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"He told me I should have a health warning because my backside was going to cause an accident," she said.

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Posted : 13/06/2021 8:58 am
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From the road.cc article this appears to have come from.

https://road.cc/content/news/female-cyclist-confronts-man-who-made-sexual-remarks-her-283899

“This was the second occasion of harassment I’d received that afternoon having had another man shout that he was going to ‘f*ck me in the arse’,” she continued.

Disgusting behaviour, just another example of the effects of the mainstream medias othering, in combination with knuckle dragging misogynistic bullshit


 
Posted : 13/06/2021 9:14 am
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Hats off to her for confronting him. Shouldn’t have blurred his face out though. He deserves to be shamed.


 
Posted : 13/06/2021 9:34 am
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I remember seeing a yt video of a woman cyclist being harassed by some men in a white van.

She had the last laugh as she punched off the wing mirror of their van,and the motorcyclist behind who had filmed the whole thing told them they deserved it.

It is a shame that this goes on but hopefully videos will shame the perps.


 
Posted : 13/06/2021 9:40 am
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She had the last laugh as she punched off the wing mirror of their van,and the motorcyclist behind who had filmed the whole thing told them they deserved it.

I remember that one. Criminal damage is never the "right" answer but it was deserved


 
Posted : 13/06/2021 10:11 am
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She had the last laugh as she punched off the wing mirror of their van,and the motorcyclist behind who had filmed the whole thing told them they deserved it.

Whilst I agree with the message, I think that video was staged.


 
Posted : 13/06/2021 10:44 am
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Hats off to her for confronting him. Shouldn’t have blurred his face out though. He deserves to be shamed.

Absolutely. Sex pests should be publicly shamed.


 
Posted : 13/06/2021 10:47 am
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If she got him on video, I wonder if the police would be interested in having a chat with him?


 
Posted : 13/06/2021 10:51 am
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I once had a comment regarding “look at the arse on her” as I rode past. I think he was a little shocked at the beard when I turned my head. His mates seemed to laugh at him not me. To be fair, I may have let my hair go a little early Nader the helmet.

Still it’s just not acceptable behaviour.


 
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Posted : 13/06/2021 11:51 am
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"I wonder if the police would be interested in having a chat with him?"
If she smashed off his wing mirror it's more likely they'd want to talk to her too, and she could well be charged with criminal damage.


 
Posted : 13/06/2021 11:52 am
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I meant the original one, not the wing mirror smashing.


 
Posted : 13/06/2021 12:16 pm
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I’m going for stages purely because I doubt there are many people who could smash a wing mirror off. They are quite well bolted on


 
Posted : 13/06/2021 12:19 pm
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The mirror one was staged. Iirc it was a social media company showing they could make something for viral


 
Posted : 13/06/2021 12:22 pm
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Wasn't it a forumite from here who smashed a Transit mirror off?


 
Posted : 13/06/2021 1:22 pm
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I’ve taken a wing mirror off in anger and it’s not that difficult. Don’t condone it but it’s all some understand. Criminal damage or not. In the heat of the moment it seemed preferable to gbh. Also been clipped by someone with no spacial awareness resulting in it happening. The second one was rather hurty and destroyed one of my grips.


 
Posted : 13/06/2021 1:28 pm
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Hit the mirror with a downward strike, not a sideways one. They cant fold and will often break.


 
Posted : 13/06/2021 1:58 pm
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Ignoring all the bullshit/fake video/wing mirror distractions on the thread (well done Alpin, really don't think that video was needed).. I'm sure female cyclists have had to put up with this kid of crap for decades. The only good thing about this is that the "me too" generation, for want of a better description now have to confidence to confront the sexist morons AND report it. That has to be a change for the good I reckon.


 
Posted : 13/06/2021 2:49 pm
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Im so glad this story has made the news and I hope the driver gets fined or something. I reported a driver recently who was forced to either gets points or attend a driver awareness course.


