Boris Johnson!

How’s Putin isolated the UK, or looking like twunts on the world stage, or that the US are split down the middle

You are joking, aren't you? You just forgot the wonky smiley, yeah?

Even if it wasn't Putin, the Brexit show with Boris has been a perfect comedy for the rest of the world and provided many hilarious moments - for everyone but the people on this island. And yes, we looks like absolute idiots for how our government and politics is now going.

That is clear to see everywhere you look...

What’s going to be tediously predictable, as the local elections approach, is the threat to trigger article 16 and other general anti-EU sabre-rattling to fire up the Brexity racist pensioner base to get out and vote

The unity needed to stand against Putin over Ukraine will be the next thing to be casually sacrificed on the alter of Johnson’s monstrous planet-sized ego

I think just about every European leader has been to visit Zelensky in the past week. Ursala von de Leyen was there the day before Johnson and even visited Bucha to see the site of the killings.

I think just about every European leader has been to visit Zelensky in the past week.

Cynically, I suspect that is the main reason Boris went out there. Desperate not to be upstaged by Europe and attempting to show that we still matter.

Even if he was doing the right thing, I wouldn't believe it.

Most people on here can’t stand BJ, and neither can I. But if the question was do you hate him more for going or not going- I would say he comes out better for going.
If it helps in the slightest, I’m all for it, and I have to say I was surprised and glad to see him make the effort.

Johnson likes to think of himself as a modern day Churchill, so while he may not truly care about the plight of Ukraine he probably does relish the thought of being a heroic wartime leader. I expect that his childhood dreams of being world leader/prime minister of the UK revolved more around giving stirring speeches and looking heroic than concentrating on the details of trade agreements and pandemic procedures.

Johnson likes to think of himself as a modern day Churchill,

yeah, lets hope he hands in his notice and heads off to the western front.

Well, I’m glad he went, and won’t knock him for it

Will go to Kyiv, won't go to Liverpool.

Or go on Channel4 News.

Yes it would most likely trigger WWIII

Typical , we all die because someone took out the UK’s biggest twunt .

Fair play to him going, though I'm in the cynical reflected glory camp.

Was hoping a Russian sniper might have missed Zelensky and taken out Boris by accident, but never mind.

Leaves Starmer in a predicament for publicity, probably be seen at tank factory next week.

Is this the same BJ who's currently putting a number of road blocks in front of Ukranian refugees trying to enter the UK?

Is this the same BJ who’s currently putting a number of road blocks in front of Ukranian refugees trying to enter the UK?

Sideshow Boris.
His time would have been better spent cutting the red tape bullshit to allow them in.
At least he’s avoiding the Rishi scandal though eh 😉

On the Rishi thing...his wife is going to pay UK tax on stuff, but surely if everything is legit then she'll get it all back as a rebate, no?

How’s Putin isolated the UK

Brexit. Leave received illegal funding from Russia. That may well have been enough to tip the result.

Looking like twunts on the world stage

Really? Boris Johnson is our Prime Minister. Liz Truss is our foreign secretary. Plus many others. Most of our senior ministers are only in their jobs due to Brexit and the purge of non-idiots that followed.

America split down the middle

Biden can't move because the balance is so fine in the US between normal people and card carrying white supremacists (who, despite all their posturing are totally devoid of any sense of duty in the world). The US suffered an assault on the Capitol in the wake of the Biden election and there are still plenty of straw-chewing hood-wearing rednecks who would take a pot shot at Biden and believe the election was stolen.

That enough?

Putin stirred both those pots very effectively. Google Vladislav Surkov if you want to get an idea of the asymmetric info wars stuff that gives Putin a boner. But, I'm guessing you already knew all this stuff anyway, just prefer to try to deflect from it. 🤷‍♂️

cutting the red tape

I think we've pretty much established that what the bunch of strokers we have as a government mean by 'cutting red tape' is 'imposing further unnecessary red tape'.

