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Does it look like there's going to be a separate footway? They can't be expecting people to play chicken with the traffic on the flyover, surely..
There are already separate footways both sides. I use them regularly.
they're taking space away from walking and cycling routes.
Where exactly are they doing this? I only glanced at the plans some time ago but the impression I got was that there would be more space for walking and cycling once the project was finished.
The whole route is supposed to have a cyclepath/footpath alongside stretching way out past Long Ashton to the A38 somewhere isn't it? Plus 2 other bits I remember as a benefit to cyclists/pedestrians were the opening up of the route along the old docks railway under the bridge that comes out onto Avon Crescent and a new section of path by the Louisiana to link Cumberland Road with Commercial Road.
Also Ashton Bridge might actually be better for cyclists afterwards. The Butterfly Junction end at the moment is already stuffed full of traffic both parked and moving during office hours. Maybe it'll be a bit clearer with a just a few buses an hour instead.
Umm, buses every five minutes apparently over Ashton Avenue Bridge.
My personal issue is the Ashton Avenue Bridge area. Getting away from the traffic with children is difficult in Bristol in my area. It was nice that once I'd gotten to Greville Smyth Park I could cycle with my two kids (both on bikes) all the way from there into the harbour side with only one small entrance to a set of flats to worry about. It is nice, it's pleasant. When the buses come that area will not be so nice. It will not be so pleasant.
Now, again personally, I could accept that if it was going to bring an big improvement in the local public transport. But, as stated above, it doesn't. And what it does bring is a large cost to Bristol at a time when money is really tight and other services are being cut to fund this as money is finite.
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Where does the bus every 5 minutes figure come from?
In [url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-33420106 ]this BBC link[/url] they're talking about reducing it from 5 an hour to 3 an hour. The current Long Ashton Park and ride service is only 1 an hour.
[Edit:... umm, ok, maybe more than 1 an hour, not sure what page I was looking at there]
In this BBC link they're talking about reducing it from 5 an hour to 3 an hour. The current Long Ashton Park and ride service is only 1 an hour.[Edit:... umm, ok, maybe more than 1 an hour, not sure what page I was looking at there]
Yes, it's a project to bring a small improvement to an existing service.
That's been their line all along, but for most of the route, I can't see how they can physically create more space for walking and cycling.
The Chocolate Path is still going to be the only cycling provision along Cumberland Road, and while I appreciate being able to use it, it's a pretty shoddy cycle facility, what with its lumpy surface and narrow corridor.
The route seems to be replacing part of the Festival Way, between Ashton Avenue Bridge and the Brunel Way flyover. There's a bus stop planned for Butterfly Junction, which will create more disruption.
I don't think the problems associated with the Create Centre car park will go away either, given that the route turns off up Cumblerland Road before there.
The contract, seen by BBC Radio Bristol's Chris Brierley also suggests fares could be up to £7 a day
**** my hat. This really does have White Elephant written all over it.
I'm all sad again now 🙁
What's the deal with the ramp being constructed from the grass by the pump track up to the flyover?
Please do not tell me there's going to be a diversion over the flyover? 😥
This whole thing is absolutely ridonculous.
Please do not tell me there's going to be a diversion over the flyover?
Yup - the Ashton Avenue Bridge is now closed. 😐
Please do not tell me there's going to be a diversion over the flyover?
There's a diversion over the flyover. It's not too bad actually as it's been segregated, but it takes you onto the ramp by Create centre, along a contraflow that was previously one way. So now you have cyclists approaching down the junction from a direction motorists would not expect - it's an accident waiting to happen IMO. Be careful out there folks.
it's an accident waiting to happen IMO
Aye, it's dodgy - already had some nasty moments... 😕
Holy thread resurrection!
Anyone else get wet feet this morning? Apparently, the new flood defences for the metrobus route along Cumberland Rd mean that the spring tide water has nowhere to go, so it now sits on the chocolate path. Brilliant.
Anyone else get wet feet this morning?
I'm not on 'ere so much at the moment due to being busy with work n' ting, but I can't say I'm surprised by this - in the event of a combined heavy rainfall/spring tide flood event, it's probably worth ditching the bike for a kayak...
In other news: what a well-planned & joined-up project it's turning out to be... (with Bristol liable for the overspend, of course)
[url= http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/New-MetroBus-bridge-increased-height-cost-1m/story-29310704-detail/story.html ]MetroBus to spend £2 million after realising bridge near Ashton Gate would be too low.[/url]