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Wiggins has called Pendleton 'a bit of a milkshake'
Never heard this before, what does it mean?
She doesn't rattle when shaken?
Think its along the lines of "nice but thick" or "tasty but thick".
He's gone down significantly in my estimation recently.
He's gone down significantly in my estimation recently.
He also called 'marginal gains' a load of tosh, so surely that must count for something?
This is what I think of whenever I hear Bradley's name now...
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She brings all the boys to the yard, obviously.
That Skoda ad makes me shout drug cheat at the TV which was a pastime once only reserved exclusively for Alberto Contador. Do with that what you will.
Needs to take a step back and have a look at at himself before he starts badmouthing others.
On a very steep downward trajectory. Gone from mildly amusing, cocky geezer to b*ll*nd in pretty short order, imho.
Needs to take a step back and have a look at at himself before he starts badmouthing others.
On a very steep downward trajectory. Gone from mildly amusing, cocky geezer to b*ll*nd in pretty short order, imho.
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Does seem to love courting controversy these days. I once loved his determination and dedication, sporting wise I still do, his guitar playing and swagger too.. but Brad, why start pissing people off ?
but Brad, why start pissing people off ?
I can sort of get it, if you spent every day of your working life being questioned, having accusations leveled at you, being called a cheat and a fraud how would you react? I think several people posting would probably suggest a union and lawyer for the every day working bloke.
If you read the article, the way it's reported is taken a little out of order and context.
..he says the Milkshake thing in a jokey, familiar kind of way which sort of implies..."yeah,but you've gotta understand Vicky..." sort of thing, I don't think it's intended to be derogatory.
yeah, yeah, but what does 'bit of a milkshake' mean?
Ah well, I didn't read the article and in typical STW fashion became a bit of a keyboard handwringer..
Better to remain silent and let people think you're a fool, than speak up and remove all doubt
bikebouy - Member
Ah well, I didn't read the article and in typical STW fashion became a bit of a keyboard handwringer..POSTED 8 MINUTES AGO # REPORT-POST
nickc - Member
Better to remain silent and let people think you're a fool, than speak up and remove all doubtPOSTED 1 MINUTE AGO # REPORT-POST
Bit harsh.
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'a bit of a milkshake' - internally 'blended' or messed up maybe?
[i]Told that Pendleton said she could never have won all her medals without Peters’ input, Wiggins joked: “But Vicky’s a bit of a milkshake anyway.[/i]
I suspect he is inferring she would have been in need of a psychiatrist if she was a top cyclist or working on a checkout.
He might be right....but was it his place to say it?
[quote=cynic-al said]He's gone down significantly in my estimation recently.
Started with the sleeve tats.
I think it means she doesn't have the need to resort to dodgy TUEs immediately prior to major races.
Of course, I might be wrong... 😉
Also, we all know just [i]exactly[/i] how highly esteemed the women are in british cycling. Brad's a product of this.
He might be right....but was it his place to say it?
I would imagine they know each other fairly well!
Any one have a link to the actual article?
Whether it's done in jest or not BC need comments like that like a hole in the head right now.
Any one have a link to the actual article?
I think it was a taxing interview on that famous bear-bating pit of inquisitive aggression that is Soccer AM. Wiggins used it to make a few oblique comments about how he was going to bring the whole house down when he finally tells his side of the jiffy bag story. I assume he'll manage to criticise BC/Sky without endangering his TdeF or Olympic wins by actually admitting to wrongdoing, so I have managed my expectations.
[url= http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cycling/2017/03/26/sir-bradley-wiggins-says-marginal-gains-load-rubbish-calls-victoria/ ]Link. [/url]
I also read it as "nice but thick".
I don't see much wrong with anything he said in the article to be honest. I don't know what 'milkshake' means, but it just seems like Wiggins is a fairly straight-talker who therefore doesn't do much editing before the words come out.
And I quite agree with his point about marginal gains. At the end of the day, a really successful athlete is someone who has the right combination of talent, mindset, physical skill, and right training. Sure, there may be little things that can help him or her do a bit better, but those must be peripheral at best.
Except in the case of Lance, whose body sounds like something akin to a Novartis storage facility.
People after a link, I read it all here - http://www.eurosport.com/cycling/blazin-saddles-bradley-wiggins-slams-rubbish-marginal-gains_sto6106372/story.shtml - which hits a pretty perfect tone of sardonic digs at Wiggins throughout the article, IMO.
I thought we had Jonathan Vaughters to thank for BW's sudden change into GC winner?
I remember seeing BW, whilst at Cofidis, grinding up in the autobus during S17 of the 2007 TdF on the Port de Pailhères climb - the massive change to [s]2008[/s] 2009, hmmm...
And I quite agree with his point about marginal gains. At the end of the day, a really successful athlete is someone who has the right combination of talent, mindset, physical skill, and right training. Sure, there may be little things that can help him or her do a bit better, but those must be peripheral at best.
I can't see how you can disagree, though I guess it depends what you classify as marginal gains- in a sport where winning margins are 100ths of a second on the track, or tens of seconds on a 3 week Grand Tour, then most any advantage has the potential to help, and to change the result at the pointy end of the field.
