[Closed] Boris Johnsons latest speech

Are you basing that upon hearing the full speech, reading a transcript, or on media coverage of selected highlights?

Keep telling you the man is EVIL

A transcript. However I'm not sure its the whole lot.

[url= http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/stupid-poor-people-are-stupid-and-poor-says-massive-blonde-haired-child-2013112881538 ]A summary of his speech[/url]

Yeah but he's a total ledge - good old Boris - lol etc. 😐

Total Cockwomble

It's people like him who are a perfect example of those who have a very high IQ, but are really effing stupid.

I'm not sure he's ever even taken an IQ test, I certainly don't think he'd have gotten into Oxford without the Eton education. Thus I'd like to think he's scared to take one.

If he's so desperate to be PM (which he so obviously is), then send the **** to do his electioneering in Toxteth. Lets see how he gets on

Hasn't the link between iq and wealth been entirely discredited?

Katie Price is worth 45 million.

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It's people like him who are a perfect example of those who have a very high IQ, but have no common sense.

FTFY

I'd rather than an intelligent smug prime minister, who pretends we don't know exactly whats going on.

I think they've repeatedly proven the link between attending Eton and subsequently developing a horrendous sense of entitlement/Napoleon complex, where you consider it your birthright to be running the country though

IQ and intelligence are not synonyms...

This one is so outrageous that I'm starting to wonder whether Boris is a left wing troll planted by labour.....

Sadly though, aspirational voters/Daily Mail types are probably lapping his words up as gospel.

I think they've repeatedly proven the link between attending Eton and subsequently developing a horrendous sense of entitlement/Napoleon complex, where you consider it your birthright to be running the country though

Hmm, I thought that link was Primrose Hill Primary School?

Edit: full speech transcript here:

http://www.cps.org.uk/events/q/date/2013/11/27/the-2013-margaret-thatcher-lecture-boris-johnson/

A highlight being:

[i]All they have to go on is Russell Brand and the BBC and what their teachers tell them. They weren’t around in the 1970s. I was, and I remember what it was like and how this country was seen. Our food was boiled and our teeth were awful and our cars wouldn’t work and our politicians were so hopeless that they couldn’t even keep the lights on because the coal miners were constantly out on strike, as were the train drivers and the grave-diggers, and the man who was really in charge seemed to be called Jack Jones. I remember how deserted London seemed, as people fled to Essex or elsewhere, and the stringy grass and the spangles wrappers and the bleached white dog turds in the park, and the gust of Watneys pale ale from the scuzzy pubs.[/i]

[i]It's people like him who are a perfect example of those who have a very high IQ, but have no common sense.[/i]

You haven't fixed it, you've said the same thing. As has ransos.

is it true he wants to have his floating airport called Margaret Thatcher International?

🙂

good luck with that borris, maybe his IQ is infact quite low

His description of life in the UK in the 1970's is spot on.

All they have to go on is Russell Brand and the BBC and what their teachers tell them. They weren’t around in the 1970s. I was, and I remember what it was like and how this country was seen. Our food was boiled and our teeth were awful and our cars wouldn’t work and our politicians were so hopeless that they couldn’t even keep the lights on because the coal miners were constantly out on strike, as were the train drivers and the grave-diggers, and the man who was really in charge seemed to be called Jack Jones. I remember how deserted London seemed, as people fled to Essex or elsewhere, and the stringy grass and the spangles wrappers and the bleached white dog turds in the park, and the gust of Watneys pale ale from the scuzzy pubs.

his floating airport

This confirms his stupidity. There are so many things wrong with this idea.

I'm not entirely sure the Tory party can claim credit for the death of the white dog turd.

Ah Boris, Boris. I like him, I'd like to go to the pub with him, and I reckon he'd be a valuable member of any cabinet- any party- as long as he didn't have any direct responsibility. But you wouldn't trust him to make his own breakfast, he'd cut off both his hands with the butter knife then blame Ken.

Our food was boiled and our teeth were awful and our cars wouldn’t work and our politicians were so hopeless that they couldn’t even keep the lights on because the coal miners were constantly out on strike,

I completely agree with him. Complete equality is simply not possible, some people will always do better than others, it's just how it is. At no point does he use the phrase "too stupid". Tell you what, next time you go to the doctors instead of seeing a well qualified intelligent person you can see Thickie Mcthickster who still picks his nose and eats it.

Easy to tear Boris a new one from your keyboard, I'm sure he's gutted.

Its a straw-man, NO-ONE is arguing for "complete equality", just a reduction of inequality.

Jools, medicine is a notorious profession for "thickies" getting jobs based on who mummy and daddy know.

