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How is this conversation going on a more right wing, Brexity forum, like say Pistonheads?
the Brexit - was it worth it? thread is currently about half way through Vol. 4.
I suggested the "brexit benefit" thing of since brits love queuing - having 27 new countries to queue in while waiting for passport to be stamped i got in response "I didnt have to queue when I went to Lanzarote"
The immigration thing is particularly amusing.. Assuming that was a big part of the appeal of brexit in the first place. .. Numbers have actually risen..
If only someone could have foreseen... oh, yeah.
Hope everyone who voted to leave starves, can’t heat their house and has to wait 2 years for NHS treatment.
Thing is, everyone is now in the same sinking shop and you'll all freeze and starve together.
the Brexit – was it worth it? thread is currently about half way through Vol. 4.
Is this satire or a real thing?
02.05. episode of The Newsagents isn't one you want to listen to if you suffer from high blood pressure....
The rest of the world has been given a practical demonstration on how “we were OK before we went in” applies when you’ve got a cake and want to take the eggs back out. I hope Scotland is listening.
I guarantee that STW's SNP apologists aren't.
Seeing someone mention the legal side of immigration above...
I had the misfortune to hear that non-entity Toady Purglove's statement on immigration yesterday.
Everything he boasted about 'achieving' with regards to legal immigration had me thinking "that's actually a bad thing for a decent progressive country".
It is depressing what we've become.
The immigration thing is particularly amusing.. Assuming that was a big part of the appeal of brexit in the first place. .. Numbers have actually risen.. And the costs of dealing with with it have risen several magnitudes higher than that.
And the bulk of legal immigrants are no longer white people who look quite like most native Brits. Can't imagine many brexies being happy with that.
On a side note, I'd like to seed the use of a less grand sounding term than "Brexiteer". I propose "brexie". And Nigel Farage shall from now on be pronounced "Farridge".
I guarantee that STW’s SNP apologists aren’t.
I'm sure there are some SNP supporters on here but they aren't very vocal.
Oh, you're doing that thing where you deliberately conflate the SNP government with the independence movement because it's always easier to win a straw man argument.
Sorry, carry on. I won't do anything like call you a Tory-apologist because it doesn't really add anything to the debate and is just cheap point scoring.
I often indulge a fantasy of mine where we live in this country and all of the benefits 🤣 and costs 🙄 of Brexit applied only to those who wanted this shitshow
somewhere, in a shed in, probably Northamptonshire, are a few shipping containers full of ballot papers. It wouldn’t be beyond the wit of man to crack them open, cross reference the ballot number with the poll card and work out exactly who did vote for this shitshow. You could then assign the appropriate people a special tax code to recover the resulting losses.
[UKIP have (mostly) gone.]
You say that, but it's the old Tory party that is gone. Today's Tory party is what UKIP was. Reform is the new UKIP
[We just need Farage to get on more light aircraft.]
If only....I like to think that was a plot by a couple of right thinking MI5 agents......the UK would be in a much better place today without Farage. (and i wonder if Putin would'nt have had the nerve to push the envelope without Brexit)
New to this thread and don't really want to read 22 pages of posts
Can someone summarize it into a nice list of benefits for us lazy folk
Here you go Stevie750:
- SFA
Not true. I bought some Carbon DT Swiss wheels with a 16% discount back in the post Brexit postal confusion.
Having said which, they deteriorated sharply and they refused to honour the warranty so even that minor win didn't really turn out that well.
It’s definitely the maddest thing, it’s just a 9 mile gap between the U.K. and France, why would you want to make life hard to trade over a large market that close :-(.
Here you go Stevie750:
SFA
TBH they did zero tax sanitary products and you’ll be able to buy wine in pint bottles or stuff made from the leftovers.
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you’ll be able to buy wine in pint bottles
I mean.. Just why? Everyone knows what size the current standard bottle of wine is...
Why would any 'winery' essentially re-tool thier production line just for UK to make a different sized bottle? Total madness.
I mean they could, but there's no reason for them not to charge more for pint bottles and pass that cost directly to the customer.
That's exactly what I would do if I was a wine company... Or I just wouldn't bother at all... And simply say you can have it in 5l boxes, 70cl bottles or maybe magnums if you want a really big bottle.
I think I know where they might be.
Next to the Iraq weapons of mass destruction in some disguised warehouse somewhere.
If you couldn’t define what the EU was/is you shouldn’t have been allowed to vote. Airport should have two queues, one for Brexit voters one for remain voters! Never mind the roaming charges!
Yep - still no advantages, and I think there is a lot more pain to come.
100% on the winemakers.
If I was a winemaker in France I would be working out exactly what the 'retooling' had cost, plus any more on-costs and passing that straight on to idiots who want to buy wine in pints.
If that meant sales dropped below an acceptable level, then I'd just not bother.
