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Vive la revolution (ya bawbags)!!
Zut alors!
Of course, us Froggies have always had a soft spot for Les Ecossais. Enemy of my enemy and all that 😉
If they are supposed to give equal weight to any view then you run into the problem of giving equal airtime to creationists as you do scientists, or holocaust deniers and credible historians.
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This is correct.
The majority of Scots don't support independence and the weight of arguments favours remaining in the UK. In my opinion the BBC gives far too much favourable coverage to the yes campaign.
Oh god, have they not had the bloody vote yet............... 🙄
Yes, we did and it was resoundingly in favour of a French forum. Now give us what we voted for!
The majority of Scots don't support independence and the weight of arguments favours remaining in the UK. In my opinion the BBC gives far too much favourable coverage to the yes campaign.
Bit of a circular argument though. If the BBC coverage always favours one side over the other how the other side hope to catch up to sway public opinion to get the extra coverage?
the weight of arguments favours remaining in the UK
That's very debatable given how little actual facts are on the table.
As the polls seem to indicate that the independance campaign will lose, seems to me that they are lining up their excuses.
If they do reject independance, I hope it is by a convincing majority or this navel gazing belly aching will come back to haunt us every couple of years until Salmond gets his way, regardless of the democratic views of his people
Yes, we did and it was resoundingly in favour of a French forum. Now give us what we voted for!
Pardon!
C'est exact.
La majorité des Ecossais ne soutiennent pas l'indépendance et le poids des arguments faveurs restants au Royaume-Uni. À mon avis, la BBC donne beaucoup trop de couverture favorable de la campagne du oui.
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Robespierre is dans le house!
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I really must borrow the wife's hair straighteners! 😉
BBC bias - Scottish independence content
Could just as easily be
Newsnetscotland bias - Scottish independence content
Newsnetscotland bias - Scottish independence content
Aye, pretty sure they're a pro yes blog/news site. But the paper itself is from an academic. He'd have to be very brave or silly to release something that was fiddled to show bias.
Grum - ad hoc vox-popping and polling in the street on something so sensitive would be editorial suicide however you conducted it. It's a complete no-win situation.
OK maybe a bad example.
What if you decided to do a feature on how business leaders feel about independence - you contact a few of the largest scottish companies to see if anyone will come on to do an interview - the only people who are willing to come on are strongly anti-independence. Is it then biased to only reflect those views in the interviews?
Hardly. Just look at the statements - they're hardly exact in terms of what is considered positive or negative.
The basic problem is the lack of an English parliament without which they keep trying to lay claim to the British parliament at Westminster.
Without addressing this issue there will be no settlement within the UK, whether the Scots choose independence or not.
Once the English, who unwittingly lost their independence on 1707 at the same time the Scots knowingly have it up, have an assembly or parliament like the Scots, Welsh and Northern Irish, the he West Lothian question and 90% of the other frictional issues would melt away.
An English assembly might be based somewhere in the centre of England,say Manchester or York, and would help move political and economic power away from the south coast - highly desirable in this day and age.
We could also cement what has been a mutually beneficial union (in economic terms at least) for over 300 years, by building HS2 in the right place, linking Manchester, Leeds, York, Newcastle, Edinburgh and Glasgow in a big circle, complementing the existing express lines into London on the west and east coasts.
Anything else I need to cover?
Oh yes, 29ers and 26ers are both good but I just don't get 650b.
" winston_dog - Member
I'm sorry but a University that describes Paisley as:
Paisley - Urban, Contemporary, Dynamic
cannot be taken seriously! "
I'm sorry - any moron that thinks an evidence based report is somehow overridden by their personal opinion of something written on the web cannot be taken seriously.
I think thats fair if it was done without 'adding another layer'
Eg. Scottish parliamentary seats should have one MP who sits in the Scottish parliament for devolved issues, but also represents and votes as part of the westminster parliament on reserved and national issues - rather than the current system.
[b]BBC bias[/b] - Scottish independence content
A year-long academic study carried out by researchers at a Scottish university has revealed that both the BBC [b]and STV[/b] have been favouring the No campaign in their TV news coverage of the independence referendum.
BBC in headline even though body text refers to BBC and another media outlet - no anti BBC bias there then is there.
Paisley - Urban, Contemporary, Dynamic
Home of some top notch comedians, especially the one that thought that up.
