyone tell me I have a teenage daughter?".
😆TBH thats something I've long worried about. Given my earlier life of a-roaming, well lets just say my boyish good looks charmed quite a few knickers off.
I do wonder how many mini dyna-ti's there are out there
The new CEO who came in at Harper-Collins was a woman.
They'd been "making allowances" for Walliams for years because he brought in so much money.
She put a stop to it. Good on her.
This kind of thing will go on wherever there's someone who has the ability to bring more to an organisation than anyone else despite them being a total arse \ nasty piece of work \ sex offender etc.
He's filling in for TJ who's on sabbatical
Has there been a purge, Ernie appears to be MIA as well.
I don't know fossy, I don't know if you do. My bar for effectively accusing him of homophobia would be set a little higher than the"evidence" on this thread.
I don't, and I'm poor at keeping track of usernames.
I wasn't accusing anyone of anything though. I was asking a question because - as I said - it seemed a non sequitur. It didn't make any sense (to me) to bring up his sexuality when the sum of the discussion on this thread at that point was that he was a bit creepy / bit weird / well we expected it anyway. The only mention of "young women" (I see now, having gone looking for it) is once in the linked article three posts in.
There is no homophobia in this house. My own son is gay.
Then you will appreciate perhaps why I questioned it. If you took it the wrong way then I'm sorry.
The new CEO who came in at Harper-Collins was a woman.
They'd been "making allowances" for Walliams for years because he brought in so much money.
She put a stop to it. Good on her.
Absolutely. They may have thought it was coming out anyway and he'd be too tainted to carry on with more new books, but they did the right thing.
The old (male) CEO left suddenly apparently. Who knows whether there's an NDA or anything attached to that story.
of course that is pretty much what Walliams said in his statement yesterday! I’m not saying that he’s innocent but I’ve seen loads of behaviour which at the time just seemed like banter but with the benefit of hindsight and a different mindset could be seen as totally in appropriate.
I worked alone with female staff on long shifts, unlike Walliams there was never any warnings not to allow me to be alone with people.
you assume that, but you don’t actually know what muttering went on in other people’s private meetings. I’ve no idea what walliams is alleged to have done. There’s a massive spectrum of what is acceptable in different places but if nobody ever challenges stuff you could easily grow a warped perspective on what acceptable culture is somewhere. IF walliams was a cock and someone said, “ you make my staff feel uncomfortable “ and he continued being a cock I’ve no sympathy for his public shaming. If however a famous comedian is a cock and people laugh at him, then he will presumably see it as encouragement. Laughing throughout his professional engagement and then public shaming without even sitting down to discuss it is like going to a comedians show, laughing all night long and then jumping on social media to declare they are shit.
probably the allegations are in the media now - but these “everyone has always known” stories are odd - because it’s not like he’s Dame Judy Dench: there’s plenty of people who hate him who would be happy to see him fail.
Haven't the cracks in his persona been shown before? Wasn't he binned off something on TV a few years back for inappropriate behavior?
I can't comment directly, but I do know from the odd time we've been involved with the media industry in work, you just can't judge any of the 'talent' by their on-screen persona. Some are just like they are on screen, but maybe turned down by 50%, some are quite nasty, small minded, arrogant arseholes. Maybe they started out differently, or maybe they always were.
One opinion I hold . You shouldn't fall into the idea that that industry is full of well-meaning normal people and there are some dark over-lords who pull the strings. I've not met many people in that industry who wouldn't sell their Grandmother to win favour with 'the talent'. The reason people get away with so much is that everyone from the runners to the director would love to catch a star doing something wrong, not to blow the whistle, but to call in a favour when they need it. Careers are built on it. It's a disgusting thought, but I believe that this is the reason why these things become a pile on. Whilst the Star is high in the sky, even some victims would rather have something over them, but once they start to fall, there's more value in jumping on them. Not all, I'm not victim blaming per-se, but the people who work in media, especially TV and Film are their own worst enemies.