You have obviously completely missed the point of the quote.

Not unintentionally I'd wager.....

DickBarton
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How’s Putin isolated the UK, or looking like twunts on the world stage, or that the US are split down the middle

You are joking, aren’t you? You just forgot the wonky smiley, yeah?

Even if it wasn’t Putin, the Brexit show with Boris has been a perfect comedy for the rest of the world and provided many hilarious moments – for everyone but the people on this island. And yes, we looks like absolute idiots for how our government and politics is now going.

That is clear to see everywhere you look…

I misunderstood the OP's statement, i thought he was on about the current Ukraine situation, not reading the Brexit / Trump thing, makes sense now for that.

As for the twunts stuff, i just see us in the UK seeing our government as twunts, but it's the same in every country, i think we feel we have the monopoly on bad politicians, but we really don't, France have a bunch of them, same in Germany, USA, etc, etc, how much they look like twunts on the world stage depends on how badly they're doing, Macron is doing a good job of being a bit of a prat these days, funnily enough he's just entering a harsh election round!

I'd just ssumed BJ needed to go to Ukraine becuase Liz Truss would have gone instead and now that he's leaked enough dirt about Sunak he can concentrate on Lizzie now and take her thunder.

it’s the same in every country

It really isn't.

That's the same hymn sheet as "they're all as bad as each other" that the Brexies trot out.

Obviously there are chancers, shysters and crooks vying for political position in most countries - but the electorate in most countries doesn't put them in a position where they actually attain it. Sadly not the case in the UK.

^^^

I should say 'developed' countries there. Truly tinpot kleptocracies don't count.

Is this the same BJ who’s currently putting a number of road blocks in front of Ukranian refugees trying to enter the UK?

TBH I was hoping they’d sorted that out but I’ve been disappointed in the handling of it,would have been nicer to have got that sorted whilst you could get more people out at the initial start and not when the bombs are dropping.

i think we feel we have the monopoly on bad politicians, but we really don’t, France have a bunch of them, same in Germany, USA, etc, etc, how much they look like twunts on the world stage depends on how badly they’re doing

Good point - however, the other countries do seem to try and do something about the issue whereas (at the moment), UK seems to be willing to do nothing - that may change in the local election stuff in May...but certainly the last several years have been comedy gold for all other countries looking at the UK.

It will no doubt change at some point but the longer it goes on for, the greater the damage.

UK seems to be willing to do nothing

Despite having voted 'ourselves' into this shit.

certainly the last several years have been comedy gold for all other countries looking at the UK

Very much so. Putin will love the fact that he can point to the oldest parliament in the world being undermined and belittled by Johnson's antics. "Don't mess with Russia and you'll be fine. Mess with Russia and your next election may feature the rise of a previously 'unknown' movement with a strange allure largely created on social media".

the longer it goes on for, the greater the damage

Totally. It won't take long for the notion that the UK way may not be a great model to gain traction. It probably already has.

Don't forget that the whole EU Referendum was a conscious exercise in bypassing UK parliamentary democracy. Why did it take place? Because Farage only promised to give the Tories their racists back if it was held. And held with such a stupidly simple premise. Who funded Farage? Etc.

Vlad was influential in much of this and now he's reaping his return on investment.

I should say ‘developed’ countries there. Truly tinpot kleptocracies don’t count.

You don't think we live in a kleptocracy? The man who sets tax policy has a wife who evades millions in tax. The same man refused to investigate billions of pounds of fraud after 37bn was handed to tory friends and donors during the pandemic. His party hands peerages to wealthy donors, including allies of Putin. Need I go on?

You don’t think we live in a kleptocracy?

I do. There are degrees, though. Whilst we do have a problem we are not on the same level as South Africa under Jacob Zuma, for example.

Mind you, we don't have the excuse of 'carried over' issues from a freedom struggle that bred its own unique blend of paranoia, cliques and power bases which were only kept in check by an unassailable figure like Mandela. When he popped his clogs, the moral restraint slipped a good few notches.