I'm sorry - any moron that thinks an evidence based report is somehow overridden by their personal opinion of something written on the web cannot be taken seriously.
Have you ever been to Paisley?
I'm sorry - any moron that thinks an evidence based report is somehow overridden by their personal opinion of something written on the web cannot be taken seriously.
You mean like the "evidence based" report of those weapons of mass distraction that saddam husein had?
BBC in headline even though body text refers to BBC and another media outlet - no anti BBC bias there then is there.
Fair point. But people (perhaps wrongly) expect more from the BBC.
I find Alex Salmon heavily biased in favour of the Yes campaign. Surely he should campaign for both sides equally......
This looks fairly pro-independence.
[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-24866266 ]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-24866266[/url]
The netnewsscotland website is run by the despicable cybernats. It shouldn't be give any rational consideration as anything other than low rent propaganda.
I expected more of the OP.
This looks fairly pro-independence.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-24866266
if that's the conclusion you draw, great, but that article is just stating facts. Pretty objective I thought. The piece from UWS looks at hundreds of articles, one doesn't prove or disprove anything.
The netnewsscotland website is run by the despicable cybernats. It shouldn't be give any rational consideration as anything other than low rent propaganda.
Anyone who refers to either the Yes or No campaigns by such childish nicknames such as cybernats doesn't deserve a lot of time. I expected more from STW posters.
Hmm Scottish independance
Will it change my life? No
Will I still have Scottish friends and relatives? Yes
OK can we move on now?
Est-ce que j'ai raté le bus pour le forum Francais?
Oui, le bus est déjà parti. vous avez eu à payer pour cela aussi !!! 😉
(Odd how autospell changes oui into ouija - spooky)
OK can we move on now?
Are you trying to stifle the debate? yes? Good man, let's everyone just shut up and we'll see what happens come the vote.
With the polls as they are these stories will continue to proliferate.
Forget the Wallace stuff! The price of independence? 52% of scots would vote yes if they were £500 better of.
But only 9% reckon that they will be. Time for more smoke and mirrors. Cue the university of (where was it?)...
igm - Member
The basic problem is the lack of an English parliament without which they keep trying to lay claim to the British parliament at Westminster.
Without addressing this issue there will be no settlement within the UK, whether the Scots choose independence or not...
That is really the basic issue which should have been addressed 150 years ago.
The Irish might still be with us if the UK had acted like a federation of states.
It's too late now though, and the Scots will be waving goodbye come September.
As for the polls, for years these repeatedly have told us the SNP is going down the gurgler, yet somehow it keeps increasing its vote, so the only poll that matters is the real one.
Le bus est arrived dans le stop. Alons-y, my amis!
Epicyclo - absolutely. I was thinking of the top room in the Dublin municipal museum (don't know the correct name) when I wrote it.
For those who don't know it tells the story of the fifty years or so leading up to Easter 1916 and is very sobering when you look at Scotland today.
For the record, Yorkshire based Scot, no vote, against independence.
It's a tartan Question Time on BBC 1 tonight. Time for some independence BS bingo!!!! (Not just from the yes camp!!)
Just for good measure http://www.scotsman.com/news/pete-martin-newspapers-united-on-the-referendum-1-3280657
Pour tous mes amis de langue française bonne chance avec votre nouveau forum. Bien qu'il y ait une alternative .... si vous pensez qu'un fil est ennuyeux de ne pas ouvrir 😉
Braveheart sur film 4 maintenant..Channel 4 est biaisé
The netnewsscotland website is run by the despicable cybernats
Aha, I detect a Daily Mail reader 😉
http://wingsoverscotland.com/the-bully-pulpit/
bencooper. Look at reluctantlondoners post again, then look at your link again. Need I say more???
Oh, was he being ironic?
Aha, I detect a Daily Mail reader
Shock horror! The Daily Mail publishes some crap journalism!
SO if we think the Yes argument is flawed we must be Daily Mail readers?
No, it was the keyword "cybernats" that amused me.
How about "project fear"?
Plenty of nobbery on both sides of this campaign. Sadly.
The netnewsscotland has plenty of the romantic pish that the "Nats" claim isn't used in their argument.
[url= http://newsnetscotland.com/index.php/affairs-scotland/8612-robert-burns-on-independence ]Robert Burns on Independance[/url]
FFS! 🙂