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[Closed] Car damaged by cows in a car park.. Whose insurance / liable?

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That amount of damage to a T5 is going to cost over £2k easily in parts and body shop labour (at a good repairer)

I think that's probably milking it a bit...


 
Posted : 17/08/2015 1:53 pm
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I think that's probably milking it a bit...

You've really got this punning off pat now.


 
Posted : 17/08/2015 2:00 pm
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I think it's time to moove on here


 
Posted : 17/08/2015 2:01 pm
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[i]I think it's time to moove on here [/i]

Cow puns should definitely be seen and not herd.


 
Posted : 17/08/2015 2:03 pm
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Pull the udder one


 
Posted : 17/08/2015 2:05 pm
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Was there not a thread about this fromages ago?


 
Posted : 17/08/2015 2:23 pm
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[i]Was there not a thread about this fromages ago? [/i]

We'd better go Caerphilly on the cheese puns, then.


 
Posted : 17/08/2015 2:28 pm
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stretch limousin

<ripple of applause>


 
Posted : 17/08/2015 2:54 pm
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The Police didnt know who should be claiming off who.

Can't see why they'd need to know, they're not insurance underwriters.


 
Posted : 17/08/2015 3:02 pm
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OP's gone quiet, must be ruminating on the suggestions. I can't believe the farmer accused the OP of being in the wrong field, how dairy.


 
Posted : 17/08/2015 3:06 pm
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Think you'll need bovine intervention to get this sorted out.


 
Posted : 17/08/2015 3:12 pm
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Its smashed off the drivers side mirror, smashed a rear light and cracked the other, dented the boot, dented the rear wing, and put several scratches in the paint work.
You're lucky not to have had a hoof in the slats, IMO

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Posted : 17/08/2015 3:36 pm
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So you drive accross the cows front garden and then complain when they try to mooove you on. A bull would have Hoofed you out and charged you.


 
Posted : 17/08/2015 3:55 pm
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Nothing useful to add except maybe next time park in a field full of elephants, they seem far better mannered than cows when around cars
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Posted : 17/08/2015 9:52 pm
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I don't know why so many people here are bigoted against cows. I wouldn't have had you down as a bunch of vache-ists.


 
Posted : 17/08/2015 10:08 pm
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The farmer will be insured, no doubt with the NFU with a minimum of 5 million third party liability (it is the industry standard). He will have informed his insurers about the parking enterprise. When your bill comes in he will hand it to the girl down the local NFU office, who will do all the paperwork and you will get reimbursed. If worried, ask to speak to his insurer and get them to sort out the repair with an nfu approved repair centre. You won't then even have to handle any of the claim/quote work yourself.

In my experience, the NFU may not be the cheapest insurance but it is consistently the best to deal with (as a farmer anyway), when the shit hits the fan (sounds like it almost did quite literally in this case).


 
Posted : 17/08/2015 10:11 pm
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so you left one of the several gates open, let the cows in, and one damaged your car? 😉


 
Posted : 17/08/2015 10:12 pm
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The farmer will be insured...
...no doubt with the NFU
....He will have informed his insurers about the parking enterprise.

Can I have this weekends lottery numbers while you're on please Mystic Meg 🙂


 
Posted : 18/08/2015 8:54 am
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Are we still churning this one over


 
Posted : 18/08/2015 8:57 am
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Nah, just chewing the cud now.


 
Posted : 18/08/2015 9:54 am
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Some of these comments really don't cut the mustard........


 
Posted : 18/08/2015 10:25 am
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Ooo cow puns.
Err now what's left...?

[s]milk it[/s]
[s]cud[/s]
[s]mooove[/s]
[s]udder[/s]
[s]herd[/s]
[s]moo-dy[/s]

This is offal there are hardly any left.


 
Posted : 18/08/2015 10:53 am
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Dair-y leave his car in another farmer's carpark after this episode? I suspect not.


 
Posted : 18/08/2015 10:56 am
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Dair-y leave his car in another farmer's carpark after this episode? I suspect not.
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He butter not.


 
Posted : 18/08/2015 11:07 am
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I'm now fearful Mrs cloudnine will reverse into something today as it's way trickier reversing with the mirror missing.

I would be as you are driving a vehicle in a non roadworthy state, as you stated in your earlier post that it was the drivers side mirror, this is an obligatory mirror, and required to be roadworthy, be difficult at that point to claim for any further damage incurred.


