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Agreed @JY


 
Posted : 08/01/2015 1:57 pm
 hora
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"enormous pressure from sponsors and threats to staff and their families".

I call Shenanigans on this. Partial reporting, unknown sources, over-heard comments. Where did this originate from? Beeb and the media hamming it up again to sensationalise.


 
Posted : 08/01/2015 2:00 pm
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There are no winners here.

I'd argue the sponsors that boycotted Oldham have won a perceived moral victory, especially in terms of presenting themselves as whiter than white.


 
Posted : 08/01/2015 2:50 pm
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[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30727380 ]I'm very sorry. There I've said it, can I have a job now please?[/url]


 
Posted : 08/01/2015 2:59 pm
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The apology that isn't really an apology seems to be frightfully fashionable nowadays


 
Posted : 08/01/2015 3:01 pm
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There are no winners here.
pretty bad if it did happen
Partial reporting, unknown sources, over-heard comments. Where did this originate from?
bbc didn't seem to offer details, just mentioned threats in the headline.
But depressingly believable, internet abuse is quite prevalent lets face it.


 
Posted : 08/01/2015 3:06 pm
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Oldham have said no to him now.........though apparrantly he is taking it as a yes .


 
Posted : 08/01/2015 3:08 pm
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This guy is showing he's colours. Or his brain.


 
Posted : 08/01/2015 3:13 pm
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edit. change of news


 
Posted : 08/01/2015 3:16 pm
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I seem to remember that Oldham have a track record for employing jailbirds - Lee Hughes?


 
Posted : 08/01/2015 3:18 pm
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It should be remembered that the Criminal Cases Review Commission is not a formal part of the Appeal Process it can only refer a case to the court of Appeal who will then make a further decision to uphold conviction quash conviction or order a retrial.

The previous link to the crimeline summery which itself links to the full transcript of the judjments suggests the court has fully considered all of the possible versions of potential Appeal including Evan's two different defences at trial "she can't have forgotten through drink so she must be a liar" and at appeal "she can't have formed short term memories by virtue of drink but would still have had immediate working memory so could well have had capacity to consent and indeed did consent but now can't remember doing so."

The court of appeal believed the case was one of classic jury issues who do you believe? are you sure of guilt? the court points to the two different verdicts to demonstrate the process was fair to the defence and that the jury properly weighed up all the evidence .

To my limited experience it seems very unlikely that the CRCC would come up with anything that would justify a referral back to the court of appeal and even less likely that the C of A would order a retrial or quash outright .


 
Posted : 08/01/2015 3:28 pm
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Oldham have said no to him now.........though apparrantly he is taking it as a yes .

Very good. Although the truth is that they did say yes to him, then changed their mind, and he's been left in the lurch as a result.


 
Posted : 08/01/2015 3:35 pm
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theotherjonv

ah that old chestnut, the issue of consent


 
Posted : 08/01/2015 4:12 pm
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I don't think he'll spy a vunerable woman walking past and cohere/lead her to his hotel where his mate can film the event for prosperity again.


 
Posted : 08/01/2015 4:25 pm
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I don't think he'll spy a vunerable woman walking past and cohere/lead her to his hotel where his mate can film the event for prosperity again

That was McDonald's role in the case and he was found not guilty.


 
Posted : 08/01/2015 4:42 pm
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I don't think he'll spy a vunerable woman walking past and cohere/lead her to his hotel where his mate can film the event for prosperity again.

Hopefully it will act as a warning to others too.


 
Posted : 08/01/2015 5:08 pm
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Oldham's statement is online. Reads like somebody talked them into trying to sign a convicted rapist and that the whole issue was forced on them... 😕

"...we'd like to thank everybody who supported the club through this difficult period..." (Or words to that effect)

#prayforOldham
#prayforChed


 
Posted : 08/01/2015 6:05 pm
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In the article above, it states that someone's daughter will get raped if they sign him. I truly despair 🙄


 
Posted : 08/01/2015 6:10 pm
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Jane - with no source or evidence. Sensational journalism.

If you sign a rapist which we are abhor we'll rape you.

Doesn't make sense hence its a story from a story (Chinese whispers).

More than likely someone said 'how would you like it if you were the one raped'. This was retold and then reported twisted and it makes a catching headline so why not run it?

Seen the been website run sensational headlines before (unrelated) which I complained about and received an explanation/apology.


 
Posted : 08/01/2015 7:08 pm
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Doesn't make sense

you loiter on the internte do you think everyone out there makes sense?

and yes your entirely drawn from your imagination account with no actual evidence or information on the story is almost definitely the correct one.

Best get back to lecturing us about things on the internet making sense


 
Posted : 08/01/2015 7:20 pm
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In the paper (Independent) this morning it was reported that the father of Evans' fiancée had offered OAFC £2 million to cover any losses they would incur by signing Evans.
What sort of man not only allows a convicted rapist within a country mile of his daughter, but then attempts to buy him a lucrative position???


 
Posted : 08/01/2015 7:21 pm
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What sort of man not only allows a convicted rapist within a country mile of his daughter, but then attempts to buy him a lucrative position???

Obviously one who believes Ched is innocent of the charges and shouldn't of been arrested in the first place. There's not many other explanations.


 
Posted : 08/01/2015 7:23 pm
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Junkyard do you believe all you read in the papers? All Partial/part of the story reporting.

May I remind you you live on the internet too, or is that rude to point out the obvious.


 
Posted : 08/01/2015 7:24 pm
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Don't know about the rest of you, but its not a scenario I would be putting up with (not that I have a daughter mind you).


 
Posted : 08/01/2015 7:26 pm
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You saw a dig where none was given - if one was it was at your account rather than use of the internet


 
Posted : 08/01/2015 7:28 pm
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Or minds his daughter cheated on.


 
Posted : 08/01/2015 7:29 pm
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His little princess fantasy world and sugar coated future has collapsed around her and he is prepared to pay any price to make it right for her? Even if as her dad believed Evans' story " I cheated on your daughter by getting a mate to seduce a drunk lass who I then burst in on and had sloppy seconds before sneaking out the window leaving her naked and alone and so drunk she wet herself" would you want him as a future husband for your daughter.


 
Posted : 08/01/2015 7:57 pm
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My MIL might still choose him before me 😉

It makes no sense that her family would bankroll this
I assume we would all stand by our own kid were they Ched * but whatever happened he has done treated your daughter wrong. Much more likely to chin him than help him

* please let me never ever find myself in this position it felt horrible writing that.


 
Posted : 08/01/2015 7:59 pm
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The video he released with his girlfriend was especially cringeworthy.
She was saying she loved him and wouldn't leave him.
A convicted rapist. And if proven innocent on appeal, an adulterer who told his friends to video him having sex with a paralytic girl. True love there honey.
Let's see how long she'll be around now she realises she won't be a WAG anymore.


 
Posted : 08/01/2015 8:05 pm
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Iolo - the WAG thing did cross my mind, a silly young woman so desperate to be a footballers wife (with all the alleged social status that would bring) she is willing to marry a lecherous, adulterous rapist.
How sad.


 
Posted : 08/01/2015 8:10 pm
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Iolo after your helmet-gate today...

+1


 
Posted : 08/01/2015 8:31 pm
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Another +1 for iolo. This is the only explanation I can think of and it is truly sad.


 
Posted : 08/01/2015 8:50 pm
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