In a couple of years it'll be 30 years since the Dunblane massacre. I am glad that legislation passed after Dunblane may have made it more difficult to get hold of a gun here, but Ì'm sad that we as a species seem to have learnt very little since 1996
And enough facetime and sufficiently viral inducing that with luck there will be no job to go back to.
I think you are completely right here. Icing on the hard hitting cake.
More tear gas, rubber bullets, water cannon and baton charges please. Oh, and release the hounds.
Thats not how the police do it. These days its all vid and photographing, which they spend the next few months going through identifying who is who and who did what. Then the main offenders get a 5am wake up call by their door going in.
Would’ve been nice for the first few posts to focus on the horrific attack and how we’ve got here, rather than some fringe mentalist in the US who wrote lies that was reposted by right wing nutters, those freaks will do the same nonsense day in, day out, this type of attack thankfully only happens every few years, and is much more important than internet fantasists.
That whooshing sound you hear? That’s the point you’re missing going straight over your pointy little head.
The horrific attack, and how and why it’s happened, (the details of which nobody actually knows), is largely amplified by the likes of QAnon, Extreme Right Wing factions in America, and I include current members of the US government in that, being devoured by people with a similar mindset in this country, who then go on to commit atrocities like this against innocent people and children.
Have a read of this, it might, possibly, lead to some enlightenment.
What a terrible terrible thing to happen. I can’t imagine losing a child, let alone losing one like this. I’m not sure it’s something I’d ever get over.
You don’t. The rawness may fade, but in reality the grief never really does. I read an interview with the singer/songwriter Alynda Lee Seguera, in which she said “Grief has no time frame”. I have that tattooed on my arm, underneath the date my partner died. I don’t think I’ll ever get over losing her; losing a child, under such circumstances, is a loss I can’t comprehend.
This whole tragedy has made me feel deeply saddened and angered, in equal measure. Saddened at the needless loss of innocent young lives. Angered at the fact there are people willing to organise themselves into hijacking this for their own twisted agenda, demonstrating a complete lack of any empathy, or even just sympathy, for those left to pick up the pieces of their lives.
If there was a way I could legally divorce myself from being classed as the same species as these vile people, I'd jump at the chance. I share none of their values.
I really hope we learn from this as a society. A lot of reflection is required.
Farage was one of the far right shysters happily peddling rumours and false information yesterday which led to all that disgusting thuggery last night. Chris Patten, a remnant from when the Tory party wasn’t so xenophobic, referred to him very accurately… Tommy Robinson in a cravat
Surely there are grounds for charging him with incitement?
Hats off to this woman who stood in the middle of those knuckle-draggers and expressed what the majority of people actually think
https://Twitter.com/drlygo/status/1818511707691425984?s=46&t=1lK7Dw1b6RqGJyvufO-trQ
So is this the second time in 2 weeks the Honourable Member for Clacton has spread racist falsehoods on social media?
So is this the second time in 2 weeks the Honourable Member for Clacton has spread racist falsehoods on social media?
There's nothing remotely honourable about the way that man acts.
There’s nothing remotely honourable about the way that man acts.
Definitely more Member than Honourable, but more seriously, spreading racially based falsehoods, shall we say, must get close to the law, let alone bringing Parliament into disrepute.
EDL needs to be made a proscribed organisation.
EDL needs to be made a proscribed organisation.
That was my first thought but they have done themselves so much damage in the eyes of the majority that I think these Farage loving thugs should remain as a constant reminder to everyone of just how unacceptable and stupid bigotry is.
Something which even the Daily Mail is loudly proclaiming
I notice that the Daily Mail appears to have disabled their comments section.
Despite having tried to exploit this truly tragic event for their own agenda the far-right has likely done themselves irreparable damage
At least the WPC who had her nose broken had it dun by inglish paytreerts this time.
the far-right has likely done themselves irreparable damage
I wish I shared your optimism.
The people who buy into the "are tommy" narrative really buy into it. The more extreme a viewpoint, the more entrenched it is likely to be. No-one chucking bricks at riot police is going to have a sudden flash of introspection and think "hm, maybe we went a bit far there." They are fanatics. I heard Robinson described as a "lone voice" the other day, he's a hero to these brainless shitgibbons.
I notice that the Daily Mail appears to have disabled their comments section.
They've all moved to the GB News and Talk TV chat forums. This seems to be the new business model for those channels, attract outraged patriots to your website (and serve them lots of ads I assume).
Looks like some video from last night.
2 absolutely cracking shots here
https://www.reddit.com/r/ukdrill/s/ViXF612wUX
Patriots:
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Not patriots
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The fact these people even think they're on the same level as people who have quite literally died in defence of this nation and its people astounds me.
^^ There are a few people on Twitter bemoaning the riots today that were happy to post that false name narrative yesterday.
Oh, you mentioned foreign involvement earlier in the thread RM, CNN are reporting that that fake perpetrator info was first posted on a Russian affiliated "news site".
