Rentier it is, this is not new in the UK its been the case since William the Conqueror turned up.
The UK investment structure is all about property and land. It is not about investing in people or ideas.
How about suspending market trading for a brief time or certainly banning some of the the more dubious practices. Discuss.
Not going to happen. For obvious reasons. Discussion over.
Another Brexit dividend – no fish.
No problem, the Brexies' sovrunty is so tangible we will be able to cover it in batter and have it with chips.
Either that or a blue passport deep-fried.
Another Brexit dividend – no fish.
No flights out of here either.
No flights out of here either.
I might ask if I can reuse one of the confiscated migrant dinghies that the gammons get all hot and bothered about and make a dash for the promised land of France with the family in tow....
Another Brexit dividend – no fish.
I wouldn't worry about that. After Brexit whilst "we'll" control our fishing grounds, we won't have a market to sell into so the economics will take care of that as fishermen and women go bust...
If I’ve learned anything in 35 years in business, it’s that having a rational, fact-based argument that you present carefully and clearly is of absolutely no use at all in changing people’s minds. I’ve almost never seen it work. Unfortunately, I’ve also never been able to identify what it is that does actually achieve the change – it’s just that sometimes it happens. Which is all a bit dispiriting, really.
My pennyworth from the same length of time working (at a senior including global C-Level) is that the only way stuff happens in companies is senior folk in the business deciding it's the "answer".
The "Letter from Hitler/CEO/FD" etc is key. And the only way the path changes, is if the person changes.
Face it, Brexit is currently the way that the strategy is occurring. As I said previously, "Brexit isn't the destination, it's the vehicle".
If you're not loaded, you're stuffed.
Well, today is Johnson’s deadline day… was he bluffing?
Of course he was. He is trying to play brinksmanship - only he is against experts!
I wouldn't like to say - previous form would suggest a climbdown, but I think the likelyhood of that hangs on whether he can spin it as a victory to the brexit faithfull.
I'm not sure how he can spin that, so maybe he will go for a no deal to save face, also likely.
Remember, it's not whats best for the country, it's what's best for Boris.
They've already taken bulldozers to big swathes of the 'Garden of England'. I don't think it is a bluff (tragically).
Remember, it’s not whats best for the country, it’s what’s best for Boris.
And that will be his political epitaph, cold comfort that it is to us ordinary folk. He won't care much. He will have a massive stack of cash to console himself with.
They’ve already taken bulldozers to big swathes of the ‘Garden of England’.
That's pretty much all they've done though.
Five Live this morning were interviewing various business owners about Brexit. One was a cheese producer who exported to the EU. She said that they've been constantly asking DEFRA about their food labelling and how the legal requirements will change once the UK becomes a 'third country'. They know the labelling will need to change to carry on exporting to the EU. They simply cannot get an answer. Nobody knows. And this seems typical across the board.
So this means one of two things
a) It's all a bluff. Nobody is taking it seriously as they know that at the eleventh hour Boris will fold, sign a trade deal then try and spin it as a victory
b) We're sleepwalking into no deal with a government that are blind, or in denial or just uncaring as to the reality of no deal and the economic carnage it would create
Unfortunately, I know which one of those presently looks more likely
All the preparations done so far are for the hard brexit they say is the maximum they will accept. NO deal causes even more issues such as ( as Shapps confirmned) flights grounded and so on.
The game now is to try to pin the blame on the EU - its working but only to some extent as the EU folk can see "trap" in huge lettering over this so no matter the deliberate provocation the EU will not walk away leaving Johnson and co to walk away and thus publicly accepot the blame or keep on negotiating but with no movement.
I just ordered a years' worth) of firewood from our usual supplier, it's kiln dried (don't ask, just accept) and comes from Latvia.
She mentioned that we were a bit early this year, I agreed and said we'd at least 3 months supply but I was concerned about any Brexit issues.
She admitted that at the moment they've no idea of what the impacts on them are going to be.
Irrelevant of whether they should know, what a sad state of affairs.
I just ordered a years’ worth) of firewood from our usual supplier, it’s kiln dried (don’t ask, just accept) and comes from Latvia.
You could always burn baby polar bears if you can't get anymore.
You could always burn baby polar bears if you can’t get anymore.
One of the advantages of Brexit is that we get to set our own tariffs on the import of baby polar bears for fuel.
We'll of course demand that tariffs on jam are dropped in exchange.
#letsgoWTO
Poor old Boris is disappointed by trade talks. It must have come as such a shock to him.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54543956
The very embodiment of going through the motions.
