[Closed] Blade Runner 2049

[i]5* in Empire for what it's worth[/i]

Not a lot! Don't Empire just give everything 5*s?? Did last time I saw it.

Ah, wondered why reviews were appearing. Telegraph gone all existentialist, says trailers bear no real relationship to the film. I'm now wondering if it's all going to be a bit much for the Marvel generation.

Not a lot! Don't Empire just give everything 5*s?? Did last time I saw it.

Well yeah.

Try this - Peter Bradshaw 5*

To be fair Empire tend to give everything 4 stars.

I'm surprised you thought that. I watched it last year and thought it was perfect.

Hardly a definitive work. Apart from the Final Cut that is But messing around 25 years later?

Yup exactly that’s ample time for the nerds to discuss theories.

SFX liked it.

http://www.gamesradar.com/blade-runner-2049-review/

I'm avoiding all reviews cos SPOLIERS, but from what I've gleaned its turned out well. I'll report back next Thursday night when I see it.

Just back, I'm not a fan of the original no matter how many times I attempt to re-watch but I am a fan of Denis Villenueve.

For me it was beautifully crafted (nearly 3 hours) but suffered by being way too ponderous and monotone in its story telling. It is after all a paper thin plot stretched out.

Needed something extra to open out the canvas for a viewer to sink their teeth into. I can cope without exposition and slow pacing but there should've been more.

If you're a Blade runner fan I think you'll love it but this is the first Villenueve film I've not been blown away by.

I predict it's trying to do two things: follow in the footsteps of the original by being a cult hit appreciated years after and setting up a franchise.

I also think it won't do too well at the box office.

I also think it won't do too well at the box office.

Edit: You did reasonably well to avoid spoilers, but it's an almost impossible task as I read far too much into everything, so I'll bow out now!

Considering that I'm going to go and haven't been to the cinema since Django and Drac(?) said he hadn't been for 20 years and is going, I think you might be surprised

I will look out for the extra $30 on the box office takings.

Seriously 20 years. You've missed some good stuff.

Seriously 20 years. You've missed some good stuff.

Mark Kermode is a weather vane for me. If he says it's good then I'll wait for it to come on telly...

I've had a home cinema since 2000, and much prefer that experience normally. And I'm patient/busy enough to watch things when they take my fancy rather than when marketed.

So have I, but some films are worth the extra girth.

There was a time when I hated going to the cinema (too noisy etc) but we have such a good local cinema (walkable and cheap) that I still go quite a bit.

This film is definitely worth a trip for Deakins' fabulous cinematography.

I'll give this a watch when it comes out on showbox, I remember watching the original and i'll watch it again now to get up to speed with the plot.
Which original should I watch tho?

I'll give this a watch when it comes out on showbox, I remember watching the original and i'll watch it again now to get up to speed with the plot.

Do it at least justice and at least pay to see it.

To be honest I'm not that bothered, I wouldn't go to the cinema for a big clock so it'll be on the telly one way or another, just a matter of when and how, if it's xmas in ten years time its no big deal.

namastebuzz - Member
Why can't Hollywood just leave well alone?

The point of mystery/sci-fi is to leave you wondering at the end. Like 2001 A Space Odyssey.

Also just back, IMAX in Glasgow.

I dont really have words yet- stunning, just stunning. In every way. Ryan Gosling can actually act and is very very good indeed. I'm convinced. Visually- I've never seen anything like it. And yet it looks like Blade Runner.....go figure.

All I can really say is that they built a believable world based on Blade Runner and our own world, with logical and consistent extrapolations to a world 30 years later. And a plot that unites the 2 eras wonderfully, with enough resonance for fans of the original and (I think) those who've never seen the first one. You could live in this world.

And the dialogue is just fantastic. The writers made it all sound right and the actors made it pay off, all of them.

Dare I say it....[i]as good as, if not better, than the original[/i] and I think a new high watermark, certainly for science fiction.

At one point, I became self-conscious as my jaw had been hanging open, jaw dropped, for about 10 minutes. But then forgot all about it as something else jaw-dropping started happening.

I was pretty much gobsmacked by how good that was. 🙂

Absolutely blown away by it, soooo relieved!!! Looks like keeping Ridley Scott's hands off the tiller is prob a good idea from now on! 🙂

This film is definitely worth a trip for Deakins' fabulous cinematography.

Quite, it was absolutely stunning!

Looks like there was something good about Alien: Covenant after all!

Scott's commitment to Alien: Covenant (2017) may have forced him to step away from directing Blade Runner 2049 (2017).

http://m.imdb.com/title/tt1856101/trivia?ref_=m_tt_trv_trv

2 meetings in London on Tuesday - tickets for the morning session at the iMax booked!

Saw it last night. Very very impressed. As many others have said, such a Blade Runner atmosphere, good plot with a little bit of twistiness and good acting all round. Mebbes not everyone's cup of tea but a must for sci fi geeks like me.

Kermode review on shortly

I watched yesterday morning at I max 2d, this is how it should be seen, visual and audio joy, the cinematography is memorising, beautiful and blissful. Just watch for this alone.

The pacing of the film will get much criticism as it not the hyperactive marvel film, it is imho wonderfully paced allowing you time to be immersed into the story, the world and importantly the characters.

The plot is either as straightforward or 'as extensional as you wish.some bits in for me I went meh.

Acting is top notch, I like Ryan Gosling ( watch Nice Guysto see the contrast) the Harrison Ford stops being Harrison and acts reminding me that he could act. Strong female characters.

