As I am struggling to grasp how people are making the link between the outcome of the GE and the appetite for a hard Brexit.
Seems to me that the 'remoaners' are just using it as an excuse to try an water it down 🙄
This has been a total shambles and I blame the Tory party 100% for the mess. The chain of events should have been.
1) Cameron signed Article 50 within days of the result
2) Move straight to WTO rules
3) Emergency budget to stimulate the economy.
I am still crossing my fingers that a 'Hard Brexit' will be implemented.
I am still crossing my fingers that a 'Hard Brexit' will be implemented
Good luck with that 😆
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Pick one of the other threads?
I am still crossing my fingers that a 'Hard Brexit' will be implemented.
Because your an idiot? Seriously what good does it do the country? What does a crashing pound and increasing food prices do? Why does every business group call for a sensible and amicable solution?
That is unless your just trolling?
Seems to me that the 'remoaners' are just using it as an excuse to try an water it down
The result was a vote to leave the EU
The result was not a vote to leave the EU dictated entirely by tories
Dry your eyes
They are both voted for by ****ing idiots.
Because your an idiot? Seriously what good does it do the country? What does a crashing pound and increasing food prices do? Why does every business group call for a sensible and amicable solution?
That is unless your just trolling?
Or Russian.
But we have to go the negotiating table for this "hard Brexit" with the EU now laughing at us, we are fast burning our bridges with Europe and the US, both of these are pretty big markets for export i'm guessing?
As someone stated, May spent £132 million on losing her majority, and we are sending her to negotiate Brexit? She can't gauge what is going on in the UK let alone elsewhere.
Junckers came out of his first meeting with May stating "i'm now 10x more sceptical than i was when i walked in"
As I am struggling to grasp how people are making the link between the outcome of the GE and the appetite for a hard Brexit.
Are you a dribbling moron? You can't work that out for yourself? Really?
I am still crossing my fingers that a 'Hard Brexit' will be implemented.
Oh, you ARE a moron. Sorry for the offence.
I am still crossing my fingers that a 'Hard Brexit' will be implemented.
Theresa? Is that you?
What a snowflake - complaining when democracy doesn't go his way.
Though to be fair, he got this bit right
[quote=flanagaj ]This has been a total shambles and I blame the Tory party 100% for the mess.
flanagaj - Member
Seems to me that the 'remoaners' are just using it as an excuse to try an water it down
The gullibles just want to stop it by whatever means they can. Very predictable. 😆
I doubt you can gain an inch without fighting hard for it because they are going all out for it as they have nothing to loose.
They are using all sort of tactics even if it means bringing down the country to use it to justify their ways. Then pinning it on the govt as "failure". 😆
Basically they are just setting the next generations like lame to the slaughter for the EU bureaucratic system. They think they can be "in" the system to influence ... 😆
Because [s]your[/s] you're an idiot?
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Where there is harmony, May will bring discord.
Where there is truth, May will bring error.
Where there is faith, May will bring doubt.
And where there is hope, May will bring despair."
With apologies to maggie and St Francis of Assisi
OP - you are going to be OK, the troops have arrived. Well, the Chewy bloke anyway. He'll be talking about maggots in a minute but don't worry it's only a phase; he's got some brilliant arguments up his sleeve for you.
That's Zombie Mayggots if you please.
Have you not worn out that emoji yet chewkw.
Hard Brexit being a possibility has already damaged the economy and many industries. I didn't vote for the Tories and don't want a hard Brexit, the two things are connected.
convert - Member
OP - you are going to be OK, the troops have arrived. Well, the Chewy bloke anyway. He'll be talking about maggots in a minute but don't worry it's only a phase; he's got some brilliant arguments up his sleeve for you.
I am only one. How many of you?
You are already concerned?
Silly goose. 😆
zippykona - Member
That's Zombie Mayggots if you please.
As you know ZM are everywhere ... 😆
As I am struggling to grasp how people are making the link between the outcome of the GE and the appetite for a hard Brexit.
Ask Theresa May, she started it.
Once again, the chewkw is completely ignorant of how a representative democracy works, or indeed how the internal factions of the Conservative party work. It seems incapable of contributing anything to the discussion on the forum without resorting to trolling.
You are already concerned?
Only that care in the community doesn't seem to be working quite like it was intended.
PJM1974 - Member
Once again, the chewkw is completely ignorant of how a representative democracy works, or indeed how the internal factions of the Conservative party work. It seems incapable of contributing anything to the discussion on the forum without resorting to trolling.
Who is in govt? Who won the referendum? 😆
I am still crossing my fingers that a 'Hard Brexit' will be implemented.
Why? Do you have your own money tree or a couple of billion in the bank?
Taking back control referred to the Etonian/PPE elite ensuring us wage slaves are kept in our places. There was nothing being offered to the proletariat.
