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Cam belt failed last night. How much for a rebuild?

Closest guess wins the holiday that we were driving to.

I'll open the bidding with £1,000.


 
Posted : 19/04/2019 11:09 am
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Depends on speed and revs of engine when it goes... sometimes you get lucky.
Other times its £1365


 
Posted : 19/04/2019 11:12 am
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Can we get a clue what we're bidding on? Going to be a hell of a difference between a nearly new car and a 10yo banger.


 
Posted : 19/04/2019 11:13 am
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£830 + VAT


 
Posted : 19/04/2019 11:13 am
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Dealer or independant price?


 
Posted : 19/04/2019 11:14 am
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1760+vat

(Write off)


 
Posted : 19/04/2019 11:14 am
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I'm going write off...


 
Posted : 19/04/2019 11:14 am
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assuming its some sort of VW/Skoda/Audi - about £4k


 
Posted : 19/04/2019 11:15 am
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What make of car? Not all engines are designed to destroy themselves when this happens.

My MX5 would be the price of a new belt and labour, although I have never needed to verify this.


 
Posted : 19/04/2019 11:17 am
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I had a belt go on a Rover 414. I sold the car for £150.

Shitter about the belt and your lost holibobs.
It's a savings raider job. I'll guess £1150 plus VAT.


 
Posted : 19/04/2019 11:17 am
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2010 1.8 tdi S-max?

I used to have one of those but punted it when it started making some strange noises.


 
Posted : 19/04/2019 11:17 am
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When I bought this current bangernomics stop gap get the daughter driving motor off a dealer mate I was given two options on price, one was with a new belt and waterpump the other was without. I took the with option.


 
Posted : 19/04/2019 11:17 am
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SMax 1.8 TDCi

Doing about 2200rpm when it went.

Has to be fixed. Can't afford a new one for a couple of years.

Independent garage.


 
Posted : 19/04/2019 11:18 am
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600 quid for a bare engine and head from a breaker

600 to swap the parts over and fit it

600 to diagnose why the ECU won't speak to the immobiliser.


 
Posted : 19/04/2019 11:30 am
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£750+vat

And a week before it’s in the garage.

What a shit time to go, hope you manage to salvage something out of the time you have with your family.

🥴🤒


 
Posted : 19/04/2019 11:33 am
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SMax 1.8 TDCi

Diesel (19+ to 1 compression ratio) - hence almost all valves will be destroyed. Valve seats, Valve guides and engine bores damaged potentially. Rebuild cost £2000 - £3000

Replacement engine - about the same.

OP; Good Luck


 
Posted : 19/04/2019 11:35 am
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Seems cruel to guess, because its going to be expensive. ☹️ Is the holiday really screwed? That'd be worse than the knackered car for me.


 
Posted : 19/04/2019 11:37 am
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HOliday? ditch the car back home and hire a car. Holidays are important


 
Posted : 19/04/2019 11:46 am
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Hire car ? Travel insurance ?


 
Posted : 19/04/2019 11:46 am
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It was a long weekend away on the south coast staying with friends. Have already rescheduled.

RAC didn't cover themselves in glory. Over an hour on hold and 5 hours stood by the side of the motorway with the family. Topography was such that we couldn't escape anywhere.


 
Posted : 19/04/2019 11:51 am
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If it's an interference engine then it's probably going to cost a lot 😕
Sorry to hear about your holiday.

Our old XC90 decided to dump a load of oil out of the core plug 3 days before driving 3 hours to the airport for a big holiday. Lucky escape as if it had gone on the way there we'd have lost the holiday.

Sold the car after that and now warranty the replacement every year. Costs me £1k/year but covers everything plus a replacement car.


 
Posted : 19/04/2019 11:53 am
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Ooof, I'm going to or for £1801, just to be different to TR.

But it depends on how cheap the garage are going to be on parts, and how badly smashed the engine is.

When I did this to a renault megane, we decided that the dented pistons would be "fine" and just stuffed a recon top end on. Then ignored the new knock from the bottom end. For another 30k miles before it got traded in.


 
Posted : 19/04/2019 11:54 am
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...aslo I had two new tyres on it (fitted yesterday, done 80 miles) and had just replaced the pads and discs to get it through the MOT on Tuesday, so it had already cost me £350 this week.


