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Marvellous. Celebratory sausage roll?
Rather than the variety of different bull' being spouted by various people, this is what one of the top MTB coaches recommends when it comes to losing weight while still training hard. I'd trust this more than anything else in this thread. I've been loosely following the general guidelines since about September/October, along with weights and lots of other training, and my % body fat has dropped below 6%, while putting on 6kg of mass. The info graph picture has got a hell of a lot of useful info and also covers the whole daily protein requirements issue:
Kryton57 - MemberWell thats good news.
My skinfold calipers arrived, and I'm 10.5%, on the border of lean/ideal for my age.
Nice one. I had mine done today by a sport science guy at work, he said really its better just to conentrate on the mm value of all the 8 added up. he didnt know values for cyclists but sugested middle distance runners (as a possible equivalent) are 30-40mm at elite level
Above is pretty much the same as I've been following. Great infographic
It appears that useful, relevant information is the best way to shut down a thread. Haha
My favourite thing about this thread is that the OPs question was sorted on p1 and there are still folk arguing about how he could lose more weight on p6.
OP - have you tried adding brickdust to your meals? It stimulates the production of beta-floptase which 'prickles' your mitochondria, making you burn divergent ketones instead of turning them to cheese.
stevious - Member
OP - have you tried adding brickdust to your meals? It stimulates the production of beta-floptase which 'prickles' your mitochondria, making you burn divergent ketones instead of turning them to cheese.
As anyone in the know will tell you, rather than burn divergent ketones, supplementation of brickdust actually adds to the body's storage of cheese building blocks, resulting in the condition 'hyperouthousis'.
It isn't the divergent ketones you need to worry yourself about. Convergent aldehydes are much worse. You need to cut them out of your diet completely. They are found in bread.
Cereal bars, crisps, bread and shop bought soups..
For goodness sake
Give up now.. You don't have an effing clue 😆
Try eating some real food
What's wrong with shop bought soups?
There are some good ones.
What's wrong with shop bought soups?There are some good ones.
They cause arguments.
I've read the first and last posts of this thread, my guess is that in between it turns out that the scales are rubbish and there has been the usual black and white 'dietary debate' where everyone knows best. The OP, meanwhile, will have collapsed and been hospitalised after mainlining organic soup. And Molgrips still has a physiology markedly different from anyone else in the world as he was found in the wreckage of a flying saucer and adopted by a nice old couple from the home counties.
The diet thing winds me up marginally, yes I'm sure we'd all like to keep our own chickens, grow our own vegetables, grind our own grain and make all our food from our home produced ingredients with no additives etc. Unfortuantely as most of us work, even trying to maintain a training load is difficult enough as well as making all food from scratch. Things like those Covent Garden soups are fine imo
jonba - Member
It isn't the divergent ketones you need to worry yourself about. Convergent aldehydes are much worse. You need to cut them out of your diet completely. They are found in bread.
You need to make sure that they're in bread made from dead Head though - you really don't want the live strain 😯
[url= http://singletrackworld.com/reviews/fuel-10k-breakfast-solutions/ ]Breakfast Solutions[/url]
actual lol
This was a very revealing and interesting read, even from a Lay perspective: about how the body adapts to training, dieting, and so on, and why it's pretty much down to luck of the draw...
[url= http://www.amazon.co.uk/Faster-Obsession-Science-Fastest-Cyclists/dp/1408837773/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1453972848&sr=1-1&keywords=faster+michael+hutchinson ]Faster by Michael Hutchinson[/url]
and there has been the usual black and white 'dietary debate' where everyone knows best
yet most are mysteriously 20kg overweight
but its probably underlying muscle from that time they played rugby at school
and just for the protein haterz, last night i had protein pancakes with my dinner, in place of starchy carbs, worked out really nice/well
Aye, you know best eh. Who are you again?
That's just rude, fella. Is this a case of...
Big hitters on Stw vs mere forumites.*
I'm at least 10kg over what I'd be happy with for racing. That's not minimal. It's a very stubborn 10kg though, for some reason.
You admitted it yourself in a similar discussion just before xmas - cakes and desserts and an inability to resist consumption.
*From that other thread
Kryton57 - Member
FTW
Their 365 recipe book is very good.
nickc - MemberThis was a very revealing and interesting read, even from a Lay perspective: about how the body adapts to training, dieting, and so on, and why it's pretty much down to luck of the draw...
Faster by Michael Hutchinson
Just finished reading that after a recommendation on another thread. Great read, both entertaining and interesting, especially for the detail obsessed cyclist.
Is a good read, though I did feel a bit like giving up racing after reading it 😕
You admitted it yourself in a similar discussion just before xmas - cakes and desserts and an inability to resist consumption.
Yeah periodically, that's it... but I can go a long time doing fairly well and not much happens to my weight.
yet most are mysteriously 20kg overweight
but its probably underlying muscle from that time they played rugby at school
Our biggest problem is the easily skinny people assuming that everyone fat is a spineless deluded **** 👿
mrblobby - MemberIs a good read, though I did feel a bit like giving up racing after reading it
haha, it had the opposite impact on me, made me think i should quit my job so i had enough time to train properly! Although given my entire race winnings to date consist of £18, one bottle of beer, one jar of honey and three energy bars, I'm not sure its a viable proposition!
Our biggest problem is the easily skinny people assuming that everyone fat is a spineless deluded ****
You mean they're not?
[i] molgrips - Member
Yeah periodically, that's it... but I can go a long time doing fairly well and not much happens to my weight.[/i]
I think you once actually identified the source of your personal frustration on this matter as "[i]inconsistency[/i]".
Lifestyle has more influence on this subject, imo, than ever it has and not everyone feels they can choose an acceptable lifestyle and still pay the mortgage. For lots of folk it's a compromise and so likely to provide varied results.
Because of the job I do, my lifestyle, from a fitness perspective is poop!
🙂
Our biggest problem is the easily skinny people assuming that everyone fat is a spineless deluded ****
yeah but... Everytime this comes up, YOU admit that you can't resist cakes, sweets, biccies etc etc, and THEN get all defensive when folk [s]take the piss[/s] have a point of view on your progress...
😆
I think that you have to be very careful about what foods that you're buying. We generally eat well and cook most of our food from scratch. Ocassionally there's not enough time or anything preprepared which means heading toward the tins or packets of ready meals. Something that I am partial to is a tin of [url= http://www.tesco.com/groceries/product/details/?id=259061910 ]these[/url] with some fried turkey all thrown together as a post ride fix or whatever. One tin contains 3 teaspoons of sugar on what is, on the face of it, a healthy (or at least healthier than beans on toast etc) dish.
We no longer buy this and are upping the home prepped for freezer content.
Look for the hidden sugars.
[i] nickc - Member
yeah but... Everytime this comes up, YOU admit that you can't resist cakes, sweets, biccies etc etc, and THEN get all defensive when folk take the piss have a point of view on your progress...[/i]
You appear to have enjoyed that post. Go you, eh?
Wow!
You missed this: 😆 that's at the end.
you know, as in: A Joke, having a laff, taking the mickey, joshing about...
molgrips - MemberAye, you know best eh. Who are you again?
Someone not important enough to not have enough time to waste on STW. 😉
clearly