 
Posted : 13/06/2021 2:59 pm
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Putting a foot through a door mirror works, apparently...

But as DezB states I'm glad people are raising these issues and we need to stand with them and call this behaviour out.


 
Posted : 13/06/2021 3:03 pm
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I think we just need a wing mirror tax. It should apply to harassment, close passes (especially oncoming close passes), common ****tery at crossings, and parking on pavements.


 
Posted : 13/06/2021 3:06 pm
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Just "common ****tery" on it's own should be made an offence 👍


 
Posted : 13/06/2021 3:13 pm
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Common ****tery definitely needs to become a real offence. As per others I’m just glad this is getting attention.


 
Posted : 13/06/2021 3:17 pm
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Dezb +1.


 
Posted : 13/06/2021 3:18 pm
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Cardiff cyclist confronts driver who sexually harassed her

How about "Victim confronts sexual harasser", the fact that she is a cyclist is incidental to the story and while it is fine to mention what she was doing at the time in the article, it distracts from the story IMO to label her by her activity.

Unfortunately by attaching her to a "separate group" from most readers it creates barriers to understanding the problem. I wish the media would just give a little more thought to such labels and how it divides when what is needed is a bit of togetherness and understanding.


 
Posted : 13/06/2021 6:14 pm
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She deserves a pat on the bum for bravado 😉


 
Posted : 13/06/2021 6:23 pm
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I've taken a transit mirror off when it left hooked me. Not great when you are doing 25 mph on a road bike. One broken wrist and a broken bike, but I got his mirror. Driver legged it.


 
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Unfortunately by attaching her to a “separate group” from most readers it creates barriers to understanding the problem. I wish the media would just give a little more thought to such labels and how it divides when what is needed is a bit of togetherness and understanding.

Possibly its a deliberate act to appear to all sides, and raise contempt for cyclists, or cyclists against drivers as entitled. Papers do this all the time. More clicks and sod the actual point.


 
Posted : 13/06/2021 6:35 pm
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@plus-one that's a minus one from me, I guess you're being funny, but....

And Chrispo, that is sexual harassment. Wolf whistling has been called out so why would you think that was acceptable?

Why small mind blokes can't stop their brain farts from squeaking out is beyond me.  I'll be honest I process similar sid james thoughts on occasion, but never do I verbalise them.  It's not difficult..


 
Posted : 13/06/2021 7:12 pm
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Only this week my pal was cycling along a country road in Lincolnshire when he heard his wife , who was behind, squeal out. Yoofs in a hatchback roared past with one struggling to get back in the passenger window, he had slapped my mates wife on the backside , pretty hard apparently. he was so concerned at her outburst that he didn't get their number , unfortunately.


 
Posted : 13/06/2021 7:34 pm
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Yes I’m being totally silly !! But !! Sometimes the lines blur excessively 🙁


 
Posted : 13/06/2021 7:39 pm
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As a cyclist experiencing imaginary/fantasy OOBE, am often taken by the perverse and mildly corrective desire to slap my own fat cycling arse. Happily, I thinknto day that such errancy doesn’t translate into real life, and neither (gods forbid) towards acting upon any (even half-buried) impulse to smack a random pedaller’s lower cheeks.

This uncomfortably candid announcement was brought to you by Sunday & beer.


 
Posted : 13/06/2021 7:42 pm
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@chrispo

So on a sliding scale how bad does it have to be before it is sexual harassment? Do the comments have to be more sexualised? Mild touching never really hurts?

Unless you've had your head in a hole for the last few weeks - since the murder of Sarah Everard has brought into stark relief - our wives, girlfriends, daughters, sisters are being harassed routinely by idiots that think it's a compliment, a bit of banter. And people like you are facilitating it with comments like yours.

I suspected the same as rogermoore when you posted the story without comment, that you were aiming for clicks. I didn't respond but now see you've doubled down and confirmed it.

Misogyny, pure and simple. By them, and you.


