[Closed] BAN TRUMP FROM THE UK PETITION

Scott Adams (Dilbert) has a track record of bellendery.

Do people not know that [Trump] has been bankrupt multiple times

He has never been declared personally bankrupt only a number of his companies or ones that bore his name/brand.

I do wonder if he actually wants to be President. Maybe it was "I'll stick my hat in the ring, get loads of publicity, then piss off', and it has got out of hand. Now is trying to bale on the whole thing by saying increasingly stupid things.
Being President would get in the way of his golf (which I suspect he cares more about)..

I must have some kind of lazy/broken brain issue, because I keep seeing this thread title as BAN TRUMP FROM THE KITCHEN.

Can’t we have one petition to ban everything?

It would save a lot of time.

The other petition has worked:

https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/news/aberdeen/775538/donald-trump-stripped-robert-gordon-university-honorary-degree/

290k votes so far...

The petition is daft, it is like fighting stupid with stupid. The only winner is, well, stupid.

Has he played his Trump card? 😆

What's with this petition?

Can we petition this and that please... 😆

I've just heard he'd pulled out of golf course development in Argyll, citing fears about the radical Mullah Kintyre...

Cougar - Moderator
I've just heard he'd pulled out of golf course development in Argyll, citing fears about the radical Mullah Kintyre...

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lol @Cougar 🙂

I see Katie Hopkins hasn't managed to squeeze enough publicity juice out of this yet, so she is now claiming that London IS radicalised and that [i]"a quarter of the population here in the U.K. are right behind Donald Trump"[/i].

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That sounds like a threat to me.

Over 420,000 so far.

Well, in terms of potential lives lost, the terror suspects returning from Iraq/Syria are probably less dangerous…

Rachel

Good grief.

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allthegear - Member

Well, in terms of potential lives lost, the terror suspects returning from Iraq/Syria are probably less dangerous…

Rachel

Really? In what sense? 😯

Yes, chewkw, I stand by that.

So called “islamic terrorism”, with the exception of 9/11, has killed what, a few dozen people in the last few years? It’s nothing, not even noticeable, compared to general gun crime in US.

A Trump Presidency will lead to such things as worse healthcare, worse equality and worse income for the lower, more marginalised sections of society - it will kill many, many more than terrorists ever did.

Rachel

The petition is daft, it is like fighting stupid with stupid. The only winner is, well, stupid.

^^^^ That!

it amounts to:

"Trump" Trump in order to show that our morals trump Trump's

Well, if you read the full text of the petition, it’s asking for there to be consistency in the banning orders, not “trumping Trump”.

If someone is spreading messages that this country deems unacceptable, they should be unacceptable no matter who is saying them.

Rachel

So called “islamic terrorism”, with the exception of 9/11, has killed what, a few dozen people in the last few years? It’s nothing, not even noticeable, compared to general gun crime in US.

I am fully in favour of dangerous and violent extremists who have been active in Iraq or Syria being arrested upon their return to the UK.

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From Katie Hopkins latest DM column;

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*reaches for mind bleach*

Rachel, it's not a few dozen, sadly.

Some facts and figures here. [url= http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/nov/18/fivefold-increase-terrorism-fatalities-global-index ]Terrorism -The Guardian [/url]

Is that supposed to be "imagining" rather than "imaging"? Or does she really mean that she and trump could be run through a photocopier while shouting in the rain? Does she or anyone else read her stuff before it's shoved up on the web?

Rusty - whether it’s correct to call many of those terrorism or more likely civil war is debatable. In any case, I was talking of the terrorism in EU/US.

If we’re going to include all mentioned in your article, then we also have to include all warfare, including that dished out by our own armed forces.

I don't think the victims would be particularly bothered with semantics tbh Rachel.

allthegear - Member

Yes, chewkw, I stand by that.

So called “islamic terrorism”, with the exception of 9/11, has killed what, a few dozen people in the last few years? It’s nothing, not even noticeable, compared to general gun crime in US.

Gun crimes usually related to drugs me think with the exception of few trigger happy cops. Therefore, if they are drugs related then it's just part of naturally evolution really.

