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If you didn't take drugs and shag a pig at uni what the hell were you doing?
As an aside, I guess it's true the Daily Mail could literally print articles calling a Tory prime minister out as a pig molester, and I still wouldn't even think of buying a copy.
Certainly one of his rasher decisions....
I bet Samantha bought a gallon of mouthwash today. 🙂
Whether he did it or not is irrelevant. What matters is most of us believe he would....
It's really going to make IS and other Muslim organisations respect him and the UK, isn't it? Will the Saudi Royals still shake his hands?
Richard Gere and David Cameron have never been seen in public together.[i]
It makes you think, doesn't it?[/i]
Apparently, tomorrows Mail was going to break the news of him being seen in a knackers yard with a whip.
But they thought that's just flogging a dead horse.
There's very obviously a power play going on here, but what's the motive?
Simple revenge?
Or replace him with a more Euro sceptic?
Could Boris be involved (he would have known of this)?
It's really going to make IS and other Muslim organisations respect him and the UK, isn't it?
Ham-ass?
Tomorrow's front pages are attacking Cameron on new fronts, including some Murdoch press turning on him. Ashcroft is being sarcastic on Twitter: https://twitter.com/LordAshcroft/status/645962182165962753
The look that says " I just S*at in a police car"
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Not sure if anyone else posted but a local conservative association is holding a piglet racing event to raise money 🙂
[url= http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/local-tory-group-cancels-pig-race-fundraiser-after-david-cameron-pig-allegations-10511095.html ]pinky linky[/url]
Most of the Tory press seems to be trying to play it all down
The hate mail is doing one of its character assassination as they did with Brown and Milliband and so many others
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They really are going for him now. Sounds like they're pushing for a quick resignation.
Is there a challenger, though?
The Daily Mail is a truly vile organ. Much as I dislike Cameron he doesn't compare to the awfulness that is The Mail.
They really are going for him now. Sounds like they're pushing for a quick resignation.
That's fantasy-land, frankly. Apart from the pig thing, there's nothing in any of this which either directly involves him or we didn't pretty much know anyhow.
An allegation that he (or any recent PM) had acted with a degree of competence in the Middle East would be a more surprising revelation.
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I think he will weather it out, unless they've got any real dirt on him, its really just damaging his legacy, being remembered as the PM that ****ed the pighead isn't the legacy hed have wanted.
I imagine that Gideon, Borris etc are hoping they are safe, which is just what the DM wants, the future PM, to be aware who can destroy their name.
Cameron is an ass, but the Mail shouldn't be able to get away with this stuff
There is an element of Karma though for ignoring the levenson reccomendations
[quote=epicyclo said]They really are going for him now. Sounds like they're pushing for a quick resignation.
Over what ?
That's fantasy-land, frankly. Apart from the pig thing, there's nothing in any of this which either directly involves him or we didn't pretty much know anyhow.
I hadn't known that Cameron was 'fully aware' of Ashcroft's tax status and had lied to parliament about that, if this is true of course. I'm surprised you knew.
It's amazing what a trustworthy, reliable witness Ashcroft suddenly becomes when he starts attacking a Conservative prime minister.
I've yet to hear anyone describe Ashcroft as a trustworthy reliable witness. I've heard him described as someone with a grudge though.
Have we had any confirmation whether he actually ****ed it yet? The details are important people.
Lolz
http://news.bfnn.co.uk/donald-trump-i-could-have-sex-with-a-bigger-more-impressive-dead-animal/
So when he claims Cameron was fully briefed on his tax status (and thereby must have lied to the house), is he to be trusted or not?
Always instantly dubious of allegations motivated by political revenge unless there is some other evidence to support them. I suppose some other folk may come out of the woodwork to confirm his allegations.
Apart from the pig thing, there's nothing in any of this which either directly involves him or we didn't pretty much know anyhow.
It's amazing what a trustworthy, reliable witness Ashcroft suddenly becomes when he starts attacking a Conservative prime minister.
The second part of your defense contradicts the first you realise?
epicyclo said » They really are going for him now. Sounds like they're pushing for a quick resignation.
Over what ?
There's no legal basis to get rid of him. But can you imagine the next PMQs or even the next G8 meeting? Everyone looking at him, imagining him with the pig.
It's pretty tricky to make the UK look even more ridiculous overseas, but he's managed it.
So when he claims Cameron was fully briefed on his tax status (and thereby must have lied to the house), is he to be trusted or not?
I don't know if he can be trusted, probably not. But as lemonysam points out you already suggested that he can be trusted by claiming that Ashcroft told us stuff we pretty much know anyhow.
I'll remind you that Ashcroft is still an adviser to this present Tory government, if he is untrustworthy and unreliable as you claim it's a rather damning criticism of this government.
I took martinmuchs comment about Ashcroft being reliable as sarcasm
I'm not sure I'd consider any politicuan to be trustworthy
Someone was asking about Ashcroft's motives earlier. [url= http://theleveller.org/2015/09/british-really-laughing/ ]This is a fairly succinct summary[/url]:
"Ashcroft’s goal is, according to the Mail, “revenge”. In the years leading up to Cameron taking office in 2010, the tax-dodging billionaire had donated over £8 million to the Conservative Party, bailing them out of debt after their disastrous election defeat in 2005. He had worked as Treasurer and later Deputy Chairman of the party, helping to manage them back to an electable public image under Cameron. Yet Ashcroft had expected that he would be given high office in exchange for this, and Cameron didn’t pay up when the time came. It now appears Ashcroft has spent the last five years compiling his new book, Call Me Dave, in which the pig story and other damning allegations about the Prime Minister are made."