He added that as well as fishing rights, "key issues" for a deal included post-Brexit rules on competition and how a deal would be enforced.
I imagine Johnsons action this year have bumped "how a deal would be enforced" to the top of list of concerns for everyone looking to sign a deal with the UK within the next five years, not just the EU negotiators.
However badly the WU talks go, does anyone think the talks with anyother major power will go any better. The UK is a medium sized country and if it wants a deal with major powers it will have to accept what they want to a large extent.
Did anyone ever read about the truck route in Africa (I think) where drivers used to pay prostitutes in sugar stolen from the back of the truck? When the transport company cracked down on the practice it caused the local economy to collapse. The prostitutes were selling the sugar on to bakers, who would bake goods to sell to vendors, who would sell at local stalls. Removing the sugar broke this value chain.
#BrexitOpportunities
https://twitter.com/KentishExpress/status/1316393331522379777
"councillors warn this is not a chance for remainers to have a go" So pointing out actions have consequences isn't allowed.
I agree with the councillors, it's in fact time for a good old public lynching, of them
The councillor involved is a brexit supporter so hardly a considered opinion from a balanced individual.
Pesky remainers. They spoil everything.
Hopefully the people who voted for the councillor will simply hold him to account.
Clearly whoever owns those fields will have made a few bob... Brexit dividend at work 😆
Here we go
https://twitter.com/DavidGHFrost/status/1316785715943014400?s=20
some of the comments are unbelievable - "deliver a no deal you will be a national hero"!!!
Boris Johnson is facing the momentous decision of whether to walk out on Brexit trade talks, after the EU offered to extend them beyond the prime minister’s deadline to the end of October.
Chief negotiator Michel Barnier told reporters in Brussels that he had proposed a two-week extension to negotiations, offering to work through the weekend if necessary to get an agreement.
“I can confirm that we’re available, we shall remain available until the last possible day,” he said, after a meeting of EU leaders in the Belgian capital to discuss the issue.
So what is our fat scrotum of a PM going to do? throw his own peple under the brexit bus?
He will continue to pretend to negotiate but refuse to make any of the compromises that the EU deem essential. same as he has done for months.
Ha ha. You also just know that lorry park will be badly designed by some overpaid consultant tw*t and will have some ridiculous bottleneck so the lorries that actually get clearance to enter the new nation state of Kent won't be able to get out!
Brexit. What an utter fail from start to finish.
Ha ha. You also just know that lorry park will be badly designed by some overpaid consultant tw*t and will have some ridiculous bottleneck so the lorries that actually get clearance to enter the new nation state of Kent won’t be able to get out!
It'll be over budget, and late, as always.
Anyone know when the grown ups are arriving?
What they’ve forgot to factor in when building that lorry park is the access road which passes under a low height railway bridge*
* Not actually true but it wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest
dannyh
Full MemberHa ha. You also just know that lorry park will be badly designed by some overpaid consultant tw*t and will have some ridiculous bottleneck so the lorries that actually get clearance to enter the new nation state of Kent won’t be able to get out!
The day of the Grand Opening is the first time a fully laden full size artic goes in it. It sinks without a trace. The second one, proceeding more cautiously, strikes a gravitational anomaly and is spaghettified. (it later emerges that they knew about the black hole in advance, but the report had been suppressed until 2032, and apparently that's perfectly normal- and besides, it's the council's fault) The third, forced in at gunpoint by Mark Francois who got out of court early, is eaten by triffids, who we are immediately told were allowed in by France and harboured by Jeremy Corbyn in his allotment. The BBC declares it a partial success, then forced to apologise for being so negative.
Grant Shapps is found 2 weeks later, having followed his satnav to the wrong Kent and ended up in Sierra Leone.
I remember seeing an interview with the guy that first coined the term "Brexit" in some fairly obscure document he'd penned back on 2012 I think.
He said that Brexit was fundamentally a battle within the UK for it to either remain a Welfare State or become a free-market economy.
I think he is and was, spot on. We are heading towards an economic Darwinism where wealth is the only security blanket there will be.
For everyone else, they are just the expendable grease on the cogs that keep the meat grinder churning away.
This made me laugh
No 10 startled by EU insistence that UK accept Brexit trade terms
ie that the EU have now reached the minimum acceptable terms for a deal and will not and indeed in many ways legally cannot move any more.
We have nothing to offer them, its stupid to keep on insisting that the EU do something that they simply cannot. Go on Johnson - walk away from the talks. We dare you!
