eddiebaby
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Will we be able to get rid of the foreign St George bit on the flag and come up with a proper symbol for England?
Time to re-instate St. Edmund!
The only benefit I’ve thought of is the bucket & spade British seaside few days away from t’mill, as foreign holiday firms collapse.
HTHs.
No-one will be able to afford a holiday, and your time away from the coalface of the office or cash in hand decorators will be 16hr days.
You have the Conservative “government” to blame for all this depression and utter mess.
Well done to those that voted Brexit and Contards.
See you at the jobcenter.
we won't have those faceless bureaucrats at the €U telling us what size motors we can have in our vacuum cleaners!
No, but like everything else, we'll make it to comply with the eu market because with no value left in the pound, we'll have to export to neighbouring markets.
From my experience leavers are most concerned with making foreigners disappear
Two friends I have who voted leave recently tried (independent of each other) to convince me about how bad all the foreigners were.
One of them even thought that once Brexit happened the government would go around the country rounding up all the foreigners, then send them back to where they came from.
With the poor old Queen repeatedly getting dragged into things.
I was wondering, is she Leave/Remain??!
She's supposed to be impartial but I think it's fairly obvious.
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forzafkawi
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The benefit for me is when the remoaners finally STFU but I don’t see that happening any time soon.
I for one plan at least a decade of saying "I told you so" and "This is all your fault". You'll have plenty of time to get used to it.
chewkw
Member
Eh? Raw about what? Anarchy? Bureaucracy? Democracy? 😀
Milk
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Can’t type?
One of them even thought that once Brexit happened the government would go around the country rounding up all the foreigners, then send them back to where they came from.
I'm pretty sure that's exactly what Priti Patel has in mind given half a chance. Theresa May's 'Go Home' vans were a sort of trial run for it, the end result will be like the child catcher from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang on steroids. Or maybe on acid. Whatever we can still import efficiently.
From my experience leavers are most concerned with making foreigners disappear
That was Theresa's take on it too. Hence her 'red lines' and the resulting shift towards a hard Brexit.
There's an irony here though that the Remain campaign was relentlessly focussed on the negatives of leaving, 'Project Fear' if you like, rather than the positives, you know, minor stuff like having avoided continent-wide military conflict since 1945.
Not many ‘vote leave’ voices on this thread
Hardly surprising is it , as it will take all of 5 seconds from posting to be labelled a racist gammon.
Being intersted in and supportive of the anarchist principles of greater freedom, more equality, less hierarchy, accountable ‘authority’, and more effective democracy does not translate into wanting ‘anarchy’.
Why on God's green earth would anarchy mean more equality? The more 'freedoms' people have the more the powerful take advantage of the weak and inequality increases. See USA for examples.
Leave are pissed off because they’ve felt for years that their concerns have been ignored.
I suspect they will continue to be ignored after Brexit. Even more so, because our country will become more right-wing, and ignoring the concerns of the disadvantaged is what right wingers do. But a lot of people don't know that so they somehow vote Tory.
Hardly surprising is it , as it will take all of 5 seconds from posting to be labelled a racist gammon.
Could it just be that there is no good stuff?
As I said above, the blue passports may look alright.
Rest assured someone is going to get rich off Brexit but I'd wager it won't be most of the 52% and we'll see a dismantling of some of the legislation that was driven by the EU and which we as a nation put into effect to protect the least well off parts of our population.
There’s an irony here though that the Remain campaign was relentlessly focussed on the negatives of leaving, ‘Project Fear’ if you like, rather than the positives, you know, minor stuff like having avoided continent-wide military conflict since 1945.
Not true though, is it. When the positives were talked about, the devious shites that are now in government still painted it as project fear. When the exact point you make was raised, Johnson, the chief deceiver, turned it into a “World War III if we vote Leave” strawman, very successfully.
Someone has said it previously on this thread, but that is the main reason that the current power holders will win. Everything, literally everything, that you can say against leaving, can be countered by either talking loudly and pretending not to listen, by mistruths or by saying ‘project fear’.
It would be possible to present incontrovertible fact in a public arena and it would still be dismissed and turned about by one of the three above. Trump does pretty much exactly the same thing. The truth simply does not matter any more, it is all just what message you can sell.
Certainly I remember news print transferring onto fish and chips as a child and I’m not that old.
I remember eating fish & chips directly off some Page 3 boobs in the 80’s.
It’s a disgrace that you can’t do that today !
I suspect they will continue to be ignored after Brexit. Even more so, because our country will become more right-wing, and ignoring the concerns of the disadvantaged is what right wingers do. But a lot of people don’t know that so they somehow vote Tory.
