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In other news it looks like I am doing (subject to entry being available) the Blenhim Tri as a team - on the bike leg

I did the blenheim tri last year, not in a team though, it is a great event. The bike leg is quite up and down. You can overtake a lot of people on one of the downhills if you don't mind a bit of ballsy descending. The ups is obviously fitness dependent.


 
Posted : 08/02/2012 12:09 pm
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I don't have a TT bike - I discussed borrowing the swimmer's one but then we thought it might be a little hairy with traffic and speed so I might be better off with my own road bike!


 
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blenheim tri
Isn't that the one that the beautiful people do....


 
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Molly you wimp. I'm doing the whole thing. I am one of the beautiful people, see.


 
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TT bike is pointless, too up and down, you could use one if you already have one and you will see people with them, but I wouldn't get one specially. Use your own road bike, maybe get some tribars on it, but not unless you practice with them first.


 
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I have some clip-ons but they aren't really any good - too high, and I get a pretty decent tuck on the drops anyway.


 
Posted : 08/02/2012 12:28 pm
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What pace are you hoping to do the ride in Mol?


 
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Can't you practise on the TT bike first to get used to it? Was reading an interesting article about training for TTs - basically pick a hr you think you can sustain for 10miles. Warm up, get on a turbo and get up to this hr, note your speed at this hr and keep it at that for 10miles. Do this a max of once a week.

In other news i think i may have my second cold of the winter, having not had a cold for 2-3+ years. I wonder if being lighter is to blame...


 
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I blame not eating meat ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
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Theres not really any point in the TT bike if theres plenty of hills involved, I doubt you'd be going fast enough to feel the benefit. I think the best thing you could do is lay off the carbs and drop a bit of weight to make you quicker up the hills.


 
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It's not mega hilly, but undulating enough that you won't really be hunkered down in TT position for long stretches.


 
Posted : 08/02/2012 12:37 pm
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DG - so practice time trials then? ๐Ÿ™‚ I use open flat(ish) fast roads for that.

Yeti - I've got no idea what my pace would be, but I reckon I'd be best off just attacking it like an MTB race. So 20km should in theory come up fairly quickly.


 
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i can train you molly, all i need is your credit card details and soon you'll be at TSY levels of awesomeness....

he doesnt like to admit it but i've been training him for a while now


 
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cyclists only look particularly weird

no, for misproportioned you want to find pictures of Zac Efron.


 
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Yup i reckon so Mol. I've entered a mountain TT (25miles) GULP. The article also went on to say how intervals should be done on both flat and hills, not just hills as you can cheat using hills. Intervals on the flat are good for TT'ing, sprints and solo break aways.

I'm currently using sufferfest and the turbo for intervals due to the dark/ice, so its around 4mins of TT effort and 3 mins of climbing effort and then 3 min rest for an hour. Its nasty! I nearly puked at the end of the first one!

I have 4 races in March then i'm racing twice a week for about 8 weeks before settling back into once a week...training will no longer be required from the end of March! ๐Ÿ™‚


 
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sufferfest and a cold...thats not a winning combo


 
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I didn't say i did sufferfest when i had a cold


 
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How do you cheat using hills in training?

I have a power meter, so I pick my power and stick to it regardless of hill or flat. The only thing that changes is stuff like cadence and pedaling style.


 
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i think i may have my second cold of the winter

I'm currently using sufferfest and the turbo for intervals due to the dark/ice
...sorry if I misunderstood


 
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How do you cheat using hills in training?

Go to Lincolnshire?


 
Posted : 08/02/2012 1:19 pm
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How do you cheat using hills in training?

Turnaround?


 
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I have a power meter, so I pick my power and stick to it regardless of hill or flat
so do you go fast uphill and slow on the flat or vice versa.... :-)....oops I've just re-read that and it makes no sense....should have read slow uphill and faster on the flats...no, still nonsense, everyone goes faster on the flat than uphill...... ๐Ÿ˜ณ


 
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In other news i think i may have my second cold of the winter, having not had a cold for 2-3+ years. I wonder if [s]being lighter[/s] my diet is to blame...


FTFY


 
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DirtyG - do you want me to do you a diet plan?


 
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so do you go fast uphill and slow on the flat or vice versa

Riding at constant power involves going surprisingly slowly up hills and having to hammer down them like an idiot. If it's steep then to keep constant power you need to apply the brakes, although this is a training technique not a racing one! However I have been advised that constant power is the best policy for time trials.

Say your threshold power is 330W, going up to 450W on the climbs would save a bit of time on them but the extra fatigue generated could cause you to be limping home at 270W or so by the end which in theory would be more detrimental to your time.

Depends on the hills though - I still think if they are short enough hammering up them is best. But I am not a TT specialist ๐Ÿ™‚


 
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As an aside, how does your threshold power relate to % heart rate?


 
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Nope, currently using sufferfest means this winter. There's no way i could do sufferfest with a cold, its evil when i'm feeling 100%!

As for the hills thing - it was saying most people find it easier to raise hr and deliver higher power on hills than flats and so its easier just to do intervals on hills.
Personally i find my legs kill me if i do intervals on the flat but they kill me slightly less on climbs because i was more of a climber.

@TSY, will it involve meat?! will it see me podium? my diet hasn't really changed over the years, just much less fat in the last few months hence the weight loss and body fat drop. *eats lard pies*


 
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As an aside, how does your threshold power relate to % heart rate?

Well I haven't used the power meter for a while, but when I was threshold power was about 330W and hr was about 185 when my max was maybe 194. So that's what, 95% max ish.

That's threshold power defined as average power sustainable for 10 miles.


 
Posted : 08/02/2012 1:59 pm
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much less fat in the last few months

I have no idea why you've been suffering more colds then!!

Seriously... eat some more fat.


 
Posted : 08/02/2012 2:06 pm
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Thanks for that....I don't use a power meter so its interesting to compare the thresholds.


 
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low fat diets aren't good for the immune system, neither are low body fat levels.


 
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how does your threshold power relate to % heart rate?

For comparison at my threshold HR is 171, 87% of max and my O2 uptake is 75% of max.

While for running it's HR 181, 91% of max. O2 uptake 82% of max.


 
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low body fat levels aren't good for the immune system

the blip behind me just read that and ordered in more cream cakes


 
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DGOAB - I am very disappoint. "Podium" is NOT a verb.


 
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ok, slight deviation as i dont personally class Adele as a top athlete

[img] http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef0168e6d735c9970c-800wi [/img]

and it could all be big hair...


 
Posted : 08/02/2012 3:21 pm
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[i]Molly you wimp. I'm doing the whole thing. I am one of the beautiful people, see. [/i]

I thought so.
I thought that was you standing 3rd in from the right on the January pic of the 2012 STW calendar.
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when I was threshold power was about 330W

was this from a lab test?


 
Posted : 08/02/2012 4:04 pm
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No, Powertap.


 
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