 
Posted : 18/08/2015 11:15 am
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what sort of percentage increase do you reckon the insurers will add, for one non fault claim, that would recover a "significant proportion" of that sort of claim ?

Our van got crashed into by neighbour, £1800 damage with costs fully recovered from her policy, my insurance has gone up by, on average £100 per vehicle for 5 years, I insure 5 vehicles so over the time I'd have been better off paying for it myself than claiming....


 
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Our van got crashed into by neighbour, £1800 damage with costs fully recovered from her policy, my insurance has gone up by, on average £100 per vehicle for 5 years, I insure 5 vehicles so over the time I'd have been better off paying for it myself than claiming....

What percentage rise is that as a total ?

To be fair though, it does sound like you live next door to a really crap driver. From an Actuarial point of view that liability is ever present (unlike a random carpark ding away from home) and your insurers are protecting themselves against it by increasing the premium.

Quite different from most non fault claims really.

As is you insuring five cars in your name.

Although, if those increases are genuine, and you can prove it, you can claim against the at fault party's insurers as that is a direct loss to you that they are still liable for. Most people don't bother as it's just a few quid, but your situation is quite different for a number of reasons.


 
Posted : 18/08/2015 12:35 pm
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Just refitted a new mirror.. off the top of his head body shop estimate £2.5k+ 😯

Will have an accurate quote later which i'll present to the farmer....


 
Posted : 18/08/2015 3:51 pm
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(H)oooof!


 
Posted : 18/08/2015 3:54 pm
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I can imagine his response... "Pull the Udder one!"


 
Posted : 18/08/2015 4:59 pm
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I said it would be a heiferty bill.


 
Posted : 18/08/2015 5:00 pm
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Will have an accurate quote later which i'll present to the farmer....

Hope it goes well.


 
Posted : 18/08/2015 7:10 pm
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I'd feel a little sorry for the farmer but at the end of the day if he's taking money for parking and his animals damaged the vehicle he's at fault.


 
Posted : 18/08/2015 7:16 pm
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Perhaps the farmer will say nayyyy as he has moooo insurance to cover this incident.


 
Posted : 18/08/2015 7:21 pm
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On the horns of a dilemma. I'd get the quote and beef it up a bit and give him some bull and try to cow him into submission. Dexter


 
Posted : 18/08/2015 7:33 pm
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Still waiting for exact quote but basically the tailgate is all dented and rippled (needs a new one), front wing is dented, other front wing is scratched, rear wing is dented, scratched down side to bare metal, scratches on drivers door where the snapped wing mirror gouged into the paint, scratch on bonnet which may polish out, broken drivers mirror, both rear lights broken. The bodyshop did say they ve done quite a few cow damaged cars before and the nfu are generally very good with paying up on claims..


 
Posted : 18/08/2015 7:43 pm
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Your car was quite literally t-boned.


 
Posted : 18/08/2015 7:51 pm
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One claim against the udder.


 
Posted : 18/08/2015 7:55 pm
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What happenns if the farmer Giles, disputes your claim for damages caused by his cows, damage may have been there before you parked up may be his reasoning.


 
Posted : 18/08/2015 7:55 pm
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That's when you would get your own insurers involved and give them all the details.

Let them fight your corner. For a bill that's going to be a bit shy of £3k (by the sound of it) it's well worth it.


 
Posted : 18/08/2015 8:34 pm
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The farmer kindly used his tractor and washed the van for me when i took him the quote...

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Posted : 18/08/2015 9:38 pm
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Think they were fresians

Cold day?


 
Posted : 18/08/2015 11:19 pm
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so we head through several gates

Open or closed??


 
Posted : 18/08/2015 11:27 pm
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Is your car a BMW with leather seats?

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Posted : 19/08/2015 7:33 am
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Still waiting for exact quote but basically the tailgate is all dented and rippled (needs a new one), front wing is dented, other front wing is scratched, rear wing is dented, scratched down side to bare metal, scratches on drivers door where the snapped wing mirror gouged into the paint, scratch on bonnet which may polish out, broken drivers mirror, both rear lights broken. The bodyshop did say they ve done quite a few cow damaged cars before and the nfu are generally very good with paying up on claims..

Have you spoken to a dent removal company? They do some amazing work and surely worth a go? After having paint and new panels you will always see the difference so I'd try and avoid that at all costs.


 
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