Yeah good good film off to see again tomorrow

I found the story lacking, a basic storyline without the twists of the original, the music, although very good, overpowering in places and overused and the lack of fine detail a great let down - I wanted something I would watch over and over again, each time spotting something new - this sadly isn't it 🙁

Obviously this is just my opinion, you choose to make your own...

I wouldn't go to the cinema for a big clock so it'll be on the telly one way or another

I keep seeing this sentence at the top of the page but I can't work it out- which big clock? Something to do with New Year's?

Watched it last night. Sorry if I'm mentioning any spoilers...

I saw the original before going out which heightened the anticipation.

Audience was ace. No munching or any ambient noise from them. Some Cineworld pass holders walked out as it obviously wasn't their thing.

Saw it in a regular screen which worked really well. No need for any other shenanigans like 3D or moving seats!

Really, really loved the scene where we are introduced to the lady that crafts memories! Great moment.

The score worked well.

I've grown to like Gosling (I quite liked Driver as well).

The film did lovingly linger over its own landscapes a little too much. Outside Vegas was a bit rubbish but hologram Elvis was great in the shootout.

All sorts of interesting characters get introduced but then forgotten. Seems too much about the sequels in that respect!

I reckon a 7 or 8 out of 10 for me.

I keep seeing this sentence at the top of the page but I can't work it out- which big clock? Something to do with New Year's?

To be honest I don't know, its just a saying, like for all the tea in china or something. I [i]think[/i] it might be something I picked up in Liverpool.

Which original should I watch tho?

The Final Cut. It's completely remastered, has various scenes cut from other versions, and is the only version Scott had full creative control over.

Disagree about the directors cut. It doesn't include the introspective narration by deckard which gave the film, for me at least, an engaging quality.

I saw it last night and thought it was excellent, and provides a great companion-piece to the original; Visually, and atmospherically, it was spot-on, with some great performances.

My only complain is the uprising bit in the basement was a bit too Matrix: Reloaded, for me, but that's a minor issue.

I'm off to see it tomorrow. The question is - 2D or 3D ? Will watching in 3D be a lot better or is it just a gimmick ?

I saw it in 2D and didn't miss 3D at all. In fact, I'd say 3D would have spoiled it.

Bladerunner has been my favourite film for as long as I can remember. I think it was about 14 when I first saw it so about four years after its release.

If you're a fan or the original Bladerunner film then the sequel won't disappoint. It is deeply thoughtful, poignant, intelligent and visually and audibly stunning. It is ultimately a continuation of the original themes of what it means to be human and takes that idea into very new territory that is genuinely original. It is easily best seen on the big screen but be prepared to be patient. The narrative story telling takes its time and the pace is one that allows you the opportunity to really think about what it's saying.

It is a wondrous and compelling evolution.

I found the story lacking, a basic storyline without the twists of the original, the music, although very good, overpowering in places and overused and the lack of fine detail a great let down - I wanted something I would watch over and over again, each time spotting something new - this sadly isn't it

I've got to agree with Gil. The fight sequences were overly long, Gosling's acting is wooden, and what's with all the male fantasy/female nudity?

I've also got issues with the plot but I won't go into those as it would take too long to type it all out.

cant read the thread in case of spoilers, but do you have to have seen the original to appreciate this new one?

i think i have seen it, but i dont really remember anything about it....

+1 gentee1972.

Spot on and I'm huge a fan of the first one. Even wrote post-grad essay's on it bitd!
Loved it.

mahalo - yes see the original. Directors or Final Cut.

cant read the thread in case of spoilers,

There aren't any really.

I've not seen the sequel yet but, either way the first one is well worth a watch.

I'm a huge fan of the first film.

I saw 2049 last night, fully expecting to be massively disappointed. I wasn't.

I love the first film as well and the critics reviews of BL2049 gave me hope that it might be at least as good as the original. However having seen it last night in 3D IMax I'm a bit disappointed. The film is at least 30 mins too long with some glaring plot holes and some of the characters appeared to be superfluous (K's "girlfriend"). Positives were the cinematography, CGI and the set design which built on the original. There was an interesting plot twist and a couple of extremely poignant moments. I usually hate Ryan Gosling and every film he's been in but in BL2049 he actually acted a bit and Harrison Ford also remembered how to act. Overall they didn't sully the memory of the first film but it would have been a much better film 30 mins shorter with less self indulgent editing for which I blame Villeneuve who has form (think the snoozefest that was Arrival). It also got me thinking about the original film again and how bloody good that was. Perhaps like Rudger Hauer said they should have left it well alone as a stand alone classic.

I can't decide if I loved the film or not. There certainly were some great things about it as mentioned above but I agree that it's too long (can't think what would be cut though, actually scratch that the scene with Gaff was just indulgent) and the score whilst having some nice references to the original was too loud (could just be the cinema I saw it in) and too Hans Zimmery. Yes Hans I know you like French Horns but really can you try something new?

The other thing that struck me as I was leaving was the promotional material in the cinema. There were three actors on three posters, Ryan Gosling, Harrison Ford & Jarred Leto. As I came out I couldn't help but think that Jarred Leto shouldn't have been on the poster but one of the Female actors should have been there instead (Robin Wright most likely)

some glaring plot holes and some of the characters appeared to be superfluous (K's "girlfriend")

Slight spoiler but isn't she the equivalent of the Unicorn?

Slight spoiler but isn't she the equivalent of the Unicorn?

Having Joi (K's girlfriend) there is about love and humanity existing in yet another form that again also breaks from servitude.