 
Posted : 13/06/2021 7:56 pm
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Don’t talk shit Chrispo.

You’re hopeful. 😀


 
Posted : 13/06/2021 8:01 pm
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Yeah, sorry CZ. I should know better than to engage with the bellends.


 
Posted : 13/06/2021 8:02 pm
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he had slapped my mates wife on the backside , pretty hard apparently.

This happened to my other half too. Hard enough that by the time she got home, half an hour later, there was still a recognisable handprint with 5 fingers there.

Despite having the van reg and video evidence that it had followed her up the road from a village Derbyshire (mostly) and S. Yorks police managed to do sweet FA about it.


 
Posted : 13/06/2021 8:08 pm
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I remember seeing a yt video of a woman cyclist being harassed by some men in a white van.

She had the last laugh as she punched off the wing mirror of their van,and the motorcyclist behind who had filmed the whole thing told them they deserved it.

It is a shame that this goes on but hopefully videos will shame the perps.

That was a well known fake filmed for some marketing campiagn.


 
Posted : 13/06/2021 8:13 pm
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Damn good job the lady in question was a competent cyclist , the consequences of a rider going down under such an assault does not bear thinking about ne'er mind the unwarranted and unquestionable fact that it is sexual assault, no ifs no buts lads.


 
Posted : 13/06/2021 8:18 pm
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Despite having the van reg and video evidence that it had followed her up the road from a village Derbyshire (mostly) and S. Yorks police managed to do sweet FA about it.

you sound surprised. What did you think they would do? At best they could talk to the driver but that wouldn’t get them any closer to who hit her unfortunately


 
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Some bloke that I used to teach guitar once called me on a Monday evening to cancel his lesson. He worked on sites so was often travelling a few hours away from home to work. Anyway, this one particular evening on the way home he'd got into a beef with a cyclist. He'd left his keys in the ignition, and the cyclist promptly grabbed them and lobbed them into the field they were pulled up next to 😂


 
Posted : 13/06/2021 10:57 pm
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Derbyshire (mostly) and S. Yorks police managed to do sweet FA about it.

To be fair to S Yorks police, they did all they could, but it was the wrong side of the county boundary.

They came and talked to me as soon as they could, traced the van etc, and then realised that due to the location of the assault they weren’t able to take it any further. They passed all the information to Derbyshire police, who gave the case to someone who was about to go on leave. When the Derbyshire guy finally got round to doing something about it almost 2 months later, the owner of the van said “I’ve only just bought it” and the police closed the case as the van was untaxed and uninsured at the time of the incident so they “couldn’t do any more”.

I don’t know if S Yorkshire police did anything about the untaxed / uninsured offence, but they came across as a lot more proactive about the assault than the Derbyshire lot.


 
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Was just putting the other point of view, held by quite possibly the majority in the real world.

Turns out this mildly Clarksonian take was too offensive to remain on view.

Yet it is fine to call people and their spouses stupid ****s on here.

It’s PC gone mad, I tell you.


 
Posted : 14/06/2021 2:51 pm
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I don't mind saying, I reported the post.

I asked it not be taken down, but instead maybe a response from one of STW lady staffers might be appropriate whether they think it's just bantz, however the mods said that many on here had already responded appropriately.

I don't care whether others think it's acceptable, it's not. As I said before how bad does it have to be before it is sexual harassment? Do the comments have to be more sexualised? Mild touching never really hurts? C'mon, where's your line?

Your views are misogynist, simple as. Like Clarkson, FWIW.


 
Posted : 14/06/2021 3:02 pm
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Was just putting the other point of view, held by quite possibly the majority in the real world.

Given there are more women than men in the UK, by almost a million, I reckon you’re on shakey ground there. That’s without counting men who aren’t trapped in the 70’s.


 
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It’s PC gone mad, I tell you.

As my comment was also deleted as I quoted your offensive text, I’ll say it again. You are part of the problem.


 
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