In any sport, if you want to win, and you can make a change to improve performance, unless the price (monetary, health, time, legality) is prohibitive then the athlete who really wants to win will make that change.
Brad, why start pissing people off ?
He's trying to find a place for himself post-cycling career, ideally in the meedja.
Perhaps he's had a glance at how much money that Hopkins woman is bringing in as a professional troll, and compared that to how much every other Apprentice reject has made (except maybe that reggae sauce fella).
See also: Piers Morgan
People who've achieved what he has get tv progs made about them, but people always trotting out bland, safe, PR approved platitudes don't get their own series.
So I think that marginal gains are more for other people maybe to justify their jobs. I think it’s true. Fundamentals – talent, hard work and dedication – are more important. Because that 5% on top – that’s not going to make you win the bike race if you don’t have the other 95% underneath.
Well, yes, obviously. But if the other bloke also has the 95%, the 5% suddenly gets more important...
Still, he's got to milk his money from wherever he can these days, he's clearly given the same chat to dozens of other middle-management get-togethers.
"Bit of a milkshake" sounds a lot like he's trying to emulate Shane Sutton in his attitudes and language.
From that Blazin' Saddles piece this is the bit I find confusing too...
It wasn’t, after all, a probing House of Commons anti-doping committee to which Wiggins was inexplicably never invited.
As for marginal gains, the key word is "marginal"... if a mattress gained you 10% performance, Silent Night would be doing jiffy bag deliveries. The thing is that you sleep better in your own bed, in your own room etc so replicating the same thing day in day out across some random hotel is a small benefit. Having a kick ass bus with showers inside, internet etc is a small benefit. They're perhaps not noticeable individually but together they're helping... or the delivery from the women's coach and TUEs are... Brad didn't win a TdF without them.
Oh dear. Seems like he's resentful over the Sky hype and desperate to shore up the credibility of his wins.
The Pendleton comment is very disrespectful IMO, regardless of genders.
He's gone from lovable bell end to embittered bell end. Wonder why that could be, eh?
embittered bell end
Not quite seeing it. What am I missing? (Serious question.)
he's clearly given the same chat to dozens of other middle-management get-togethers.
This. I imagine any chats he has with groups of school kids or the WI might be somewhat different. He presented what his audience wanted to hear.
This. I imagine any chats he has with groups of school kids or the WI might be somewhat different. He presented what his audience wanted to hear.
Like the time he made lewd sex references to the audience at a Charity event for the victims of Child sex abuse?
He got dragged to his TDF win by Froome, and had to use performance enhancing substance as hard as he could within the TUE system to get there. If he was a remotely affable person you might forgive him like David Millar but he's not, I genuinely hope WADA look retrospectively into the misuse of TUE's.
Saxon Rider...
" So I think that marginal gains are more for other people maybe to justify their jobs. I think it’s true. Fundamentals – talent, hard work and dedication – are more important. Because that 5% on top – that’s not going to make you win the bike race if you don’t have the other 95% underneath."
The whole idea is that everyone DOES have the other 95%.
The same with the whole chimp theory – that there’s a chimp living inside you. It never struck a chord with me. The people it struck a chord with are those who made fortunes selling it and telling you it’s the best thing since microwaves.
Not everyone is the same though Bradders.
Later, when she asked Wiggins whether or not he’d be happy if his son was to try his hand at following in his footsteps and becoming a cyclist, Wiggins said: “The way things are going at the moment – no.”
Speaks for itself.
If he was a remotely affable person you might forgive him like David Millar
Oi, who said anyone here forgives that dirty cheating scumbag?
A lot of deep insights into his character given on here. How many of you know him?
How many of you know how much someone's personality can be distorted by even well-intentioned media?
While I wouldn't take such a hard line on Millar, I'd still have more time for Wiggo than him.
Shame the interviewer didn't ask him about DM actually, I get the impression there's no love lost.
The whole idea is that everyone DOES have the other 95%.
Yes, I understand that, but the perception often being put out there is that these instruments for marginal gains work like the old comic books ads,
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whereas in fact, the whole doping question is often one of slight overuse of an antihistamine (or whatever).
In any case, the whole situation just makes me sad, when cycling (of whatever type) and competing on a bike should all be about fun, the virtues of sportmanship, and personal development. To not want your own child to do what you did is a tragic indictment.
The same with the whole chimp theory – that there’s a chimp living inside you. It never struck a chord with me. The people it struck a chord with are those who made fortunes selling it and telling you it’s the best thing since microwaves.
funnily enough I've heard interviews when he's then gone onto pretty much describe the chimp paradox in his own words and how he dealt with it.
Yes, I understand that, but the perception often being put out there is that these instruments for marginal gains work like the old comic books ads,
I haven't seen it portrayed that way.
The notion of marginal gains is dependent on all else being equal, really.
how much every other Apprentice reject has made (except maybe that reggae sauce fella).
That was Dragons' Den
That was Dragons' Den
And the sauce recipe wasn't his or his grandma's, as portrayed in that episode
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/law/2011/nov/16/levi-roots-reggae-reggae-sauce
molgrips - Member
A lot of deep insights into his character given on here. How many of you know him?
How many of you know how much someone's personality can be distorted by even well-intentioned media?
Very much this.
A bit of an unnecessary backlash imo.