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Have you considered volunteering in some way rather than work/family/hobby changes. There are plenty of organisations around who could use an extra pair of hands, and it would take you out of your normal routine and group of friends/colleagues. Or you could try bigamy, you wouldn't have time to mope then.
You don't really say what kind of personal circumstances you're in now, but here's a few suggestions...
1. Take up gardening, preferably growing veg. Amazingly therapeutic and rewarding materially and psychologically.
2. Cook all your meals from scratch, amke it part of your day. I think thsi satisifies some basic hunter gatherer instinct.
3. Don't spend so much time on web forums, the open-ended non-narrrative nature of them - where nothing is ever really resolved - is enough to break a fragile mind. I mean - how many years has this place been going and there's [i]still [/i]no definitive verdict on Superstar brake pads.
4. Study philosophy in some vague search for meaning in your life, realise that (like William Goldwin the screenwriter said about Hollywood) nobody knows anything anyway, and so stop worrying about abstract questions.
5. Stop smoking dope (just in case you do).
6. Smoke more dope, and also try MDMA, LSD and ketamine (but not all at the same time).
If none of those work, then I give up.
Good luck though, can I ask how old you are - out of interest?
Have you considered volunteering in some way rather than work/family/hobby changes. There are plenty of organisations around who could use an extra pair of hands, and it would take you out of your normal routine and group of friends/colleagues.
Good idea imo.
Also def cut down on any booze or drugs and do plenty of exercise, eat properly.
Valerian is good stuff too. 🙂
Maybe meet up with me and show me that dh trail in Grizedale too - couldn't find it last time I was up there. 😛
yeah, been there and much worse. Certainly done the standing on the edge thing as above a number of times. A great robot once said 'it's in your nature to destroy yourselves', which is entirely true and I think men in particular find it difficult not to be doing something useful and when they're not it's no huge step to look at a precipice and wonder how it would feel.
Have you thought about kidnapping women and keeping them in a hole in your cellar? You'd have dependants, a hobby to keep you going after work and the chance of getting your front door kicked in at 4am by a gang of shotgun touting coppers is going to keep you right on your toes.
Quite honestly the best thing you can do is go out on the ran-dan and have meaningless s3x with random women, men or animals or in fact all of the above.
Works for me when i feel a little 'blue'.
HTH
The things you are saying ring a lot of bells with me, it might be worth a trip to the doctors. They have a questionnaire for you to do which indicates whether you may be depressed. They will talk things over with you, and look at suitable courses of action. I have been referred to the community mental health team as well as put on some anti-ds, so am waiting for an appointment to look at CBT or counselling, so it's not just all about prescribing drugs.
NLP - I'm surprised no one's mentioned it yet. Get down to Waterstones or any bookshop, under the self help section. NLP, Neuro Linguistic Programing, a beginers/introduction/how to improve your mind state level of book. The one I recommend is 'NLP - the art and science of getting what you want' easy reading positive thought enhancing book.
Start there - do it today.
Pete
Dave - you still with us mate?
then I tend to start thinking Im wasting my life and should be doing something far more interesting.
i have this every week... my life is great apart from work, which when you think about it is mad as it takes up so much of your life.
im trying my best to get off my arse and get a new job in a totally different direction (Ambulance tech)
ive started going to the local St Johns ambulance aswell and that has got me off my arse and not made me think "ive done jack shit this week"
Yeh, still here. Im at work so dont come on here if I can help it.
Thanks for the replies, although Im sure they are making things sound more serious than they are.
I think I may wait till Im back from France and if I'm still getting these odd feelings then it might be worth taking some action. Going in a couple of weeks for about 2.5 weeks, a holiday is probably what Im after.
Chakaping - Im 24
Two and a half weeks biking in France? Jammy git. If that doesn't perk you up then it will be time to worry.
Only asked your age as these kind of feelings are quite common in peoples' mid-20s. I had them myself and put it down to a general "finding my place in the world" malaise.
Other people I've spoken to felt like this because of the disparity between their expectations on leaving university and the harshness of the real world/job market.
I don't want to read too much into a few posts on a message board of course, but my own theory is that humans are programmed to breed - and putting it off to enjoy an extended youth in our 20s creates a non-specific feeling of rootlessness and inertia. A feeling that you "should be doing more".
Anyway, that's just my take on it. Enjoy France.
Only asked your age as these kind of feelings are quite common in peoples' mid-20s. I had them myself and put it down to a general "finding my place in the world" malaise.Other people I've spoken to felt like this because of the disparity between their expectations on leaving university and the harshness of the real world/job market.
Yup me too - only started to properly enjoy life and feel good about myself in the last couple of years when I have got a rewarding job and got a bit fitter. I was pretty miserable after leaving uni - had no idea what to do with my life.
