Yes - that was one moment that pulled me out of the film as internally I said "Peugeot!? wtf?".Drac - ModeratorIt was interesting to see that in the future Peugeot still have electrical problems with their cars.
There was a neon Peugeot sign earlier in the film too.
I missed the pan-am one. Atari was pretty cool though.
Any other Defunct ones?
After all the hype I thought I'd watch the original for the first time.
Some times you have to watch a film in the time it was made to really appreciate it's genius. The brilliance of 'Blade Runner' is that it is visionary; it anticipates a future that has, to some degree, come to pass. Who else in 1982 was talking extensively about climate change and bioengineering?
That said, the 'cult' status that it has earned tells you that a lot of people don't get or share the genius that other people see in it. That's one of the charms of a film like this; it's almost a tribal thing.
I don’t think there will be any more sequels, this one hasn’t done too well at the box office it seems.
I read that a lot of that has been to do with the running time. At three hours, you only have the chacne for one programme session an evening, which limits revenue. But I also guess that being that long will put a lot of people off.
At three hours, you only have the chacne for one programme session an evening, which limits revenue. But I also guess that being that long will put a lot of people off.
Plus the fact that it's of questionable appeal to half the population.
Presumably they'll be making a bit on all the re-watches of the original.
Plus the fact that it's of questionable appeal to half the population.
I don't know if by that you meant 'women' but I have also read that most of the audience have been male. I find that deeply ironic. Here is a film that focuses entirely on the subjective nature of existence and explore our experience of emotion and our ability to be empathic. I'd have thought the appeal would be across both men and women
Presumably they'll be making a bit on all the re-watches of the original.
It's currently showing as one of the more popular downloads on iTunes so yes.
I'm disappointed by the lack of disappointment
Harrison Ford on the franchise - what a minuscule part?
Better that way is it not rather than make another story around Deckard.
Just back from the cinema and disappointed. Too obvious about K's identify and the whole one eyed lady wasn't needed. The soundtrack was !!!! in comparison. The use of snow as opposed to rain in the original was a poor attempt to grab something I can't quite verbalise at 1am.
Thought it was brilliant all round. Really hope they don’t try and franchise it out though.
A bleak depressing monochromatic look into the future....
An apt sequel then.
Not as enjoyable as the first but a suitable follow up.
3/5.
I can't say I'd recommend it to anyone but a fan of the first..
Watched it this arvo, fantastic film. I was worried as the original is one of my faves. Loved it
Was brilliant! Made even more brilliant by the fact we saw it in the IMAX cinema, incredible bass and visually that film was superb
Absolutely loved it, perfect blend of cinematography, score, and acting. Even the missus, who has the attention span of a hamster, was enthralled. Neither of us had seen the original either, suspect we'll need to change that 😀
Just got in from seeing it. Thought the brilliant bits were brilliant, but overall way too long and dragged out.
But actually, better than I expected. Still too long though. This year's 'There Will Be Blood'.
I didn't think it was too long myself. In fact, it flew by, and felt much shorter than it actually was. I can't really think of anything I'd trim as it was all relevant.
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Don't read below if you haven't seen it but I think it's been out long enough and enough discussion already on here that this is OK...
Went to see it last night, have to say I was impressed, visually stunning and with the perfect mix between scale and detail, the environments were not jsut believable but engrossing and truly felt 'real'.
Plot wise I enjoyed it, I think there's enough questions left open, but they also did a neat enough job of giving clues and explanations. One thing that slightly grated is that I wish they hadn't done the flashback scenes, part of me thinks it would have been better if these were left out sot hat the viewer was left to make the connections, but I guess this would have left a risk that people wouldn't have understood?
I also like the contrasting (to the original) idea that K was [i]known [/i]to be a replicant from the beginning, not only does set up his character well but it makes his journey of discovery even more poignant when he starts to think he [i]is [/i]real, and the implications of that to his own survival, coupled with the eventual realisation that he is not the child, love the twists and the turns of emotion that it instills if you really think about it.
