[Closed] Christian Hotel Ruling

"Here at Chymorvah we have few rules, but please note that as Christians we have a deep regard for marriage(being the union of one man to one woman for life to the exclusion of all others).

Therefore, although we extend to all a warm welcome to our home, our double bedded accommodation is not available to unmarried couples – Thank you."

I'm assuming the B&B owners asked for marriage certificates, and also checked that their guests weren't remarried divorcees, and had never had affairs.

Except they allowed non-married couples to stay in their double rooms.
[i]
"Mr & Mrs Bull’s argument that they denied double rooms to all unmarried people, not just homosexuals, has been shown to be false by one of the National Secular Society’s Council members, Dr Ray Newton. He stayed at this hotel in a double room with an unmarried partner – they registered under different names – but they were not challenged, and we understand that the hotel’s website made no reference to declining unmarried heterosexual couples."[/i]

Ear, Yeti; can you email Petesgaff with your details, like your real name and that, for his Bullheart MM thingy?

Yeahp, yeahp, it'll be organic. Made from sustainable wooden trees and coloured with natural vegetable dyes. None of which will be harmed in the process of making it.

I bet the BnB owners have featured on http://ifyoulikeitsomuchwhydontyougolivethere.com/

Dafties. Turning people away cause some mythical fairy maybe mentioned something about men who like each other.

No room in this day and age for ancient and destructive attitudes such as theirs.

Will do Elfin! Edit - Done!

I'm glad this arguement seems to be fizzling out - I'm gay and I'm not half as offended as you lot seem to be

toab, that's all well and good, but let's not beat about the bush - What sort of biscuit do you want?

😉

Well, I'm vegan and I'm offended.
I'm not sure what by yet, but I'll think of something.

Can I be offended on your behalf please, Toab?

And what's all that 'good with colours' thing? I've never understood that. Where did that one come from?

God, life is confusing enough at the best of times...

MTG - Wanna buy a farm set?

I'm glad this arguement seems to be fizzling out - I'm gay and I'm not half as offended as you lot seem to be

I'm offended that you're not offended enough.

I'm now offended that Grumm's offended. 😕

....Wunundred!

Can I be offensive?

*Sits waiting....hoping someone asks, "Can I be blunt?"......*

Wanna buy a farm set?

toab - Member

I'm glad this arguement seems to be fizzling out - I'm gay and I'm not half as offended as you lot seem to be

It's not the fact that the couple were gay that I see as the problem, it's the fact that anyone should be told who they can and can't do business with.

I choose who I want to do business with on a daily basis, and I feel it's nobody's business but my own and I don't think I should have to justify it. The couple *should* have the right to decide whether or not they want to enter into a business contract with whoever.

The only problem I have that could possibly be linked to the gay aspect of this situation is that the pro-homosexuality lobby are particularly vociferous and - as in this case - are prepared to bring these cases in the promotion of their political cause, without any consideration to the morality of a crusade like this, or the ordinary people that they are prosecuting. It stinks.

We're talking about a very twee Christian couple that open their home up as a B&B to other Christians where they can discuss their fairy tails and read the myriad god-bothery pamphlets that they leave strewn around the place. Why on earth would a pair of non religious, affluent, educated men want to stay in a place like that anyway? One reason only: to make an example of what they perceived to be some sort of persecution - the denial of a right that they probably didn't even want in the first place.

*Sits waiting....hoping someone asks, "Can I be blunt?"

I'd rather you din't please, Flashy. 😐

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Not THAT Blunt!

The correct response to the question, "Can I be blunt?" is of course, "Only if I can be Philby"

More than happy for people to be offended on my behalf, particularly if they have biscuits (malted milk for preference).

Me and Mr. Toab were once asked not to come back to a pub in the depths of Welsh Wales, but mainly cos Mr. Toab wouldn't keep his hands to himself and it was upsetting the regulars, who were keeping the business going. The managment were really very polite about it and I didn't really feel I could blame them.

😆

This thread is now sublime in it's ridiculousness.

Is it time for Ostriches and Penguins?

I'm offended by your choice of biscuit, they're almost as bad as those pink waffer things..