I agree with the mid 20s thing. You start "settling down" ie job, work, bills, running a house, and then you have the slow dawning realisation that this is *it* for the next x amount of years. And it's a bit of a shocker.
Then in your 30s you realise that you quite like settling down and you join the stw friday gardening chat thread.
Ahhh! Mrs.F you know your onions 😆
Sorry to hear that. "Low" episodes are a bind.
Do you have work/family/financial problems - they do me in 🙁
Do you have someone/people to cycle with?
A regular timetable of things to do, including social things?
Anyways, I hope you work through it before too long.
When I don't keep my mind occupied I'm obsessed and terrified by the unanswerable questions regarding death and where space ends, and what contains space..etc ad nauseum.
There's a whole raft of apparently depressed Theoretical Physicists then 😀
indeed tankslapper i am a wise old crone.
davidtaylforth:I think I may wait till Im back from France.....Going in a couple of weeks for about 2.5 weeks....
Well that is all my sympathy for you out the window 😉
2 and a half weeks of sleeping in a tent - I hope it doesnt rain.
I had something similar, the last 18 months or so have been crap, down to grief, relationship going pete tong and generally just feeling bored and low...
But during the last 5 or 6 months I have been meeting loads of new people (complete strangers) for riding, walking and new stuff...
IMO it's made a hell of a difference to the state of my mind...and I'm loving it...visiting new places, meeting people, trying new stuff...
I'm not saying for one minute it will work for you, but I wanted to avoid pills at all costs...I just want to have fun...
Chin up and keep smiling...
Hi David,
If it's any help I've had depression for over 2 years now. One of the best things I found is simply to surround yourself with the people you love, friends and family. Eat well too, it's a big part of how you'll feel physically.
I've also stopped getting seriously stressed about work, and concentrate on doing the things I love outside of work.
You work to live, not live to work.
Right now I'm a wreck and I doing all I can to hold it together. Over the last few days I've considered which would be the best way to go. The bottom has dropped out of my world.
What is it with you track cyclists and depression? You want to try getting out in the fresh air! 🙂
Seriously chap, drop me an email if you want to talk to someone.
Right now I'm a wreck and I doing all I can to hold it together. Over the last few days I've considered which would be the best way to go. The bottom has dropped out of my world.
Joxter, it was you who was trying to sort out a divorce amicably wasn't it? How's that going?
Crikey Joxster, what happened?
I'm finding it very hard coping with loosing the person I wanted to spend my life with
I'm sure I will get accused of being a hand-wringing liberal Guardianista etc, but when I was depressed I found that reading things like this helped to put my problems in perspective:
'About 25,000 people die every day of hunger or hunger-related causes, according to the United Nations.
http://www.poverty.com/
Almost half the world — over three billion people — live on less than $2.50 a day.
http://www.globalissues.org/article/26/poverty-facts-and-stats
To be among the richest 10% of adults in the world required $61,000 in assets
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2006-12/unu-pss120106.php '
Not trying to belittle anyone's problems, just like I said, for me it made me realise that in many ways my life was pretty damn good, and that I should stop focussing on the negative so much.
Not a very helpful post grumm and if those articles made a difference it wasn't depression, just malaise. If you've had depression, esp severe, you'd know about it and wouldn't post such nonsense.
I've often wondered how people in go-getting jobs requiring strong personalities cope when they are hit by depression?
Joxter, ditto mr_a's post. You're fairly local iirc so drop me an email if you need to talk or even if you fancy trying riding with some different people just for a change of scene.
I agree with footflaps, I'm still getting over depression. I couldn't even read one page, and I read avidly. In fact I couldn't concentrate for more than 5 minutes on anything. At least I'm reading again, and moving forward
Not a very helpful post grumm and if those articles made a difference it wasn't depression, just malaise. If you've had depression, esp severe, you'd know about it and wouldn't post such nonsense.
I'm sure you know better than the healthcare professionals I saw, based on a post on an internet forum.
I wasn't severely depressed no, doesn't sound like the OP is either. I'm saying for me personally, reading things like that helped me in a small way to start challenging my own negative thinking. I'm sure for many people it's completely irrelevant and not helpful, but it could be for some, and there's no need to be a cock about it.
I probably didn't really explain the relevance of it to me particularly well in the last post.
Joxter, I'm really sorry to hear you're struggling so much. Think counselling may help talk things out?
I'm finding it very hard coping with loosing the person I wanted to spend my life with
It may not feel like it at the moment but things WILL get better. As Mrsflash says, talk to someone, can be a professional or a mate, but don't just recycle the same thoughts in your head and think about what might have been.
Hey Joxster, I'm going through the exact same thing so I know how you feel. It's very hard but try to believe in yourself, get out with some mates and don't be afraid to show some emotions with them - it does help.
Your be surprised how many friend you have.
Good luck mate, god knows we all need it!