 
Posted : 19/04/2019 12:01 pm
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If it’s an interference engine then it’s probably going to cost a lot 😕

Fortunantly for fuel economy.and emmisions it's not the 1990s any more.

Ohc and variable valve timing are common place with multiple things wishing to occupy the combustion chamber at the same time to minimise dead space.


 
Posted : 19/04/2019 12:02 pm
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Set of valves guides and followers. Head set skim cam belt kit with out knowing Labour rates 1345 plus vat


 
Posted : 19/04/2019 12:24 pm
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1789


 
Posted : 19/04/2019 12:32 pm
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2.5k


 
Posted : 19/04/2019 12:36 pm
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Was belt overdue replacement?


 
Posted : 19/04/2019 12:55 pm
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Engine from breakers costing a fortune anyway. Followed a few months later by "turbo failed: nearest the bull quiz time" when the oil lines in the replacement engine turn out to be full of crap.


 
Posted : 19/04/2019 1:09 pm
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I think this will be painful. A friend had this on landrover and it was a full set of valves.

£2000 assuming you can use the old head

My sympathies.


 
Posted : 19/04/2019 1:40 pm
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I had an old Vauxall 1.9 cdti and it had rockers which were designed to break to prevent an engine rebuild being necessary I think. Not sure how well they'd work tho. Same engine also used in Fiat, ALfas and Saab amongst others i think.


 
Posted : 19/04/2019 2:52 pm
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Additional info... When it went we heard the belt strip its teeth, but there was no metal-to-metal sound from the engine. Note sure if this is significant.


 
Posted : 19/04/2019 3:07 pm
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May mean the valves are ok. Had an old Corsa diesel where the garage replaced the cam belt. Snapped within a week and could hear the valves hitting the pistons. Fortunately the garage replaced it all, no problems.


 
Posted : 19/04/2019 3:24 pm
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That is a complete shitter, sorry HTS! I going for £1500 inc VAT.

Been in similar scenarios myself driving through Switzerland en route to Bordeaux in boiling hot summer, when the car (bangernomics 9-5 estate) developed a major coolant leak, then basically everything major decided to shit itself at the same time (the brain, the turbo, exhaust, the ****ing air con). 3 kids under 6 and stressed wife.

That was fun. Not.

Feel. Your. Pain.


 
Posted : 19/04/2019 4:00 pm
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North of £2500 I suspect, maybe a child's kidney?


 
Posted : 19/04/2019 4:53 pm
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Just found a rather smart Galaxy locally for £12,600. Wife says no. As it stands the Smax is worthless. Fix it and it will be worth more than the cost of the repair.

It has to be fixed. Bugger, I did like this Galaxy.


 
Posted : 19/04/2019 5:49 pm
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Fix the S-Max and trade it against the Galaxy.

Galaxy £12.6k. Say S-max costs £2.5k to repair, but is worth £6k trade in. You’d only be into the Galaxy for £9k not £12.6k


 
Posted : 19/04/2019 6:00 pm
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If the car Tdci is anything like the van Tdci then the valves & pistons will be okay but it will have damaged the cam carrier which IIRC is line bored with the head so it's still expensive. I reckon just under £2k if new parts otherwise few hundred for used cam carrier fitted and get rid pdq


 
Posted : 19/04/2019 6:30 pm
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Realistically, recon head plus labour and sundries £1800? Worst case, a valve damaged a piston/bore. Recon engine time.


 
Posted : 19/04/2019 6:31 pm
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4k +


 
Posted : 19/04/2019 6:54 pm
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No new bike this year then...


 
Posted : 19/04/2019 6:56 pm
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Bike#1 has to last 6 more years. Car 2 years.

Part of teh 10 year plan.


 
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If that's the same 1.8 tdci as the Mondeo? and others had it was definitely an interference engine at least until 2012 ish.

So £1000 to replace belt. £400 to check for damage to pistons valves, guides etc. More than the car is worth to repair if any of those are damaged

As an aside, according to dayco, a lot repair shops are unaware of the existence of 2 can belt systems on the lynx engines


 
Posted : 19/04/2019 7:48 pm
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£2340


 
Posted : 19/04/2019 8:26 pm
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£1000 to change a cam belt? Wow, is it an engine out job? I’ve never been unfortunate enough to work on the car in question.


 
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