... which is pretty shocking in itself.
There was a famous piano player on the radio not so long ago who plays lizard lounge music for the high and mighty at the davos meetings, no press no cameras I'm sure he was hinting at certain pm,s striping and tabletop nose hovering.
There rich,powerful and mostly untouchable by the law. Are we surprised?
As for the mail turning on Dave I can't wait for the coke and stripper story's to surface about his next door neighbor. It's a good job they are not on welfare handouts or channel 4 would be filming.
The second part of your defense contradicts the first you realise?
Not defending him. He's clearly an arsehole. Simply suggesting that the the sum total of Ashcroft's allegations do not amount to a resignation issue.
I am amused that Ashcroft is some tax-dodging, DEA-attracting antichrist when he's an ally of Cameron, but becomes a model of probity and reliability to some when he's attacking him.
How much of this stuff do we actually have secondary evidence to support? I'm a bit surprised that Isabel Oakeshott is so relaxed about it. I suppose it's a safish bet that no serving PM would get himself embroiled in a libel case involving his dick and a pig's head.
[i]But can you imagine the next PMQs or even the next G8 meeting?[/i]
I can't see other world leaders doign that sort of thing 😉
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I am amused that Ashcroft is some tax-dodging, DEA-attracting antichrist when he's an ally of Cameron, but becomes a model of probity and reliability to some when he's attacking him.
Go on then......how many people have been claiming that Ashcroft is "a model of probity and reliability" ?
The consensus appears to be that no one can be sure that it's true but they can imagine Cameron putting his knob in a dead pig's head.
And you could be equally [i]"amused"[/i] that Ashcroft was a highly respected adviser to the Tories but has now become someone who shouldn't even be "dignified" by commenting on his allegations.
It would be nice if Ashcroft and Cameron destroyed each other. A pair of vile human beings stabbing each other in the back over their greed and hunger for power. It would be even better if they brought down a few other cabinet members in the process as well.
The panto season is in full swing and we haven't even started on Europe yet!
Love the photo montage.
I'll remind you that Ashcroft is still an adviser to this present Tory government, if he is untrustworthy and unreliable as you claim it's a rather damning criticism of this government.
I don't think this is right - he turned done being a junior whip in the Lords in 2010 and went off to do his own independent polling and bought loads of specialist political websites like ConservativeHome and the Dods' ones. He is resigning from the Lords too now, or has done.
And you could be equally "amused" that Ashcroft was a highly respected adviser to the Tories but has now become someone who shouldn't even be "dignified" by commenting on his allegations.
Political expediency is always amusing.
Compare and contrast:
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2011/jul/08/tory-past-behaviour-tom-baldwin
Dismissed by Labour as a diversionary tactic to draw attention away from the Coulson scandal. Probably was, but there you go.
And in relation to this particular fandango, suddenly the words of Lord Ashcroft raise 'serious questions'.
Jonathan Ashworth MP, Labour’s shadow minister without portfolio, called on Cameron to clarify his knowledge of Ashcroft’s tax status and whether he had agreed with Ashcroft effectively to mislead the British public ahead of the 2010 election.He said: “Amidst the furore around Lord Ashcroft’s new book there lies a serious question mark over the consistency of the prime minister’s statements about the peer’s tax status.
As rene says, it's always nice to see the Conservative top brass taking chunks out of each other. I suppose it's the inevitable consequence of an emasculated opposition.
It's pretty tricky to make the UK look even more ridiculous overseas, but he's managed it.
I'm not sure the UK looks ridiculous overseas, at least it doesn't in Spain. The pig story hasn't done much for Cameron's personal image, though.
So if Dave had simply wrapped a nice piece of pork loin around his cock, would there be such outrage?
We should also remember that Cameron has said he won't serve a third term.
There's going to be a lot of people trying to influence who's the next Tory leader (and, possibly/probably PM).
Maybe trying to get Cameron to go sooner rather than later favours someone's chosen candidate?
So if Dave had simply wrapped a nice piece of pork loin around his cock, would there be such outrage?
Is the answer going to affect your evening plans?
He won't go. But perhaps there is a hope for a more eurosceptic flavour in the upcoming EU referendum debate, in which Cameron will strongly argue for staying in. Weaken him, weaken the pro-EU case.
That's the only tactical advantage for the book's release at this moment that I can see.
I don't think this is right - he turned done being a junior whip in the Lords in 2010 and went off to do his own independent polling and bought loads of specialist political websites like ConservativeHome and the Dods' ones. He is resigning from the Lords too now, or has done.
Well according to the Daily Telegraph Lord Ashcroft "could be dismissed as government adviser" which very strongly suggests that he has been a government adviser since 2010.
He resigned from the Lords last March.
Meanwhile, in other news, Samantha Cameron was seen in Boots yesterday buying a gallon of weapons-grade mouthwash.....