[Closed] Bambi Pic - The Deer Hunter

CaptainFlashheart - Member
Hmmmm, venison....yum.

Just remember, you can't say Muntjac without saying Mmmmmm...

PS. - Schroedingers Cat's comments +1, and thats from another stalker... no need Toys 😐

Here's how to decide if it was relevant.

Has the description of approaching from downwind, moving slowly, and keeping still and allowing them to approach you been enhanced in any way by the inclusion of the subsequent shooting?

Would you respond to a post 'I'm too shy with girls, any tips for approaching and making conversation with them' with a description of your bedroom technique as well? 😉

I stalk, I'm not being a pious moralist, it's nothing to do with "stomaching it" your langauge and description of the kill(s) were simply a little emotive and not really required to make your point and did come across as a little gloaty on a forum largely populated by people who don't shoot things, regardless of the rights or wrongs of field sports.

Well that might be how you read it, but it's not how I wrote it. I don't give a damn if you are a stalker or not. If illustrating a point by a successful action is gloaty than how the hell is anyone supposed to believe that the method will work? If I said "use these techniques and here is an example of how they work, except I failed" then you would say "obviously not a good method". The truth is you could say I was not being aware of how people might feel, but the reality is I don't give their feelings a second thought, apart from the vegans who I apologise whole heartedly to. I care an awful lot about animal welfare I'm very choosy about where my meat comes from. I was brought up in an agricultural environment so I am fully aware of what farming and the countryside is really about.

toys19 I disagree completely, this is a thread about the beauty and majesty of the great british dear.

Members are capturing them on camera, to save the moment, they are not going to be interested in hearing about sick, twisted, souless fools, that hunt merely for sport.

If this was a thread about pictures of foxes, I do not doubt that you would be telling us all about, fox hunting with your chums.

You are well known for provoking other members of this forum, using immature underhanded tactics, including name calling, talking gibberish and intentionally taking a stance that is opposed to the very spirit that threads are started in.

Here's how to decide if it was relevant.

Has the description of approaching from downwind, moving slowly, and keeping still and allowing them to approach you been enhanced in any way by the inclusion of the subsequent shooting?

it's relevant because that's what he was doing.
delete the fact and you are just pandering to others sensibilities.
i would rather have the truth than others Utopian blinkered views.

Theother Jonv - don't necessarily agree there, just that he could have worded it better - maybe something like

They are not good at resolving shapes only movement, so move slowly and carefully. I was once walking along the edge of a rolling field with big dips and rises, stopping every 5 paces and scanning with my bino's. I spotted a group of deer about 300 metres away just over a rise, I was going down into a dip before the rise so I slowly started to walk closer. Something made me stop, so I stopped, had a good look and there was a pair of ears on the horizon coming towards me about 120 metres out. The deer slowly walked straight towards me to about 30 metres away when it stopped and turned sideways . I swear I didn't move a millimetre and a human would have been aware of me straight away. I think he would have walked straight up to me, well, he would have if I hadn't dropped him with 105 grains of .243, but thats bye the bye

See deer all the time about a mile from Maryhill, along the Kelvin, at dusk they seem to go down to the river for a drink, beautiful sight seeing the mas and pas with their young.
Being a veggie feel no need to shoot them, just enjoy the beauty of nature.
No issue with people eating meat, used to eat it myself, but who's the big man shooting a defenceless deer at close range?

Here's how to decide if it was relevant.

Here's how decide if I give a shit or even think what you said stands up to logical analysis. I don't. It doesn't. What you have posted isn't relevant either is it? The thread was about deer. I posted about deer, wwaswas started the row because he didn't like what I think about deer, was that relevant No it wasn't. You are weak, fool.

Members are capturing them on camera,to save the moment, they are not going to be interested in hearing about sick, twisted, souless fools, that hunt merely for sport.

are you for real? there's a big deer problem in this country (especially in scotland) as they have no natural predators apart from man. what's your solution to this problem? take one in as a pet? chemical neutering?

