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[Closed] Daughter being paid to do other kids homework - good or bad?

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She just walked in my office and asked if I could print some homework she was doing for another kid off. She's year 7 and got £1.50 for 2/3rds of a sheet of A4 English.

I'm pleased she's good enough to be asked but told her it's not to happen again. Or does it not really matter?

I do need to give her some lessons on subterfuge...


 
Posted : 04/02/2014 5:44 pm
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Entrepreneurial spirit to be encouraged.


 
Posted : 04/02/2014 5:45 pm
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Mr Gove would applaud her early adoption of free market spirit and entrepreneurship.


 
Posted : 04/02/2014 5:46 pm
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Id say £2 a side, at least, £5 for three.


 
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£1.50 for 2/3rds of a sheet of A4 English.

I'd tell her to up her prices. The consequences of getting caught justify at least £5 per half page.


 
Posted : 04/02/2014 5:47 pm
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You need to teach her about minimum wage too - how long did that 2/3 sheet take? Maybe she needs to put her prices up 😉


 
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You want your cut or you're grassing her up, clearly.


 
Posted : 04/02/2014 5:48 pm
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What subject is it? She knows the business, I know the chemistry...


 
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i'd be wary of putting the prices up too much,
how much pocket money does the average 11 (slight guess at age) get?
they cant really go to their parents and ask for more because your daughters upped her prices
maybe she could trade for goods or services, have people come do her chores for her etc.


 
Posted : 04/02/2014 5:51 pm
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told her it's not to happen again.

why not? She may as well profit from the other kids being too thick to do their own work!


 
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I'll give her £10 to do my Yr 5 numeracy planning.


 
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If it's collusion like that then both sides get in trouble.

The best advice is to do homework for kids at other schools, then their disciplinary processes don't apply to you, only the person you do the work for.


 
Posted : 04/02/2014 5:54 pm
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[i]The best advice is to do homework for kids at other schools[/i]

good thinking.

My wife's the Deputy Head at another school - I'll ask her to tout for business over there 🙂

tbh, it's more the getting caught thing that bothers me than the actually doing the work. I watched Grange Hill, it never ends well.


 
Posted : 04/02/2014 5:58 pm
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Tell her to make sure she charges for consumables too - paper and printer inks aren't cheap.


 
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Set her up under a Ltd Company and apply for VAT redg too.. 😉


 
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tbh, it's more the getting caught thing that bothers me than the actually doing the work. I watched Grange Hill, it never ends well.

Once she starts the cash rolling in she can start giving back handers to the teachers to stay quiet, then it's their problem when it all unravels.


 
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Grass the other kid up.


 
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If there's one thing Grange Hill taught us..."just say no!"


 
Posted : 04/02/2014 6:15 pm
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Mr Gove would applaud her early adoption of free market spirit and entrepreneurship.


this especially if it proves that 'private Education services' is more better than some old public sector nonsense. 🙂


 
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maybe she could trade for services

steady on, this is the man's daughter


 
Posted : 04/02/2014 6:29 pm
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There's no money in homework, you need to get her developing apps, that's where the big buck are at. Apparently.

No, wait, thinking about that, she needs to develop a homework app, where kids bid to do other peoples homework - bit like peopleperhour - and your daughter gets 10% of each deal.

Woah, I just came up with a killer app - but I fear that I am about to be Winklevossed by 2was and his kid daughter..... 🙁


 
Posted : 04/02/2014 6:53 pm
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1 Corner the market
2 Raise prices
3 Outsource to India


 
Posted : 04/02/2014 6:58 pm
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My worry would be that she's done for cheating, as in copying the other person's homework. Unless she managed to not only know enough to complete the subject, she can vary her style too...


 
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tbh, it's more the getting caught thing that bothers me than the actually doing the work. I watched Grange Hill, it never ends well.

I was caught doing a mates homework for some money before, nothing came of it other than a mild telling off. She might as well keep going til she gets caught.


 
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Outsourcing to India is an excellent idea. They can do the work at Indian prices, you can take a cut.


 
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Disappointing lack of moral outrage in this thread!

My lad only got as far as buying sweets from Poundland then selling at 200% profit at breaktime.


 
Posted : 04/02/2014 7:16 pm
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Ok, but make sure you get your cut.


 
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Seriously though, I'd tell her not to do it. The other kids are cheating, which is wrong, and she's complicit. It's immoral, end of.


 
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Any chance she can counterfeit some CRC vouchers they are trading for good solid cash on another thread 🙂


 
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On the homework apps front who wants to get together to develop 'the language homework cheating app's as devised by me and my 12 year old daughter last night. Children studying a foreign language ask kids from the relevant country to do their work. if school complaints processes don't overlap between schools we are sorted when it comes to international boundaries separating us. The other advantage is that the app gets of the same age group to do the homework meaning the mistakes will be consistent.


 
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I'd secretly encourage her if I were the OP but, I'd also make it clear to her that if she gets caught, you've never met..

I'd also be invoicing her at a rate of 50p per printed sheet of A4.


 
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Non. Sequential. Bills.


 
Posted : 04/02/2014 7:35 pm
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She needs to up her price to around the £2-2.25 mark and then find some gullible sod to actually do the donkey work for 50p-75p (she can dictate the content etc but the 'mule' can do the actual copying, handing the goods over the end client etc).

That way she makes a reasonable profit for very little risk - plausible deniability etc.

She could go as far as 50/50 on the earnings if pushed but she may as well start with a low offering.


 
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Bad IMO...clearly profiteering from others stupidity 😉


 
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On the homework apps front who wants to get together to develop 'the language homework cheating app's as devised by me and my 12 year old daughter last night. Children studying a foreign language ask kids from the relevant country to do their work.

In our university modern languages department, we had formal translation classes (in preparation for bastid hard no-dictionary-or-nuffink 2x3 hour exams in translating) in our 4th year with erasmus (do they still do that?) students who spoke the target language and needed their (usually rather good) eeengleeesh sharpening up: the whole idea was that we helped each other out. Split into groups of four, English to Foreign one week and Foreign to English the week after. It was ace!


 
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It's immoral, end of.

You'll never make a Tory MP with an attitude like that!


 
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You'll never make an [s]Tory[/s] MP with an attitude like that!

FTFY


 
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+ entrepreneurship
- morals/cheating
? Poor LT pricing but could be good market entry strategy

She can learn three lessons in one go. Bravo.


 
Posted : 04/02/2014 8:44 pm
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She can also put in some incorrect or inappropriate answers for a little humor... 😉

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That last one is pure gold!


 
Posted : 05/02/2014 7:55 am
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Joking aside, i'd put a stop to it straight away. As soon as other kids find out she's doing homework she'll be pressured/bullied into doing the work of kids that prefer to spend their time burning kittens and setting fire to bins. Have you asked if this has already happened?

"Go on, do my work and i'll give you £1.50"

Next week they might not be so friendly.


 
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It could end up in this... its a slippery slope there!

[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-26031482 ]Cheating[/url]

On a different note - outsourcing is good it worked here...and he kept 5/6 of a 6 figure salary!

[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-21043693 ]Outsourcing[/url]


 
Posted : 05/02/2014 10:17 am