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[url= http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8091605.stm ]Outside Parliament.[/url]
Good waste of eggs I'd say. Why couldn't they use hammers?
http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/this-cheered-me-up
Lets keep all our eggs in one basket please
sorry, 🙂
Waste of good hammers. Use broken bricks I say.
B*st*rd had the nerve to hold his press conference outside Parliament which he wouldn't get into if he was the last potential MP in the UK.
Waste of good bricks i say. Should have used old beer bottles.
Thats the kind of recycling i like.
Outrageous attack on his human rights. Part of the problem here is that he was fairly and reasoanbly elected. You absolutely cannot complain once he has been elected that he has been. Its called democracy.
Personally I'd throw egss, hammers and bricks at the ****wits who thought voting for the BNP was some sort of sensible thing to do for any reason whatsoever, and secondly at the other parties who have made such a complete lash up of our political system such as to produce an environment that such a thing could come about.
don't blame Nick Griffin, you can't stop him being a cretin any more than you can stop a dog licking its own arse
Personally I'd throw egss, hammers and bricks at the ****wits who thought voting for the BNP was some sort of sensible thing to do for any reason whatsoever, and secondly at the other parties who have made such a complete lash up of our political system such as to produce an environment that such a thing could come about.
quite
would be funny to a bag of soot thrown over him.
Outrageous attack on his human rights. Part of the problem here is that he was fairly and reasoanbly elected. You absolutely cannot complain once he has been elected that he has been. Its called democracy.
I'm sure the people of Germany and Europe who msuffered because of Hitler and his cronies will whole heartedly agree with your opinion G - NOT!
This is the second time today I've sided with G on a subject. Is that a good thing or a bad thing? 😉
"Anti-facists" preventing free speech? WTF
May I ask all these people who are criticising the people who voted for the BNP who they voted for, especialy those who may live in the areas the BNP got in.
And remember, the reason we can sit here and criticise them, is the same reason they got in, we live in a democracy, you could ban the BNP, but where do you stop, where do you draw the line, ban the communists? or anyone else we don't agree with.
Jova
Lets ban the Communists then, Stalin was just as bad, if not worse, than Hitler.
May I ask all these people who are criticising the people who voted for the BNP who they voted for
yes, but would they tell you??
the people who didn't vote in those areas probably wouldn't, because their arguments then become irrelivant, if you didn't vote...don't complain
G - nothing to do with Human rights. Find the article of the HRA that covers this. He has no "human right" to make speeches outside parliament.
In a democracy protest is important. Its important people show their disgust. they should do this on the right side of the law however. Shouting him down and making his "press conference" untenable would have been right.
toomanybikes - Member
JovaLets ban the Communists then, Stalin was just as bad, if not worse, than Hitler.
Don't need to, they used to be called socialists and were supposed to be represented by the Labour Party, wherever that has disappeared to.
he has no human right, but he does have the right as an Englishman to stand outside parliament and make a speech, it's called freedom of speech,
[i]Outrageous attack on his human rights[/i]
A bit of shouting, and some food thrown at him, hardly constitutes an outrageous attack, he was free to carry on if he chose, TBH this sort of thing must be run-of-the-mill for him.
Too many bikes - and the protesters have the right to shout him down - if not the duty.
I found this interesting - from the Beeb
The number of people voting BNP across the UK as a whole went up slightly, from 808,201 to 943,598 in the European elections, but went down slightly in the two regions where it gained MEPs, with the party benefitting from a collapse in the Labour vote.
Jova - socialism and communism are rather different things - and the Labour party has always been a social democratic party
have they the duty to shout him down, some people may want to listen to what he has to say
TJ what the hell has happend to you? He has a human right not to be assaulted, and you know that.
Odd that no one arrested him, after all that progressive bunch in power at the moment have, as we know, totally restricted the right to protest anywhere near the House of Commons. Commons as in commoners, as in [i]of the people[/i]
Ho hum.