Wine in pint bottle is just nostalgiaw4nk isn’t it
Tbh I don’t think I can ever remember any trips to the pub where the lads have ordered a round of wine :-).
Thinking about it can you even get beer in a pint size can/bottle, although I’ve never found anyone that worried about the size of their beer cans.(It’s more whether it’s cold or not.)
I’d say that wine became a thing once we’d joined the eu for the common man, I’m pretty sure my grandparents weren’t quaffing back a cheeky Pinot gris back in the day.
I mean.. Just why? Everyone knows what size the current standard bottle of wine is…
EU regulations already accommodate 500ml bottles. Thanks to brexit we can now sell 568ml bottles as well. Bottles which don't and probably will never exist for wine.
Unless of course Dominar Nigel the 16th starts up Chateau Du Brexit, which is unlikely as it sounds a bit forrin, but he's a career grifter so I wouldn't put it past him.
Thinking about it can you even get beer in a pint size can/bottle
Yes.
Thinking about it can you even get beer in a pint size can/bottle
You've been able to get Stella and Fosters in pint cans for years. Think Newcastle Brown is a pint bottle
I would buy 500ml bottles of wine tbh, always seem to struggle to get through a 750ml these days
Er, I mean 568ml, of course
Why would any ‘winery’ essentially re-tool thier production line just for UK to make a different sized bottle?
They won't but UK bottling plants can import the cheapest, roughest wine and put it in the smaller bottles and charge more for rubbish. Also makes a mockery of our drive to Net Zero more weight of glass to be moved around the country for the same volume of wine as currently.
Half price chocolate hob nobs in coles
OMG, I have just tried to reclaim £700 of VAT and customs duty incorrectly charged on an import. You fill in a form on the HMRC website and... POST it to HMRC. What the actual?? Who in their right mind designs these things? Non-tariff trade barrier loving morons. '**** business' Boris said. Obviously as an imperative.
"We've always done it this way."
I would buy 500ml bottles of wine tbh, always seem to struggle to get through a 750ml these days
Lightweight.
I’m enjoying a schadenfreude situation. We have one mate who voted for this shambles. Up to now he’s been quite muted, until that is he’s tried to buy something large from the eu.
It amazing how irked he became when he was informed by the seller that he might have to pay import duty, would have to pay VAT and a service charge imposed by the courier. Then when we pointed out that it wasn’t the invoice amount that determined the level of duty but the price of the first search result in the UK for a similar item he became livid.
TBH given that one of the biggest draws to Brexit was giving extra money to the NHS I’m surprised that more unhappiness isn’t occurring around the state of it.
When Jack swapped his cow for magic beans at least he got a result.
I’m not sure what type of fairy tale Brexit is turning into.
but the price of the first search result in the UK for a similar item he became livid.
Genuine question, is that really what customs do? Just Google a similar item rather than check invoice amount?
Thanks!
If they expect an artificially low declared value, they must do some kind of comparison with real world values. How would you go about that without using a tool like Google? Normally though, the value declared would be used for the basis of both VAT & duty calcs.
^^ Cheers for the clarification. I thought he meant that's what they did by default, rather than only if they think there is some skulduggery going on.
So you scour the internet for the best price, negotiate hard and get a great price just for HMRC to say - Should have bought it from Boris.com and twice the price so we will tax you as if you did. Great. I wonder if they use the same approach when reviewing Self Assessments?
If you've sourced at half price, you'll be fine. £1K+ items regularly coming through with sub £135 costs declared have to be dealt with somehow.
Oooooooooh, oooooooooooohhh, I've got a benefit!!!
Another whining muppet on one of the immigrants in sweden pages has (finally) been banned from reentering the country after spending years and years saying he doesn't have to fill in all the forms that that migration people said he had to fill in after brexit.
Went home at easter, wasn't allowed back in. Not allowed back in for a number of years now.
That's the third or fourth to fall.
All the more amusing as they seemed to spend an inordinate amount of time whining about how bad Sweden was/is and how the UK would be much better. Until they can't get back in.
TBH given that one of the biggest draws to Brexit was giving extra money to the NHS I’m surprised that more unhappiness isn’t occurring around the state of it.
You underestimate - or rather perhaps, overestimate - the brexit brain.
The Great Bus Lie was one of the first to fall, it was literally the morning after the referendumb when Garage (IIRC) was on TV admitting that it wasn't true. Then the brexit brains quickly rallied, the bus didn't read "we'll send the money to the NHS," it said "let's give it to the NHS". There were no promises made, it was just a suggestion, the brexies knew this all along of course and how could the rest of us been so stupid?
You've got to hand it to them really, for all their faults they're slipperier than a greased otter. Wearing slippers. We think we're the smart ones but Leave.EU outmanoeuvred us at every turn.