I was at an Oxford college dinner once where me and my friends met a woman who genuinely made us worried about ever needing neurosurgery. Rumour had it that she'd failed her A-levels once and had gotten an Oxford education because daddy had made a donation.

At no point does he use the phrase "too stupid".

But he does talk about there being high IQ types at the top of the cornflakes packet and low IQ types at the bottom. In other words inferring that IQ and status are linked. Which kind of overlooks that the distribution of wealth in this country still approximates to pretty much the share out by William the Conquereor made to the Crown, his nobles and the Church.

just a reduction of inequality

Keynes wanted a reduction in the inequality of people as well:

Hence the enthusiasm of John Maynard Keynes, director of the Eugenics Society from 1937 to 1944, for contraception, essential because the working class was too "drunken and ignorant" to keep its numbers down.

[url= http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/feb/17/eugenics-skeleton-rattles-loudest-closet-left ]http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/feb/17/eugenics-skeleton-rattles-loudest-closet-left[/url]

Keynes wanted a reduction in the inequality of people as well:

not sure i follow your point? or is this Godwins law?

Poor old Keynes though, contraception has probably had the effect of reducing the numbers of children born to educated families in comparison to the ignorant working classes he so loathed.

The distribution of wealth is this country, does it need distributing then, which bit would you like? Yes there are cracks and yes it's not perfect but largely here you are fed, watered, warm and dry. Compare that with oh, I dunno, around 90% of the world and I can't see what anyone living in the UK would whinge about. Even the bottom cornflakes have cars, homes, TV's - You know all the trainspotting intro stuff.

He forgot the Sweenie and the Professionals. Other than that, spot on.

No they don't and with current trends all the housing will be bought up by the 1 percent as an investment.

You are saying that people should be happy with the lot given to them by their masters because it's a lot worse in other parts of the world. This stinks of the kind of tory 'know your place' elitism that I am so used to dealing with.

+1 for Boris. I lived through the 70s and they were awful. If Thatcher hadn't saved us I hate to think where we would be today 🙂

but largely here you are fed, watered, warm and dry.

I'm sure you could say the same for the slaves o nthe plantations in the West Indies, but I'm not sure its a great indicator of human values.

which bit would you like?

Personally, I'd just like a fair crack at the pot along with everyone else. Unfortunately that is a very great distance from what happens and for politicians that expound about the market and how it finds equilibrium left to its own devices its a bit rich given that at no point have they ever been exposed to genuine market forces in their lifetime, nor have their ancestors in recent history. Try checking out their lineage and perhaps read up about the telephone number sums being bandied about in the current Lawson case. These are not things to which you or I or our children or their children, or their childrens children can aspire.

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There is a link between income inequality and corruption and others have argued that there is a link between equality and good growth.

So it seems that Boris wants us to be a bit more like vast swathes of Africa. Corrupt and shit except for a few of warlords who have everything.

I'm not so sure I am saying that, there are plenty of self made people in this country who do perfectly well and haven't had their "lot given to them" but instead earned it through heard graft. "All the housing being bought up" sounds like stirring up hatred for anyone who does well and buys property. I don't begrudge people what they have or what they've achieved or imply they only got there through special advantages, unlike so many people. What about people like Donald Gosling, Richard Branston, James Dyson etc etc. People talk about the rich as though they are a separate species when in reality they are people like us who often sacrificed a lot to achieve what they have. I cannot stand the politics of envy.

From what I remember, everytime Boris appeared on "Have I got News For You" with informed, intelligent, erudite, articulate people, he came across as a total thicko. Just saying.

Haha Jools is one of the Mail reading aspirational voter types. Let's ignore the stats and rock out Branson as an example.

How do you feel about British homes being bought by chinese investors Jools?

Nope I link to cats not the mail, shit sheet it is. I do aspire though, I'd certainly like my kids to achieve more than me in what ever way they choose to and I want a better life for me and mine, should I apologise then? See now there's the thing people simplify complex issues and think they've scored. What chinese investor exactly, what if that investor bought a house here but also started a factory in the North East employing 500 people would they still be undesirable? What about the Chinese stuff all over your house(I expect) OK to buy their cheap stuff but screw them investing in the UK property market.

Nothing wrong with that apart from the fact that you support someone who will make that harder for you, as I doubt you have millions or the connections.

No, investing in property to rent out to your children. The profits of which they funnel back to China.

I didn't vote for Boris or for Red Ken before him, but anyone who says you're limited in this Country is spouting bollocks and just hasn't seen the world. The worst thing these bastards have done is price normal people out of education, I protested, how many here were there too I wonder?

Touche, you never went to public school mate.

I was there and they won't stop at education.

My wife did and her dad went to Eton, he's a lovely bloke who works like a donkey for charity and so on, which is why I get a bit annoyed about Eton = Bastards. Life is just not that simple.