I cannot see the reason for linking gun crimes to Trump as Merican has been shooting their way through the history so why change?

A Trump Presidency will lead to such things as worse healthcare, worse equality and worse income for the lower, more marginalised sections of society - it will kill many, many more than terrorists ever did.

Rachel

Also Merican kicked your backside long time ago to reject your value so you want to instill yours on them again?

What's with this fascination about death? Human like to cull each others that is the fact. Death is everywhere around us so what's this trying to make people live forever ... how do you feed them? They are going to eat all the entire planet dry and the endangered animals to extinction.

I was meaning the US healthcare system - I never mentioned the NHS

Also - WTF are you on about in that last para? You’re happy for people to cull each other????

Rachel

Rachel - I'd ignore chewkw - no good comes of engaging...

allthegear - Member
I was meaning the US healthcare system - I never mentioned the NHS

You cannot expect their healthcare system to deal with everyone and even NHS cannot cope.

Also - WTF are you on about in that last para? You’re happy for people to cull each other????

Rachel

If they are [u]determine[/u] to cull each other who are going to stop them?

wwaswas - Member
Rachel - I'd ignore chewkw - no good comes of engaging...

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sorry but it just degenerates into zombie brain maggots and incomprehensible conspiracy theories.

It's like talking to a voodoo JHJ.

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Ironically undercooked meat deaths aren't that rare then?

allthegear - Member

So called “islamic terrorism”, with the exception of 9/11, has killed what, a few dozen people in the last few years? It’s nothing, not even noticeable, compared to general gun crime in US.

Forget about gun crime- financial crime kills more people than islamic terrorism, in the west.

Gun crimes usually related to drugs me think with the exception of few trigger happy cops

That's almost certainly not true. The vast majority of deaths from guns in the US is suicide, double the figure for killings.

If you're looking solely at actual homicides, a quick Google would suggest somewhere in the region of 20% are drugs-related, though that's a difficult statistic to pin down with any degree of accuracy. And "trigger-happy cops" is just Mail-eqsque hyperbole, police shootings and other accidents is about 3%.

I think you'll find that some Americans will say their tight border controls and surveilance at home plus aggressive action abroad has kept them safe at home. Hence limited domesric terrorist deaths.

I see the 30,000 gun deaths is still being talked about. As I said thats 20,000 suicides plus a lot of criminal on criminal killings all with illegal weapons.

Plus what Americans do about gun control and domestoc terrorism is their business not ours. Just imagine how the voices of Europeans telling Americans how they should run their society goes down - answer like a lead balloon. They will say STFU and mind your own business as without us you'd all be speaking German.

STFU and mind your own business as without us you'd all be speaking German

you clearly have a greater confidence in the British ability to learn foreign languages than I do - it’s only been 70 years!

Rachel

I think the best thing to do is let Paxman in full attack dog mode get at him!

Or would that just be too cruel....?

I think you'll find that some Americans will say their tight border controls and surveilance at home plus aggressive action abroad has kept them safe at home.

So why do they want to spend $6 billion on building a wall between themselves and Mexico then?

EDIT : To be fair you did say "some Americans". Who did you have in mind - Donald Trump?

@allthegear, my point is "Euro Liberals" complaining about Trump just plays right into his hands. We might think the NHS is great but most Republicans (and many Democrats) think its a total disaster providing second rate care. Irs a different political landscape thats my point. Look at his Twitter post about Katie Hopkins, he well kniws that will wind up us "Liberals" even more and make him more popukar amongst hus supporters

@ernie, Trump has suggested Mexico pays for the wall extensions (as walls alreadynexist) in return for the free trade agreement that exists 😯

Trump is nuts, we are just helping him by reacting

he well kniws that will wind up us "Liberals"

So why are most "Liberals" here laughing at him?

Trump just plays right into his hands

Really?

How?

You might argue that any publicity is good publicity, but I'd counter that anyone with half a brain can see Trump for the dangerous loon he is. The closer to the light he's held the more easy it will be for folks to see through him.