I think the Joi character was interesting, and much deeper than it appears at first glance. The concept of an entirely synthetic relationship, form both sides, and whether that is real, and the differing mediums; human, replicant, digital, and whether any of that [i]really [/i]matters... it takes the whole 'what is real' question to another level again.
There's also some interesting juxtapositions with the idea that replicant life is in servitude, and 'less' than real human. Yet K has an apartment, life and privilege beyond many of those around him, especially compared to the orphanage/child labour camp. The intermix of replicant and human life is much deeper than the original film set 20 years before, yet there is still prejudice and he is still viewed as 'lesser'.
I also think his character hits an inflexion point where he goes from a life knowing he is a replicant, where his feelings are subdued, but he still explores them at home, almost like he feels that he shouldn't feel, but knows he can, there's a vulnerability to him 'acting' the part of a loving partner in a relationship behind closed doors after work, but then as the story progresses and he starts to think he might be born, it adds a legitimacy to his existence in hos own mind, he starts to [i]feel [/i]more and it's almost as he he starts to think that he now deserves to feel...interesting stuff 🙂
Could write much more too but have stuff to do!
I didn't think it was too long myself
Got to agree here, I think a lot of modern movies are too short and too fast paced, they don't give you time tor eally think about the cnovepts being raised or take in the environment. That's possibly exactly why they are so fast paced thinking about it... they don;t have enough substance to them so have to be fast paced to keep you interested.
A properly paced, movie with rich and deep topics will keep your interest for longer, and after you've left the Cinema too. In fact at time I found my self having to 'let go' of a thought as a scene changed, before I'd had enough time to wrangle it in my head, that kind of pacing is what will make me want to watch it again and be thinking about it later...
Went to see it again last night after viewing on release date and it impressed me much more .. I think I was able to enjoy the visuals and celebreality of it all much more. The visuals and sound are simply stunning in a decent cinema and it’s so rare that this kind of film gets made any more.
It's not going to earn a great deal in comparison with budget sure, its target demographic is very small and run time too long for the masses but as a piece of art (which is what a movie is right) it's right up there.
I’m going to give it another rewatch whilst it’s still on a bloody big screen and suggest that anyone else does as Blu Ray and 7.1 in your home still will not do it justice.
One of those rare times belief has been suspended for 2.75 hours and I have come away with all sorts of questions about how and what else happens in a fictional reality.
I’m fortunate (I guess) that i get to go to the cinema effectively gratis twice a week, but if you can id urge you to give it another go .. it's either much or even better second time around given your position on first viewing. Besides you will have to wait a long time for a rerelease on the big screen!
I loved it.
I can't claim to represent the views of all women, but I didn't find it overly sexist. I thought the point of his girlfriend being fake was quite an interesting point, and well made.
(Compare this to that dreadful Suicide Squad film, which is universally awful in it's defence, but notable for the point that the only female character spends the whole film talking like an infant and in her underwear, when all the men are wearing coats)
The Trojan Horse reference was very cool too.
I do wonder who this film is being marketed to - all the promos before the film were for stupid mindless comic book films.
[i] I can't really think of anything I'd trim as it was all relevant.[/i]
Thing that stuck in my mind was a lingering shot of the back of Joe's head. Seemed to go on for 10 minutes. One moment I was admiring the symmetry of his hairdo and then he turned slightly and I'm thinking, this is pretentious twaddle. Ok, so it was only one scene, but that it stuck in my memory as being too long, means it was too long for me. You may have seen deeper relevance to the back of his head and that's all well and good for you.
Oh yeah, plus I had some dick sat in front of me coughing every few seconds and fiddling with his hair all the way through. kind of takes you out of the moment. Hopefully the gf will want to go see it so I'll go again. Maybe.
P.S although I am still no clearer on whether Rick Deckard is a replicant.
P.P.S the one off note for me was the Matrix style crew of people wearing eye patches and long black coats, to get in the plot point about the One Girl Baby. My grannie could have written that better, and she's dead.
