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LOL at the high and mighty I'm better than you on here. ๐
Ok, real world people. Undertaking unless you are moving with the flow of traffic in congestion is [b]against the law[/b] and [b]dangerous[/b] FACT.
Middle Lane Hoggers are one of the biggest causes of congestion and are complete idiots for doing so. FACT.
People will still middle lane hog, no matter what you do, so don't drive like a dick to prove a point!
I have in the past in my youth flashed people, undertaken people, gesticulated that they are the son of satan etc etc etc. It makes no difference and you end up being just as much of a liability on the road as them trying to prove a point!!
...they should still be checking their blindspot when pulling back in, but since they don't seem able to remember the rules of the road I suspect they won't remember to look either.
Exactly. If they are that unobservant that they haven't noticed you approaching behind them or that the inside lane is clear then what are the chances of them checking their left mirror and blindspot before pulling in?
Ok, real world people. Undertaking unless you are moving with the flow of traffic in congestion is against the law and dangerous FACT.
Which law would that be, then? I think you'll find, etc etc.
Middle lane drivers have provided good entertainment whilst driving vans, in convoy there is the box option, though my favourite is probably circling, which means the road is pretty empty and they are still out there, one guy went frickin' bansai on our 9th loop as he realised what was going on.
That's a shame, if you'd got to ten then protocol dictates that you start circling in the other direction.
Following HC advice - in many situations, where the outside lane is congested and moving slower than the middle lane, that constitutes a queue and therefore you can undertake?
Which law would that be, then
Yeah, I suppose you're one of [u]those[/u] drivers who thinks that talking on your mobile, speeding, undertaking, etc don't technically apply to you because your better than everyone else! ๐
Yeah, I suppose you're one of those drivers who thinks that talking on your mobile, speeding, undertaking, etc don't technically apply to you because your better than everyone else!
No, I think he was asking whch law applies exactly. Unlike all of the examples you provided which have a specific law against them.
only overtake on the left if the vehicle in front is signalling to turn right, and there is room to do so
Taken from the highway code
[url= http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_069862 ]Highway Code[/url]
Do not overtake on the left or move to a lane on your left to overtake. In congested conditions, where adjacent lanes of traffic are moving at similar speeds, traffic in left-hand lanes may sometimes be moving faster than traffic to the right. In these conditions you may keep up with the traffic in your lane even if this means passing traffic in the lane to your right. Do not weave in and out of lanes to overtake.
Its pretty straightforward, no? ๐
Have any of you taken lessons beyond the basic test?
If not, your opinions are void.
The Highway Code isn't law in and of itself. A lot of it is backed up by law, but that bit isn't.
The Highway Code isn't law in and of itself. A lot of it is backed up by law, but that bit isn't.
Yes but if you are in an accident and it transpires that you were breaking the highway code then it is you that is screwed
The Highway Code isn't law in and of itself
Ah, that Chestnut! Brilliant.
But [b]YOU[/b] can choose to ignore what you want, because [b]YOU[/b] are better than everyone else. ๐
They've got a point though LHS. Undertaking is not [i]"against the law..FACT"[/i] as far as I can tell.
It is breaking the advice/rules in the Highway Code which would influence liability in an accident and could be used as contributory evidence of "driving without due care" or possibly even "dangerous driving", but it doesn't seem to be an offence on it's own.
LHS > Don't be obtuse.
They've got a point though LHS
I beg to differ.
The highway code is there to be followed.
If a policeman saw you driving like a dick you would get points and a fine. Why should selfish drivers who pick and choose what they think is applicable to them?
LHS > Don't be obtuse
Why do people think they are above what applies to everyone else? Seriously?
Why do you assume that you know the first thing about me? Or anyone else for that matter?
and to summarise the thread....
Anticipate, Overtake and forget about it, unless:
1) TJ is the Middle lane hog
2) LHS & Cougar are having some kind of road rage spat in front of you.
Alternate Option:
Work from home and go out for a sneaky ride on your bike at 'lunchtime' and vent your frustrations out on that nasty climb 3/4 way round your local loop.
As John Lennon said: Life's too short to waste it being angry
To expand on that,
Everyone picks and chooses what they do, everyone has their own moral code, their own interpretation of what rules they choose to recognise. I fail to see why you'd think that was due to some sort of superiority complex.
I'm not saying it's right to do so, but people break laws all the time. Ever littered? Downloaded a song off bittorrent? Copied a C90 full of Spectrum games back at school? Driven at 71mph? Used a phone whilst driving? Obtained dodgy porn? Had your Playstation chipped?
It's easy to break the law, hell, it's easy to do it accidentally.
2) LHS & Cougar are having some kind of road rage spat in front of you.
Arf. (-:
It's easy to break the law
Good for you! ๐
And where exactly did I say I'd done all (or indeed any) of those things?
Anyway, I think I'm going to bow out of this discussion. You seem determined to make it personal based on inaccurate assumptions, and I've no interest in a flame war. It's just getting tedious.
LHS seems to be taking whatever small chunk of a post he can to use against your argument, rather than looking at the overall intent of the post. Don't take it personally, some people just miss the bigger picture when arguing.
Who's arguing? I'm merely discussing. (-:
Nah, in seriousness I'm too old and grumpy to take Internet 'arguments' seriously. Water off a Cougar's back. I was more concerned with not boring the p155 out of everyone else.