The Muslim religion is still struggling with the concept that possesing a female body isn't an incitement to rape and thus doesn't immediately require full coverage when, in fact, a bit of self control from those with male bodies is all that's required.

thank God that on a topic about a christian discriminating against gay people we managed to demonise the Mulsims attitude to women... I was worried for a moment then that all this egalitarian nonesense that had got hold of the brethren thank God we know who the real badies are oh yes an Gypsies
EDIT: It actually askes nbothe males and females to dress modestly and that females should cover their hair ...the othe rstuff is mor ecultural than religous as you can find non Muslims who were the Burkha as well ...but you knew all that and were just toying with us.

My kids vegan farm has animals and we liberate them daily from the yoke of servitude and set them free as equals

Ain't no animals on it MTG - it's vegan!

Mr Toab is more than welcome to squeeze my arse toab. Rumour has it, it's even nicer than Elfin's.

Found a news site with a more accurate report of what happened.

http://newsthump.com/2011/01/18/christian-bb-owners-bemoan-loss-of-niche-homophobic-bigot-market/

[i]We're talking about a very twee Christian couple that open their home up as a B&B to other Christians where they can discuss their fairy tails and read the myriad god-bothery pamphlets that they leave strewn around the place. [/i]
Are we?
Could you highlight the whole Christian vibe thing on their hotel website please?
[url] http://www.chymorvah.co.uk/ [/url]

I feel we should all be tolerant of this intolerance

Surely people who are intolerant have as much right to tollerance as everyone else?

Rumour has it, it's even nicer than Elfin's.

C'est not possible. Bloody liar.

...almost as bad as those pink waffer things

The law in this country is pretty clear - you are not allowed to discriminate in the provision of goods and services - all must have equal access

The above sentence probably answers your concerns legally if not necessarily to your satisfaction.

But... does this ruling mean that all the Camp Sites, B&Bs, etc., that refuse single-sex parties [eg a group of male MTBers] will have to change their rules?

mr toab this thread is uselss without pictures are you smoking hot or was Mr Toab simpley consumed by the beer goggles?

you sure that pink is not caused by cochineal and I think you will fidn it is flapjacks and bourbons Graham

Shibboleth i notice your user name is a biblical code word? I notice that your description:"We're talking about a very twee Christian couple that open their home up as a B&B to other Christians" bears no relation to the truth as per the business in questions web site.

Is there a reason you started this thread? What are your views on theirs do you agree that discriminating against people on the basis of their sexuality is repugnant?

Right, that does it, I really am offended this time. I'm going to flounce off for a few hours.

Ooh! Get her! 😆

Don't be mean about James Blunt he's lovely. And he used to drive tanks you know, and thats not a euphemism.

and dont those pink wafers contain egg and egg powder?

No commitment these vegans.

MTG, I stand by my comments on pink wafer things and am currently lobbying to get them banned to grounds of taste and decency, they are an afront to high tea snacks.

crankboy - Member
What are your views on theirs do you agree that discriminating against people on the basis of their sexuality is repugnant?

I don't agree with their views on marriage, and I have no problem at all with homosexuality (apart from the fissures). I don't have any religious beliefs either. But I believe that their religious views should be respected by the law in the same way that we tend to respect other religions and cultures in this country.

I feel that the militant pro-homo lobby are the real bigots in this case, as they refuse to respect other people's beliefs.

Personally, I'd be more than happy for them to stay under my roof and kick each other's back doors in to their hearts content... As long as they don't wipe on the curtains.

hels, he's not. He's the only man who is is own rhyming slang.

militant pro-homo lobby are the real bigots in this case, as they refuse to respect other people's beliefs.

[i]apart from the fissures[/i]

Is that where the song comes from?

We will make you fissures of men?

I shall obtain my outerwear forthwith....

... but you WILL remove your outerwear whenst thou entereth my dwellingplace.

@Junkyard, sorry I have no photos of that Mr. Toad - I'm afraid he didn't last.

"Shibboleth i notice your user name is a biblical code word?"

I thought it was an anagram of "right wing bigot" although that may just be an assumption......

thing is, no-where in the bible does it say you shouldn't let a gay couple, or an unmarried couple, sleep in your spare room. It does say you shouldn't have sex unless you're married (however the definition of married is a little blurry), and if you do so you'll be punished, but no-where does it suggest you should do the punishing..