I'm not going to buck the trend! I thought it was about as good as it could be. Unrelentingly dark and dystopian, a grown-up's film, slightly uncomfortable in places and like other great films lingers in your mind with a touch of ambiguity.
Definitely an acquired taste not for most kids or people with short attention spans. I'll be watching it again.
[i]or people with short attention spans[/i]
It's nearly 3 hours long, so that much is pretty bloody obvious.
A week on and I have to say I've been thinking about this film more than any other in recent years.
I can't believe someone said that Joi was superfluous.
To me, their relationship and subtle transitions [i][b]are[/b][/i] the film!
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From the moment you think about why a replicant would need a fake partner. When you start mulling over how human he is in his needs. Then when he starts to think of himself as 'special' just like humans do and that she also sees specialness in him.
Then we mourn her loss because he/we bought into the thought that she was unique. Then the realisation he's not special and with the giant Joi, that every line she uttered was exactly what he wanted to hear. Even the death 'I love you'.
Quite depressing actually!
I was thinking about how easy it would be to make something like Alexa be slightly more flattering with slightly more memory recall and then how attached people might become to it. We're really in the stages of it being possible right now - in some ways we are already emotionally attached to technology - we just don't think of it as such.
[i]how easy it would be to make something like Alexa be slightly more flattering with slightly more memory recall and then how attached people might become to it[/i]
Yeah, first thing I thought when he started talking to her - like Alexa in 20 years. Really enjoyed that side of the film. Someone early in the thread complained about Joi's inclusion didn't they?
It absolutely could lose 45 mins, but whether that would be in keeping with the Director's vision is in no doubt.
A better way of looking it is could you tell the story better in less time? No doubt there, you could. It doesn't have to be Michael Bay, it just has to be more efficient with screen time.
But being a massive fan of Villenueve if not this film, he nailed the tone of Blade Runner and that is to be slightly incoherent, baggy, ponderous but thick in atmosphere too.
That's just what it is. It's not for me and I think thought it lacked momentum but Blade Runner's fans don't necessarily want this.
It absolutely could lose 45 mins
I nearly didn't go as nearly 3 hours seemed a long time. In reality it flew by and I'd have been happy if it was longer.
for an action film it's so nice not having boring extended fight sequences, to have characters you believe in and a plot that makes sense. Also no explaining of the plot by the characters!
I thought it was near perfect. I loved it.
By the way not sure this is correct
After the huge success of the first one at the box office.
Didn't the first one do pretty badly at the cinema but then grew into a cult classic?
Didn't the first one do pretty badly at the cinema but then grew into a cult classic?
That's what I thought.
I think that was sarcasm"After the huge success of the first one at the box office."
Didn't the first one do pretty badly at the cinema but then grew into a cult classic?
Ahh, I iz stupid 😆
Surprised nobody has managed to explain the cruciality of the lingering back of the head shot yet.
I have no recollection of it. So I was probably deep in thought, or looking at something else on the screen.Surprised nobody has managed to explain the cruciality of the lingering back of the head shot yet.
There wasn't anything else on the screen!
Eddies in the space-time continuum? Think about it - nobody else noticed..
All asleep probably.
I have no recollection of it. So I was probably deep in thought, or looking at something else on the screen.
I have a vague one but really don’t think it was that long at all.
Surprised nobody has managed to explain the cruciality of the lingering back of the head shot yet
What lingering back of the head shot?
I think he means on the balcony just before Joi went outside for the first time.
Gawd knows, but it was just one bit.. oh, I explained it in the earlier post anyway.
Movie was good but the soundtrack was a complete joy. Whole thing was fab
From start to finish,it was total immersion for me.
Fantastic and one of the first films in a long time that I will be going to see again.
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Just for DezB 😉
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You obviously haven't got the attention span to read my full post 😛
My brother actually went out for a smoke at one point and missed the *spoiler alert* ... "synced sex scene" 😆
(Can't read the Wired article as a pop up appears 😐 )
