Should I challenge my dear aunt on this? She is otherwise a wonderful individual.
If it works for her, why does it matter? I don't believe in homeopathy, but it has worked for me in the past and it clearly works for others.
Challenge? No harm in providing your own opinion.
Why not write down your thoughts on a bit of paper, shred it and waft it in her general direction.
If you can do it without coming across as an arsehole, then go for it.
Pwn her with essence of Bomber.
[url= http://www.theguardian.com/science/video/2010/feb/05/homeopathy-medicine ]Campaigners survive homeopathy mass overdose[/url]
I'm coming round to the idea that if you put stuff out in the (semi) public domain you should expect folks to question it.
Can we do this one again???
I'll probably just post that Mitchel and Webb 'Homeopathic A&E' skit.
Edit - Beaten to it!
Write it down, hole punch the paper and then give her the hole.
Or link this one in. She won't know if you're being funny or serious (or both).
but [s]it has[/s]the placebo affect has worked for me in the past and it clearly works for others
FTFY
If it worked it would be called medicine
The latest is a quote from Gandhi “Homeopathy cures a larger percentage of cases than any other form of treatment and is beyond doubt safer and more economical.”
I've got a lot of respect for Gandhi's views in several fields but medicine isn't one of them.
Who says it's pish and what has it to do with you ?
Who says it's pish
Tim Minchin.
and what has it to do with you
If you've got barmy ideas and you keep them to yourself then it's hee haw to do with anyone. If you start declaring them then you've decided to make it everyones business.
[quote=mikewsmith ]Campaigners survive homeopathy mass overdose
Don't be silly - to get an overdose you'd have grind those pills down and take one speck of the dust.
Tim Minchin is an Australian musician, composer, songwriter, actor, comedian and writer. He has been performing his unique brand of musical comedy in front of appropriately excitable and ever-growing audiences since starting out in South Melbourne’s Butterfly Club in 2005.
Qualfied to comment on homeopathy then?
EDIT
Then again, isn't Mr Minchin's brand of comedy homeopathic - delivered in such small doses it doesn't really have any effect?
Cheers Onzadog - haven't seen that before. Duely posted on FB.
[quote=ChubbyBlokeInLycra ]
Tim Minchin is an Australian musician, composer, songwriter, actor, comedian and writer. He has been performing his unique brand of musical comedy in front of appropriately excitable and ever-growing audiences since starting out in South Melbourne’s Butterfly Club in 2005.
Qualfied to comment on homeopathy then?
As qualified as a homeopathist is to talk about medicines.
grum will be along any minute to talk about clairvoyance, divining etc
Who says it's pish
Science does. The amounts of active ingredient involved are so small that the 'medicine' can't possibly have any effect and is indistinguishable from water, or sugar pills
and what has it to do with you ?
People promoting anti-scientific nonsense isn't a good thing and should be challenged.
Would you be happy if one of your relatives was promoting crystal healing, past-life regressional therapy, clairvoyance, or divining? What if it stops them seeking proper medical help for a serious condition?
Respect their views.
[quote=grum ] healing, past-life regressional therapy, clairvoyance, or divining?
See - I [i]knew[/i] you were going to write that!
Respect their views.
I respect respectable views.
Respect their views.
Why?
See - I knew you were going to write that!
🙂
I would ensure I was fully aware of all the important facts first !
1/ Is she wealthy
2/ Has she made out a will yet
3/ Are you in the will
4/ If not are you likely to be in it
If all the above are negative, fill your boots and give her the tongue lashing you obviously want to !
Nowt worse than a Nellie Know It All. 😛
Nowt worse than a Nellie Know It All.
Yes I hate it when people post stuff based on reason and critical thinking rather than superstition and myth.
You can prove anything with facts. 😉
As qualified as a homeopathist is to talk about medicines.
So not at all then?But if you're going to discuss this with someone who believes in homotherapy/crystals/black magic, why not take an unfunny "comedian" as a starting point, that'll strengthen your argument no end
[quote=cheekyboy ]I would ensure I was fully aware of all the important facts first !
1/ Is she wealthy
2/ Has she made out a will yet
3/ Are you in the will
4/ If not are you likely to be in it
If all the above are negative, fill your boots and give her the tongue lashing you obviously want to !
Though if it's a homeopathic will, the best thing might be to make sure she doesn't like you.
If water has memory why doesn't it all taste of piss?
Any that hasn't been passed through an animal will have nicely diluted all that that has, hence increasing the potential to taste like piss.
Buy some Rescue Remedy and a copy of Ben Goldacre's book.
Tell her you will use the rescue remedy for a month if she reads Bad Science, then you can both sit down for a coffee in a few weeks to discuss your respective findings 🙂
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www.howdoeshomeopathywork.com
She feels better. Leave her to it. Why go to pains to try and undo any good it might be doing her, even if it is just some sort of placebo effect? Life is too short.
CG, in your view, does respecting somebody's views necessarily mean not challenging them when you disagree?Respect their views.
You can challenge views and still be respectful. Just don't be an arse about it.
cheekyboy - Member
...give her the tongue lashing you obviously want to
FFS, it's his aunt!
You people disgust me.
Although if you have any pictures......
Simple rule
Religion/Crazy ideas about Homeopathy/Other wacky stuff are like having an enormous penis, feel good about it yourself share it in private but don't go waving it round in public or trying to shove it in other peoples faces.
cinnamon_girl - Member
Respect their views.
I respect that they can have that view, I do not have to respect the view itself. Spout it in public and you get challenged, just like the people who post this stuff
http://www.snopes.com/
Some painkillers don't work unless the patient knows they are taking them.
If folk thinks it helps them leave them to it.
I saw it work. I didn't believe it at all before but give it more repect now.
If it gave a cure for her let her feel good. If she is just trying to make money then question away
It's your civic duty as a rational member of society to denounce all anti science like Homopathy.
One little comment, on a Facebook page none of us has seen, by a person we haven't met, reinterpreted by a stranger on the internet is having a measurable effect on this forum... Makes you think... 😉
I read over the weekend that homeopathic practitioners in India are going to be allowed to prescribe real drugs now. That did worry me.
If folk thinks it helps them leave them to it.
I would offer the same nonchalant response if the 'practitioner' explained "t[i]here's no evidence for this working, but the possible positive effects you feel are likely due to the interaction you and I are having, coupled with your desire/confirmation bias for a treatment to work. Modern evidenced based medicine may be proven more effective to work, but I see you are looking for alternative ideas, which may put you off proven medical treatments. However, I'd advise a medical review if things get worse..."[/i]
But they don't.
So I wont.
DrP
Some painkillers don't work unless the patient knows they are taking them.
Really, which ones? At link to the published paper?
Thing is they would have had to pass medical trials including double blind trials, I.e. People wouldn't have know they were taking them, so just wondering how they passed....
As a multiple cancer surviver with a wife who runs clinic trials, I'm a bit of a fan of "proper" medicine.