^^^^

Also, I don't think we have got to the stage where 'knowing where the bodies are buried' means actual bodies. Yet.

But if the last five or so years have taught me anything it is how precarious checks and balances I take for granted actually are. Anything is possible if the electorate are stupid enough to start the ball rolling and it achieves a critical mass.

Will he want a walking wounded around him like Hi Risk Anus or will he be given the royal order of boot?

You have to assume he will take the chance to give rishi rich the boot as it removes a challenger

dazh
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I should say ‘developed’ countries there. Truly tinpot kleptocracies don’t count.

You don’t think we live in a kleptocracy? The man who sets tax policy has a wife who evades millions in tax. The same man refused to investigate billions of pounds of fraud after 37bn was handed to tory friends and donors during the pandemic. His party hands peerages to wealthy donors, including allies of Putin. Need I go on?

You're like a stuck record, again, where is your evidence that his wife has evaded millions in tax, you are making an accusation again without any evidence being provided.

Also, he is the Chancellor, he is not the man who 'sets tax policy', that is what parliament do, again you are trying to make it sound like he has the power to change laws to his own benefit without the democratic process that we have in this country, where his department provide the oversight for the policies, which then have to go through parliament, independent review and so on before becoming law.

As for handing out peerages, again what's the point in making bland statements without backing it up, every party has done that since year dot, wealthy donors, MPs who give up something to get their seat in the other house and so on, i believe cash for peerages scandal was under a labour government as well.

Where's Cummings in all this?

Where’s Cummings in all this?

He seems to have got himself a STW login...

zippykona
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Where’s Cummings in all this?

Oh he won't be happy, sunak was his man + that leaked picture of the lockdown garden party was taken from sunaks treasury office balcony

Johnson has played a blinder here in removing his most serious contender as replacement, this will give his MPs pause when it comes to any leadership challenge.

Can't wait to see what Cummings does next, I'm guessing just before the local elections we will find out

Can’t wait to see what Cummings does next, I’m guessing just before the local elections we will find out

Fun isn't it?

I mean, it would be better as the plot of a soap opera. It is a strange way to run a country, though, and I bet it's providing no end of amusement to our former partners. But that's Brexit Britain for you - government by soap opera / panto.

Where’s Cummings in all this?

Suddenly realising that he's not as good a 4D chess player as he thought, cos Boris / Carrie (I'm actually suspecting Carrie more than Boris in all this) have managed to move all the scrutiny away from Partygate AND get rid of the next closest leadership contender all in one go.

Carrie will be sitting there going through all of Liz Truss' skeletons now, she'll be next in line for a hatchet job.

The squirmy little shit (Cummings) will pop up again at some point, he's like an unflushable turd but right now I doubt he's got much useful to contribute to the noise.

The squirmy little shit (Cummings) will pop up again at some point, he’s like an unflushable turd but right now I doubt he’s got much useful to contribute to the noise.

I'm hoping for cast iron proof that he lied to the Po-Po about Partygate.

Carrie will be sitting there going through all of Liz Truss’ skeletons now, she’ll be next in line for a hatchet job.

I actually think that Carrie Antionette has a little KitKat shuffle whilst she's plotting the next knifing.

I’m actually suspecting Carrie more than Boris in all this

I think you probably give them more credit in the Machiavellian stakes than I think they deserve. I think they flounder around like everyone else does

This is the alternative to Boris, the Daily Fail and Torygraph are presenting her as the next Mrs T.

She's someone who used the floods in Yorkshire as another photo op, a kind of disaster/poverty porn shoot for her middle-aged Tory members Only Fans subscirption.

In the next photo she's ignoring the flooding in Mytholmroyd and is scanning the horizon - it's all part of her lifelong quest to find her dignity/empathy/intelligence* but alas it was fruitless.

* insert any word here