You blaming me? 😯convert - Member
You are already concerned?
Only that care in the community doesn't seem to be working quite like it was intended.
Who is in govt?
Nobody yet. Wait for the Queens speech vote, perhaps we need better education at the airports.
As I am struggling to grasp how people are making the link between the outcome of the GE and the appetite for a hard Brexit.
The Labour party don't want to have a bonfire of workers rights and protections, but the Conservatives do.
The Labour party want to retain access to the single market; the Conservatives couldn't care less about it.
The Scottish Conservatives also seem to be lukewarm about the idea of tossing the economy in the bin for the sake of your badly thought-out Brexit "plan".
Oh, and TM said she needed a strong mandate to negotiate a good deal. So a good deal is no longer an option, leaving only either a bad deal, or "no deal", which is just a bad deal by a different name. I guess there might be a few people left who still believe Theresa's vacuous slogans; I assume you're smart enough to not be one of them.
Surely sitting on a bus kicking people's seats while making a high pitched noise would be a better way for Chewk to piss people off.
As I am struggling to grasp how people are making the link between the outcome of the GE and the appetite for a hard Brexit.
The link was made by Theresa May when calling for an election.
Bigger majority => Hard Brexit.
She ended up with a smaller majority, too small to form a government.
Smaller majority => Softer Brexit.
[quote=flanagaj ]Because your an idiot?That's right @mikewsmith. Thick, stupid, ignorant, uneducated ....
U ok hun?
I'm hoping that Thatcher is still alive.
To answer the questions above:
1. Who's in government: the Tories and their climate change denying, homophobic mates who like to deny women the right to abortion.
2. Who won the referendum: Nobody. Everyone lost.
Edited as about 10 posts appeared whilst I was writing it.
U ok hun?
He might be a bit right wing but calling him a Hun? 😉
Who is in govt? Who won the referendum?
I'm beginning to grow very tired of this.
For the benefit of those who remain wilfully ignorant of how a representative democracy works, a minority government will struggle to get legislation passed, simple mental arithmetic will tell you that.
Go and read some newspapers to understand why the whole thing is up for discussion right now.
calm down calm down, without trolls this forum would just be a massive circle jerk . . . . and jamba 😕
flanagaj - Member
Because your an idiot?
That's right @mikewsmith. Thick, stupid, ignorant, uneducated
Well you couldn't read the rest of the post could you. Or present a decent argument or any reasons.
But go on...
As I am struggling to grasp how people are making the link between the outcome of the GE and the appetite for a hard Brexit.
The election was called in order to establish a stronger mandate for the governments approach to leaving the EU.
Neither the Tories nor Labour discussed leaving the EU in any detail, I assume that's because they both know there's nothing positive to say about it so it's best avoided as a campaign topic.
The population appear to be dissatisfied with the approach that the government is taking so the election ended up weakening the governments position.
In a way it worked exactly how intended. Government wants to know the view of the people, people spoke, now we need to see if the government's listening. So far it appears not but then they've painted themselves into a corner and have few options at least until after they've cut a deal with the DUC.
That's right @mikewsmith. Thick, stupid, ignorant, uneducated ....
Don't forget racist. Most of you are racist too. And old.
OP, convince us you're not a numpty. Can you give us a reasoned argument about why you want a Hard Brexit so much? What is it going to achieve?
What is it going to achieve?
A "communist" in no 10 and a marxist in no 11 at the current rate 😀
There's so much more to brexit than trade rules. How are we going to fly planes to europe? What happens to NI and the GFA? How do we run our nuclear power stations and manage medical isotopes? Some people might think the last item matters even if the rest doesn't. There's plenty more to think about when that's all dealt with, and note that no-one has presented any meaningful plans to deal with these few issues in the year since the brexit vote.
We've got 18 months to sort it all out, or more reasonably call the whole thing off.
A "communist" in no 10 and a marxist in no 11 at the current rate
Surely that is am IRA Terrorist in no 10 and a Marxist extremist in no 11.
We've got 18 months to sort it all out, or more reasonably call the whole thing off.
Or we have 18 months to pretend to sort it out and give enough time for even the most racist, idiotic, old brexiter to realise it is not a wise thing to do and call the whole thing off.
We can run checkpoints past the OP to see how it is going.
[quote="thecaptain"]We've got 18 months to sort it all out, or more reasonably call the whole thing off.Or fk it up. Which from where i'm sitting is looking the mostly likely outcome.
calm down calm down, without trolls this forum would just be a massive circle jerk
Whilst I accept that we all adopt an online persona, there's a gulf of difference between a lively discussion between people of differing point of view and the intellectual vacuum that we see popping up in every single thread, giving the benefit of opinion that's utterly devoid of thought. That's why 4chan exists.