The apocalyptic aftermath of those patriots protecting the community.
https://twitter.com/Parody_PM/status/1818545276187004964
I'm hoping that with Farage and Anderson and the rest of the suit-wearing Reform racists jumping on the bandwagon yesterday, along with Tommy Robinson, that the scales might fall from a few peoples eyes and they now see that they are just two cheeks of the same arse.
The only difference is one of them wears Tweed instead of Stone Island
Aren't these violent protesters in fact themselves, ironically, terrorists?
I have little words for the way these things happen
even if the perpetrator is some sort of recent immigrant turned terrorist (all unannounced or denied right now) , the rioting doesn't prevent anything, all it does is waste additional resources and cause greater problems.
Its horrible what has happened and i can't even try to think about it properly, but this kind of behaviour by what literally seems to be chavs at any opportunity needs to be treated appropriately. you're chucking bricks at police? surely that's attempted murder? Water cannon, plastic bullets and tazer's, handcuffed and prosecuted in full force. Don't want to get hurt? don't get involved in this sort of thing
The fact these people even think they’re on the same level as people who have quite literally died in defence of this nation and its people astounds me.
It shouldn't astound you. They're morbidly thick, unattractive, violent thugs who want to blame their poor quality of life on anyone else, so long as they don't have to face up to the reality that they are just useless.
I’m hoping that with Farage and Anderson and the rest of the suit-wearing Reform racists jumping on the bandwagon yesterday, along with Tommy Robinson, that the scales might fall from a few peoples eyes and they now see that they are just two cheeks of the same arse.
The only difference is one of them wears Tweed instead of Stone Island
Not a chance. There will be a handful of befuddled pensioners. But everyone else who voted Reform/UKIP/Leave etc and identifies with the likes of Farage knows what lies just underneath the surface. At best they made a decision to wilfully ignore the evidence and downplay it in their own minds. And that is being very charitable.
How the hell did we get here? An unsubstantiated rumour ends up in a riot….
Society going to hell in a handcart..
Hopefully the IT bods at the police, NCA, GCHQ or whoever does it, will be able to track down those responsible for organising it and hit them and those linked to them with the full force of the law.
This sort of thing does not just happen spontaneously, it is planned and prepared for. As mentioned above, this is organised terrorism in all but name.
When that 'news' website popped up yesterday with the false info, and all the links to it were all over X and Facebook, whois showed it as being registered near Boston, US. The organisation info was all redacted.
But yes, an investigation should be able to uncover who was behind it. Someone paid for the domain and hosting.
If I can post a picture, I just want to post something a little more positive.
No-one chucking bricks at riot police is going to have a sudden flash of introspection and think “hm, maybe we went a bit far there.” They are fanatics.
Of course, which is why I suggested that they are probably doing irreparable damage to the EDL in particular and the far-right cause generally. A point which you appear to challenge
Hopefully the IT bods at the police, NCA, GCHQ or whoever does it, will be able to track down those responsible for organising it and hit them and those linked to them with the full force of the law.
I really, really hope that brick-in-the-bollocks-bloke gets a knock on the door, just to cement his place as the biggest nobhead who ever walked the earth. Lets just take a moment to once again appreciate the true majesty of his stupidity....
https://Twitter.com/GusTheFox/status/1818422209020354954
How the hell did we get here?
Social media. These people have always existed, but they had no real idea of realising how many people shared their views. Previously it was just their mates down the pub. Felt pretty isolated. Now they can see solidarity on social media and feel emboldened by it, fed lies by the right wing poster boys like Farage and Robinson.
Social media.
I completely agree 100%.
They are quite small in numbers which is presumably why mosques across the UK haven't been attacked and it is just the one in Southport.
Stephen Lennon/the EDL is not popular with the UK public, which is why the gobshite lost his deposit when he stood in the European elections in a seat which probably provided him with his best chances. I think he managed to get 2%
which is why the gobshite lost his deposit
Shame he hasn't lost his liberty yet. But that would probably then make him a martyr to some.
Of course, which is why I suggested that they are probably doing irreparable damage to the EDL in particular and the far-right cause generally. A point which you appear to challenge
But ernie you are missing the point here, the kind of person who likes the EDL, or goes on their marches, will think that yesterday was great and it might even give them a boost. They showed the powers that be that they are a force to reckon with etc. etc.
I think this will embolden many of them, seeing the coverage and the outcry from the people they despise (or have been told to despise). Most of them will literally get away with civic unrest and rioting.
I'd throw the lot of them in a rock grinder and have zero compunction.
Thanks to Ernie for this.
https://twitter.com/plinketyplink2/status/1818383624179470779
Just in case anyone had any sympathy for the "brick guy", which I highly doubt, here he is expressing his remorse in regard to the children that were murdered. He's in other videos too, at least 4 I've seen
It's fair to say that, all in all, it's just another brick in the ball.
https://twitter.com/jasemonkey/status/1818422518207651868
Social media
This and wider. We have an unprecedented level of access to information. This can be a great thing. What we can see is the other side of that.
Sometimes we're not as far away from chimps as we'd like to believe.
Comment on X about the brick idiot
"I was half expecting him to step on a rake on the way out"
We’re all chimps, but some of us are chumps
