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thanks all. Seems that they're tougher than they look
They are certainly not "Defy tough", but plenty tough enough for every day use.
If you're worried/clumsy then add a screen protector (couple of quid and invisible if applied well) and a minimal bumper case.
Whilst the iPhone gurus are here
My old 3GS from work doesn't need to be returned. So one of the kids would like it for a 'party' phone but it'll need unlocking.
It was on O2 business contract but that's now gone and we've moved to BT for the new phones.
I take it that as it isn't any longer on an O2 contract or PAYG, jailbreaking is the only way forward?
If it is locked to O2 then they will unlock it free of charge AFAIK.
http://www.o2.co.uk/apps/help/help?qid=1&q1=2&route=unlocking&case=Hand
They were non committal when I tried the live chat
The phone [or O2] aren't associated with the number any more and I'm not the account holder
I don't think jailbreaking will remove the carrier lock (could be wrong, I'm no iDevice expert).
Might be worth a separate thread rather than a hijack of someone else's?
Might be worth a separate thread rather than a hijack of someone else's?
maybe, it seemed to have digressed a bit anyway 🙂
Fair enough, but the same "popularity" logic applies to software too.
Sure. But from an app perspective, there's very little to separate the two these days. I very rarely if ever find something that one can do that the other can't, although some devs do seem to favour releasing their iPhone app ahead of the Android version.
Cougar: agreed, but I started down this "popular=good" argument not as an "iphone vs Android" jib, but in response to tumnurkoz suggesting iPhones weren't niche enough and he preferred his Nokia N9.
again, thanks all. No intention of trying to start a 'Apple vs Android' war!
Been an Apple evangelist since 1987 and the old Mac Classic & 2 cx, got the first iPod, even have a Newton rotting somewhere in a draw, I loved it back then when we were the rebel alliance against Bill Gates death star.
But now, I hate it everyone has them and blame the iPod and iPhone, so does the bread knife so i got her what 'they' the technical phone elite are proclaiming as 'the best' phone on the market right now, some HTC affair.
Took me ages just to work out how to make a frikking phone call and as to syncing with her contacts, forget it.. It doesn't hook up to iTunes, (I thought they'd let even the PC rabble have iTunes now), so no, in our world the iPhone still rules, frankly I'd hate to live without it now, it's a weather forecaster, tells me how windy it is, I strava with it on the sea as well as the land, it doubles as a sat nav if I'm lost, if I don't know something I ask it, it wakes me up in the morning, plays me the radio or iTunes, plays movies, has all my family pictures, and vids of stuff I get to see in my travels, connects me with Facebook and ****ter if I want, is a calculator and a camera, is a compass, a torch, a hard drive, a piano, a tide watch, and a notepad, it really is the wonder of the age, not saying android doesn't do the same but if it does, it's so geeky like everything else PC, I can't be asked to find out how...
Now if only they'd fit a bottle opener..
it's a weather forecaster, tells me how windy it is, I strava with it on the sea as well as the land, it doubles as a sat nav if I'm lost, if I don't know something I ask it, it wakes me up in the morning, plays me the radio or iTunes, plays movies, has all my family pictures, and vids of stuff I get to see in my travels, connects me with Facebook and ****ter if I want, is a calculator and a camera, is a compass, a torch, a hard drive, a piano, a tide watch, and a notepad, it really is the wonder of the age
You are CountZero's alternative log in and I claim my five pounds 😀
I don't mean to be rude, but,
...it's a... piano
What the I don't even...
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a tiny lil piano for tiny girl hands
for tiny girl hands
You've got me, that's an accessory you can't get for Android.