No surprise but, yet again, johnson and his acolytes attempt to shift blame and responsibility onto the EU.
The chief clown is now facing another problem of his own making, desperately trying to shift blame onto someone else - anyone; doesn't matter who it is.
Has he never heard of the Peter Principle?
He is the living embodiment - promoted beyond the level of his own abilities.
Anyone with anything between their ears always knew that it would end up as the EU saying “there you go.... take it or ****in’ leave it”
Can I just point out, for the sake of fairness that AFAIK THM was banned for his Brexit leaning transgressions. If this is not the case any mod may correct me.
As much as I disagreed with him he at least tried to engage with the lynch mobs and had a sadly mistaken belief that this would work out. In fact Im pretty sure he wes a remainer.
Jamba on the other hand was just an idiot.
Anyone with anything between their ears always knew that it would end up as the EU saying “there you go…. take it or ****in’ leave it”
Given 'our' GINO and the people and inner motives it weaponised for it's own success, this was always nailed on.
Jingoistic, fantasy peddling liars in confrontation with reality shocker...
He said that Brexit was fundamentally a battle within the UK for it to either remain a Welfare State or become a free-market economy.
Yep, and on my FB feed I pointed this out before the 2016 Ref after one of my friends said "Brexit, seriously mate, what's the worse that could happen".
My answer was to go to some other countries and see how ordinary folk live. The battle between affording to eat, keep a roof over their heads, educate their kids AND afford healthcare. I've worked all across the world and compared to +90% of the worlds' population, average folk here have a decent life - they just don't know it.
For example, even in the US many folk are only a couple of paychecks away from poverty. One episode of my past always reminds me of how 'precarious' our lives can be. Previously I had to lay off half a team in the States, one guy was in total despair because his daughter depending on expensive medication that he could only afford due to the company health insurance. A new company would not take on this cost. Suicide looked like a way out, because he'd still work for us when he died so she'd be cared for (for life)...
As I said a page back or so, “Brexit isn’t the destination, it’s the vehicle”.
So if you voted Leave or worse, voted Tory in 2019 - you're responsible for this - what was it Tusk said about "a special place in hell"?
Yes, I'm angry.
I don't think THM or Jamba were banned - just left when their positions became untenable
Ooh a Brexit positive benefit, you’ll be able to get Cashback without buying anything 🙂
Yep, and on my FB feed I pointed this out before the 2016 Ref after one of my friends said “Brexit, seriously mate, what’s the worse that could happen”.
My answer was to go to some other countries and see how ordinary folk live. The battle between affording to eat, keep a roof over their heads, educate their kids AND afford healthcare. I’ve worked all across the world and compared to +90% of the worlds’ population, average folk here have a decent life – they just don’t know it.
For example, even in the US many folk are only a couple of paychecks away from poverty. One episode of my past always reminds me of how ‘precarious’ our lives can be. Previously I had to lay off half a team in the States, one guy was in total despair because his daughter depending on expensive medication that he could only afford due to the company health insurance. A new company would not take on this cost. Suicide looked like a way out, because he’d still work for us when he died so she’d be cared for (for life)…
As I said a page back or so, “Brexit isn’t the destination, it’s the vehicle”.
So if you voted Leave or worse, voted Tory in 2019 – you’re responsible for this – what was it Tusk said about “a special place in hell”?
Yes, I’m angry.
Great post and nails a lot of stuff.
In a global sense, we are amazingly wealthy. But enough nasty inner prejudices were still there to be exploited by cynical shits.
Drip-drip.
"You could have more"
"The immigrants/benefit cheats are taking your rightful wealth away"
"Labour want to take your 3 bed semi and give it to an asylum seeker"
Eventually you end up with a truly lucky society convinced it is a victim.
And in the final irony, the people behind the drip-drip actually will line their own pockets at the expense of everyone else.
This is why I can't even think about Brexit without laughing inside - bitterly - as yet another politician is made to look stupid defending the patently stupid.
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Anyway, now that his fox news / trump fluffer career is on the way out Farrdige is now hawking crypto!
"I won’t be giving advice and I am not regulated to do so. What I am trying to do is encourage people to make their own financial decisions.
I have lightened my investments in the stock market quite considerably over the course of the past few weeks. I am now looking at other areas, including alternative investments. I’m interested in gold and increasingly even in cryptocurrencies. I am cautious of the stock market. At some point the real effects of the crisis will hit."
Eventually you end up with a truly lucky society convinced it is a victim.
I love the way this forum throws up brilliantly accurate quotes like this that sum up complex issues so neatly.