****less gaurdian reading townie bedwetter.*

*well you did call me a "sick twisted souless fool"

"I was brought up in an agricultural environment so I am fully aware of what farming and the countryside is really about."

Hmmm...so was I, However I can be bothered to give other peoples feelings a second thought, And I stand by my original comments 🙂 It's not my fault you have poorly developed empathic and social skills.:)

You are weak, fool

big gun = small dick

He is almost as brave in his retorts as he is when approaching killer deer.

OP - sorry, I should have bitten my tongue.

I think the point I was trying to make was that the act of shooting was irrelevant to Toys post - the stalking bit was fine but what he did when he got within spitting distance wasn't and was written in what felt like 'gloating' terms.

I've already said - people can take pot shots at anything that moves if it makes them happy, I don't but I eat meat and have no illusions about how it arrives on my plate.

It just seemd a shame that it went to 'aren't these magnificent creatures' to 'here's how I turn one into a corpse' in 3 posts.

[edit] [i]wwaswas started the row because he didn't like what I think about deer[/i]

I repeat I don't care what you do to deer my only concern was with expressing it in the context of the OP's original post. [b]Please understand before one of us expires.[/b]

who's the big man shooting a defenceless deer at close range?

What as opposed to the big man herding calves into a truck using a bit of polythene pipe to beat them in as they are shitting themselves with fear, then driving them to an abattoir where the stench of death is eye watering, then herded (more beating) into a pen corralled into a run, electrocuted to stun them, then hung up and cut open?

I don't have any illusions about being a big man I'm 5ft 5. The deer is not viscous it's really stupid, I'm not trying to prove anything. You have proved that you are a bit dumb by raising such a weak argument. Try harder.

delete the fact and you are just pandering to others sensibilities.

I disagree, you don't need to know why Toys was stalking deer to still be able to follow the technique. In response to Toys suggesting he needs to include it to prove it works; actually nothing's proven by an internet description. I'm just as happy to accept his explanation that he got within 30m without having to know he then killed it. Don't take that as a reason to post pics of the result, BTW.

But sadly; the more I read, the more inclined I am to think that its inclusion was designed to provoke sensibilities.

[edit: and you'll really have to talk me through the last bit. What did I say that deserved that?]

Viscous?

How's your forehead wwaswas?

big gun = small dick

it's illegal to shoot deer with a rifle of less than .24 caliber or below a 1700 ft/lbs muzzle energy (lower limits for muntjack)

so penis size has nothing to do with the size of your gun legally required.

who's the big man shooting a defenceless deer at close range?

Would he have been a bigger man taking it at long range, with a greater chance of not hitting the target area and resulting in a less humane shot? 🙄

MrSmith there is a rather large difference between population control and killing for the sake of killing.

If you read what I said without lettng your emotions get involved you will see the

that hunt merely for sport

I do not have any problem with killing anything, including pest!

However this is a thread about deer and I happen to like them, are they a nuisance, yes they are, they for some idiotic reason cannot understand that man needs all of the land, to build golf courses and other crap on!

intentionally taking a stance that is opposed to the very spirit that threads are started in.

Umm wrong. The OP called the thread Bambi Pic [b]The Deer Hunter"[/b] and he said

I bagged this one today

You wish toys, your level of delusionment is astonomical. The only person who believes the rubbish you come out with, is you!

LEGEND IN HIS OWN MIND!

he would have if I hadn't dropped him with 105 grains of .243, but thats bye the bye

MrSmith there is a rather large difference between population control and killing for the sake of killing.

Really? personally I wouldn't have thought that the deer was really that bothered about the motivation behind the person who pulled the trigger, you also exclude the possibility that someone could gain enjoyment or a sense of satisfaction from killing for population control reasons as part of an evidence based cull plan...

I'm 5ft 5

Short, skilled and courageous. The picture is painting itself. This brave hunter walks tall (metaphorically) amongst our tribe.

[i]How's your forehead wwaswas? [/i]

Sore.

On the plus side I've nearly got a new alcove in the wall next to my desk 😉

DD are you from from furry stock? If you are you will know what I am talking about? I've rumbled you. 🙂

Zulu-Eleven ?

I would have been more impressed if you wrestled it to the ground and punched it in the face and beat it to death with your fists, seems like a fairer fight, but that would be too hard, better use a gun.
Dont use the abattoir cruelty arguement thats a different case.
Personally if people want to kill animals for food, fair do's as long as its done in a humane way.
Can't see any justification for shooting an animal and bragging about it.

Yeah I didn't brag about it, I just told you about it. I wasn't trying to impress you, and given your comments if I impressed you I would be disappointed with myself. Frankly your pillock like the rest of them with your mediocre sensibilities. Lame ass.

Can't see any justification for shooting an animal and bragging about it.

don't do it then.
get your meat from the supermarket instead.

A brave, courageous hunter who walks (metaphorically) tall amongst us should not lower (again, metaphorically...like) himself to the level of petty insults. You are better than this brave one.

DD I love you, thanks for the advice. XX

Can't see any justification for shooting an animal and bragging about it.

i can't see any justification for photographing an animal and bragging about it.

toys19 you speak of logical analysis, so here is something for you to contemplate.

Is it logical or illogical to be involved in behaviour that does nothing but waste time?

You have not contributed anything of any worth, to this thread and have therefore been acting in an illogical way.

It was not necessary for you to mention the shooting and subsequent killing of the dear, it served no real purpose and was not relevant to a thread about photographing dear.

Is it logical or illogical to be involved in actions that are not necessary?

Further more, before you start in with your useless utterly deluded self justifications or insults, bear one thing in mind. I'm not coming back to this thread and you just read this.

😯

kaesae - Member

toys19 you speak of logical analysis, so here is something for you to contemplate.

Is it logical or illogical to be involved in behaviour that does nothing but waste time?

You have not contributed anything of any worth, to this thread and have therefore been acting in an illogical way.

It was not necessary for you to mention the shooting and subsequent killing of the dear, it served no real purpose and was not relevant to a thread about photographing dear.

Is it logical or illogical to be involved in actions that are not necessary?

Further more, before you start in with your useless utterly deluded self justifications or insults, bare one thing in mind. I'm not coming back to this thread and you just read this.

Mr Spock it's not like you to talk Gibberish.

i can't see any justification for photographing an animal and bragging about it.

Mr Smith. You are awesome.

this is a thread about the beauty and majesty of the great british [b][u]dear[/u][/b]

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You have not contributed anything of any worth, to this thread

That's unfair. The stalking techniques were informed and very useful, whether for the purposes of photography or [s]senseless killing of timid beasts[/s] hunting. 😉

theotherjonv, ignore him he's not trying to make a constructive comment, it's a lame attempt trying to wind me up.

Seems to be working.

The stalking techniques were informed and very useful, whether for the purposes of photography or [s]senseless killing of timid beasts[/s] hunting

What good would stalking techniques be for hunting praytell? They're completely unrelated - hunting deer involves a pack of hounds and lots of horses, Stalking involves a precision rifle and fieldcraft 🙄

Its like saying that Steve peat could win the Tour de France, 'cause he's really good at riding a bike!

Z-11

That one's lost on me, is stalking not a form of hunting? I was taking my lead from the expert:

intentionally taking a stance that is opposed to the very spirit that threads are started in.

Umm wrong. The OP called the thread Bambi Pic The Deer Hunter" and he said

"I bagged this one today "
using clear hunting metaphors.

clear hunting metaphors

Like those well known "mountain biking metaphors" like Peloton, Poursuivants, Crevaison, Tete de la Course... I mean, its all the same isn't it?

Toys is talking about Stalking, not Hunting, conflating the two merely shows your ignorance, and when you're throwing around comments like "senseless killing of timid beasts" then I'd suggest that a position of ignorance is not a good one to make a stand from...

OK, I've learnt two things today. Stalking is not hunting. I assume you'll be correcting the rest of the internet on this?

"Deer stalking is the term we use in Scotland for hunting and shooting deer"

As for throwing around comments; That's why I struck out the 'senseless killing.....' comment and added a 😉

Even Toys didn't fall for that one.