They don't know it because they have been fooled for the last 40 years into thinking Tory government, Brexit etc,. is good for them. They don't have the initiative or intelligence to question it, research it, discuss with others etc,. This has been used to the Tories advantage and they are doing it more and more.
Not really sure what is going to stop it as when it gets even worse for them they will just be told more Tory lies.
Not many ‘vote leave’ voices on this thread
You're welcome to visit my head office anytime you like - my boss reconned that apple moving to battersea was a brexit bonus and quite literally thumped his chest as he said made in Britain for Britain, we are based nr Mansfield...
Does the "tearing up of the traditional BIG 2 political parties with the (hopefully) emergence of a new type of politics in the UK", count as a Brexit benefit? Let's hope so. Something good has to come out of this shitstorm.
We'll be able to mark the products my company make with the new UKCA mark, instead of CE. We'll still need CE in Europe, and no-one knows what standards we'll need for UKCA, but I would be very surprised if they're not the same as the current EU Directives, re-written with a blue cover.
So we'll have to find space for an extra mark, which will mean the same as the other one.
Does the “tearing up of the traditional BIG 2 political parties with the (hopefully) emergence of a new type of politics in the UK”, count as a Brexit benefit?
it would do but I expect after Brexit is done (in regards to this bit and the fact most people will consider it done) it will be back to 2 party as Brexit will no longer be a dividing issue.
Its not been 2 party for a decade - since the SNP started winning serious numbers of seats.
I remember eating fish & chips directly off some Page 3 boobs in the 80’s.
So you're telling me in the process of handling your cod piece you got your batter all over a page three girl?
Its not been 2 party for a decade – since the SNP started winning serious numbers of seats
Sorry to rain on your parade but they are an irrelevance until they stand (and win) in enough seats to threaten the main two, so long as they only stand in Scotland they will never actually matter in Westminster even if they won every seat they put forward a candidate for. (unless the current two party monopoly collapses and they're able to form a meaningful part of a coalition government)
Sorry to rain on your parade but they are an irrelevance
Agree. They are similar to Lib Dems in their prime - was still really a 2 party system even then.
You’re welcome to visit my head office anytime you like – my boss reconned that apple moving to battersea was a brexit bonus and quite literally thumped his chest as he said made in Britain for Britain, we are based nr Mansfield…
PMSL! Don't tell Foxconn, nvidia or Intel or Toshiba or Hitachi or Panasonic or Samsung who all supply parts for macs... Made in Britain? ROFL!
Hardly surprising is it , as it will take all of 5 seconds from posting to be labelled a racist gammon.
There's a few still going on this thread, which dwarfs the STW thread, it got so big it broke their forum so they had to lock the original and start a new one.
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/brexit-discussion-the-new-thread.18864476/page-127
But the brexiters on there have the same old debunked arguments, who get repeatedly debunked so they go quiet for a bit and then resurface spouting the same arguments only to get debunked again. Other than that it descends into petty straw men and whataboutery... There's no fresh revelations, for obvious reasons.
Sobriety sed> But it feels somewhat pyrrhic.
Oi! Less of that Greek non-sense in our green and pleasant thankyouverymuch-a.
50 snp seats is a significant amount. But then - just keep on patronising scotland telling us we don't matter
I think you will find the SNP having a much greater say in Westminster after the next election than the lib dems.
Scotland is actually a 5 party setup nowadays - but then we have 21st century electoral systems not 18th
just keep on patronising scotland telling us we don’t matter
It's really not that.
I was talking to an agronomist today who said that they'd had one layer of protocol added by supermarkets telling farmers how to produce crops, then a further layer added by the eu so his area is somewhat stifled by red tape. He reckoned that leaving the eu would enable us to produce crops using methods the eu won't allow and thereby "catch up" with the USA and oz. Seemed genuine, so can include "we'll be able to produce crops that are illegal to sell to our nearest neighbours" as a positive alongside chips and newspaper.
PMSL! Don’t tell Foxconn, nvidia or Intel or Toshiba or Hitachi or Panasonic or Samsung who all supply parts for macs… Made in Britain? ROFL!
You miss understand me, he told me Apple were relocating 7 European offices to the battersea power station site - where our company had done quite a bit of work - ie the made in Britain stuff, turns out the "European" offices were all London offices already anyway 🙄
GM crops with neonicotinoids?
GM crops with neonicotinoids?
Tomacco?
I'm waiting to see how much trump will offer us for scotland, or what all this fuss about chlorinated chicken is.
Perhaps, with the way things are going now, once outed as a remainer, the threat to life will be so great that we might be eligible for political asylum in the EU.