It's good that some people are prepared to protest against fascism, it's a shame that it has to take on a violent edge, I think with a bit of hindsight they should have stood behind Griffin with placards, kept silent and let him have his say, he's going to say it anyway at some point and the UAF wouldn't lose any credibility, in fact they would probably gain some.
Otherwise the only thing that can happen is for it to escalate, which could be nasty and would suit the BNP down to the ground.
He hasn't been assaulted.
It would only give him more amunition, as there is currently a mass demonstration by the Tamils on the square outside parliament, which if the Beeb are to be believed is illegal as there are too many people there, they were only given the right to have 40 people or so demonstrating, but there are many more there, so if they arrested one freely ellected member of the MEP, well, the BNP would have a field day with it.
TJ; It's probably a small point but Stalin was more of a socialist than a communist. Although the USSR was run on communist lines the oligarchy was socialist in nature and exploited its population like any good capitalist state.
In Scotland at least, that can be classed as assault.
So Stalin was a closet Fascist now.
Ok then, North Korea, surely they're not a socialist state
nickc - MemberHe hasn't been assaulted.
Hasn't he? I thought objects were thrown at him. To me (and the law), that is assault. Whether it was right or not is another matter. Ultimately however, it's the people who voted for him who are to blame, not him
By definition don't facists prevent opposing opinions from being voiced?
I found this interesting - from the Beeb
The number of people voting BNP across the UK as a whole went up slightly, from 808,201 to 943,598 in the European elections, but went down slightly in the two regions where it gained MEPs, with the party benefitting from a collapse in the Labour vote.
So in what way does my original post digress from that very point??
I'm sure the people of Germany and Europe who msuffered because of Hitler and his cronies will whole heartedly agree with your opinion G - NOT!
What my opinion which runs along the lines of "for evil to succeed all that is required is for good men to do nothing"??
You consort to an egg layer!
I thought they were a Stalinist state... One of the last ones in the world if I recall.
Fine, then if he feels like he's been assaulted then he can contact the Police and make a complaint about the person that assualted him, just like any normal person can. Although if the likes of Griffin got into power than he'd like it organised so that certain types of folk couldn't get that sort of protection.
So, from where I'm sitting, he got off lightly.
Ok so when does this business of one law for one, and another for others start and finish?? Thats how the likes of the BNP and the Klu Klux clan operate FFS!!!!!
The only real defence is to be even handed and scrupulously so. Nick Griffin is no fool and he will have deleiberately put himself next to the Tamils to provoke an outcome which will show good honest white folk properly elected being shouted down and prevented from having free speech while brown people protesting illegally are allowed to carry on in the background.
I actually totally fail to understand how so many people on here can be such complete arses over these very obvious things.... see where reading the Daily Mail gets you, it eats your brain away from the inside out
[i]which will show good honest white folk properly elected being shouted down and prevented from having free speech [/i]
Being shouted down, and being prevented from having free speech are not the same thing. If Nick Griffin is going to make himself an easy target for protesters than he can't be that surprised when people protest against him.
**** me!
If those hippies are so upset with them getting a couple of seats, why don't they stop messing around with eggs up a party themselves?
Oh, and I'm no supporter of the BNP by a long shot!
WGAS
and the protesters have the right to shout him down - if not the duty.
Actually, the Labour government took away that right - SOCPA. Perhaps that's why he chose to hold the press conference outside Parliament?
You have to defend the right of free speech to those you oppose most like BNP and Griffin. The people have voted he has the right to represent his electors and speak on their behalf. It is what seperates our liberal traditon from the fascists.
Saying that we have a fine tradition of direct protest which I would also heartly support in this case did they hit him?
Were they hard boiled?
Is he hurt?
goog: TPOTTA.....
Were they hard boiled?
Is he hurt?
Were they from brown hens?
can we get a slow hand clap for the woman interviewed on R4 just now for 'unite against fascism'. by all means throw eggs but PLEASE be able to back up your actions by means other then stating over and over again that you are representing the majority against racism.
Understanding of democracy :FAIL: