Pleased (very lucky) to be British. Annoyed by the politics (Brexit,May,HS2) and people who make manipulative videos like:
May isn't exactly keeping the country in order.
In reality everything is chill apart from price hikes.
Wouldn't mind France or Holland.
ootflaps - Member
Glad, but also ashamed of Brexit and the rise in xenophobia / racism.
When I travel abroad I actually feel awkward now, I need one of those T-shirts which says 'Don't blame me, I voted to stay in the EU'.
I find a bit of an apologetic shrug and a grin that says "I'm sure you've got pillocks in your country too" does the trick.
Yup, feel very lucky.
I wouldn't mind being from Brazil, Ireland, most bits of Africa, Poland, Bulgaria or Romania, but I'm not telling you why.
Glad, but also ashamed of Brexit and the rise in xenophobia / racism.When I travel abroad I actually feel awkward now, I need one of those T-shirts which says 'Don't blame me, I voted to stay in the EU'.
I doubt very much that your average European citizen really give a flying one about you or your self-imposed Brexit shame, TBH.
And those who wish they were Canadian, had a look at Canadian politics lately?
And as for the rise in xenophobia/racism/The Right, that's very much a minority view, amplified by the Daily Wail foghorn; I mean, can anyone honestly make a direct comparison between us and the US and what's happening there? I get out around a large chunk of the UK, and I just don't see it, except for the occasional loudmouth who you're going to find anywhere, and the number of central/Eastern Europeans I meet who seem to blend in quite naturally without apparent issues is really quite gratifying.
When did anyone see a massed march of fascists and skinhead thugs parading through a largely immigrant area of any city or town in the UK?
The whole extreme right in the UK has been thoroughly discredited and wiped out as a political force.
And quite right, too.
The US, however, is just one huge cluster****, and I just can't see how it's going to repair the damage in less than several generations.
I love the country I was born and brought up in, I love its history, it's landscape and all the great things it's given the world, art, music, literature, etc., and I am happy to live here.
Very Proud of being From Yorkshire. It is specifically where I am from.
Not at all fond of being 'english', not one I associate with, not a label I like, not something I find many positives in tbh.
Quite happy with the British label, I feel the broader inclusion, the bunch of people who mock each other quite harshly, like a good bunch of mates who only bicker because of how much time we spend together, I'd like to see it as an identity be less "London and pals" though.
Very proud to be European, such a mix, such a mix of food, music, culture, landscape. A chequered history but one which I think is informative and gives us much to learn from.
Quite proud to be from Earth, I think we're doing OK, when you look at where we came from, long way to go, hungry people etc. Come on chaps sort it out.
I've not had time to think too much about how I feel about the solor system, I think some other planets let us down. I'm looking at you here Neptune, get your shit together.
I don't understand how people stay in a country they are not happy to live in or feel ashamed to live in or be a passport holder of said country. The world is very small and the chance and opportunity to up sticks and move somewhere you feel will be better for you and if applicable your family has never been easier. I appreciate there are some country exceptions!
Very Proud of being From Yorkshire. It is specifically where I am from.
Do you like what you say and say what you bloody well like?
genesiscore502011 - Member
I don't understand how people stay in a country they are not happy to live in or feel ashamed to live in or be a passport holder of said country. The world is very small and the chance and opportunity to up sticks and move somewhere you feel will be better for you and if applicable your family has never been easier. I appreciate there are some country exceptions!POSTED 21 SECONDS AGO # REPORT-POST
That's the flowery version of "if you don't like it, **** off" in case anyone was wondering. 🙂
Do you like what you say and say what you bloody well like?
Do you know, I sort of do a bit yes. 🙂
No it's not. 🙂 I would have said that if I meant that. Just explaining how i don't understand how people don't make the changes they feel is good for them. Fear I guess of the unknown?
Feel quite glad, but we're a fairly flawed lot. I enjoy some vague ideas of decency and politeness though acknowledge that probably never really existed in a meaningful sense - just a load of repressed/violent nutcases underneath the veneer of civility. As an idea Britain still has a lot to make up for - global slavery, buggering up various economies with colonialism and then further screwing up of regions with hasty and ill-considered withdrawal from said colonialism.
What I will never take for granted is that I was born in and live in a country where most people have the opportunity to shape how they want to live their lives. We are eminently pragmatic and I feel that generally we have a tendency to limit the excesses of power. What I am definitely not proud of is a growing sense of material inequality in modern Britain.
I don't understand how people stay in a country
FWIW I can't understand why you can't understand why.
unklehomered - Member
Do you like what you say and say what you bloody well like?
Do you know, I sort of do a bit yes.POSTED 4 MINUTES AGO # REPORT-POST
I think Yorkshire and the "God's own county" thing is brilliant and I am a teensy bit jealous.
I'd never admit that to a northern monkey, though.......
Wish I could have been Italian. I reckon they have it sussed out.
I think that from the 60's (maybe even earlier) to the noughties, was a special time for creativity in Britain. Music, comedy & satire, theatre, film and television we just seemed to produce more originality than any other country. I think I was lucky to be brought up in the middle of that era.
Unfortunately I think that era is now fading away.
Glad yeah, I mean it's a piss easy life compared to most of the world currently and historically it's like wining the lottery.
Proud, nah I didn't do any of the things that made the UK what it is.
I do love Britain (Welsh and British) I've traveled a lot, lived aboard, but despite the lack of lift-accessed MTB trails I do love it here, love my home town too, lived in other places but I like the mix I have here, it's not perfect, but on balance I don't know anywhere else I would live permanently instead. (But I might sod off for a couple of years for big piles of cash).
I am proud to be British .. and having live for 2X4 years in Switzerland and 1 x 2 years in Germany, I may have a better perspective than many on here.
I wanted to come back ...
CH is lovely - but very, very dull. And the most selfish culture I have ever come across ...
Germany is far more livable ... and more honest people but despite al its issues, I like the UK..
Btw, consider myself scottish - by birth and up bringing ...
Ri elf Xenophobia ... take a visit to Rostock, or Warsaw, or anywhere i Croatia, Northern Italy, anywhere i Austria, most of NL outside of Amsterdam, France south of the Vichy line ... and Northern Spain.
And Belgium ... where they all hate each other.
Ironically , I I know this will surprise a lot of you how have not traveled/ lived abroad,,, the UK is not actually seen as a third world country.
The inhabitants, however, are seen as major whiners about just about everything ....
They may have that just about right ....
BTW wanting to be Italian. You really have no comprehension of how f***ed up that country is by gross corruption and the mafia ...
could be worse, could be Scottish
"It’s SHITE being Scottish! We’re the lowest of the low. The scum of the ****ing Earth! The most wretched, miserable, servile, pathetic trash that was ever shat into civilization. Some hate the English. I don’t. They’re just ****ers. We, on the other hand, are COLONIZED by ****ers. Can’t even find a decent culture to be colonized BY. We’re ruled by effete assholes. It’s a SHITE state of affairs to be in, Tommy, and ALL the fresh air in the world won’t make any ****ing difference!”
I was born white in the west
I basically won the lottery of life and I'm incredibly grateful
This is the most Yorkshire thing ever.
Good old Fiery Fred congratulating Dennis Lillee on his 300th test wicket.
Well, fifteen seconds of congratulations followed by a nearly a minute of rucking at a perceived injustice and a further reminiscence about his own achievement!
When did anyone see a massed march of fascists and skinhead thugs parading through a largely immigrant area of any city or town in the UK?
Halifax a couple of years ago, ironically the night of an Asian in-law's stag do.
We'd decided on Hebden, next stop down the train line.
That was fun.
Bolton town centre a couple of years before that.
I'm sure there's been loads more, but those are the only ones that I've experience of.
Still, the fact that the far right are allowed to do so is a sign of our tolerance as a nation.
could be worse, could be Scottish
The irony of all of this is I am Scottish, born there , raised there until 7. Support the national team in football, and rugby. But I speak with an English accent ....
Despite their great Europhile rhetoric, hating the English is number one on the agenda ....
I am very sad to say, that outside of Russia, it is the most racist place I have every been . But 99% of the racism is focused on the English. It's pitiful ...
I'm Welsh(ish).
piemonster - Member
I don't understand how people stay in a country
FWIW I can't understand why you can't understand why.
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Are you a teacher by trade? 😀
ootflaps - Member
Glad, but also totally ashamed of Brexit and the rise in xenophobia / racism.
When I travel abroad I actually feel awkward now, I need one of those T-shirts which says 'Don't blame me, I voted to stay in the EU'.
Yes, this. But I'd also have one of those Acid House 80's smilie faces on it, but the smile would be upside down.
One thing about Britain I find really odd, it's the lack of region/county pride. It's all sort of "all the same man"
The British do not celebrate regionality, diversification nor regional home produce.. it's all sort of "the same man" and folks when asked about the county they were born in invariably move away, for work or escape. Sad that is, very sad. But it's an accepted part of being "british" ... reserved reticence.
As,for the troll up there, nice try .. take a break.
The British do not celebrate regionality, diversification nor regional home produce..
WTF? Really? There are still cheeses that you only get to find out about if you're from that parish of Yorkshire/Lancashire and you are shot on the spot if you reveal their existence to outsiders!
Bide on.
You want to see something to be ashamed of;
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/aug/24/brazil-abolishes-huge-amazon-reserve-in-biggest-attack-in-50-years?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_New_Post
So whilst the entire world is pushing for conservation, environment, climate change; the state of Brazil are still cutting down the amazon.
That's disgraceful. Whinging about the result of a vote which didn't go your way is just pathetic and grown adults should know better.
WTF? Really? There are still cheeses that you only get to find out about if you're from that parish of Yorkshire/Lancashire and you are shot on the spot if you reveal their existence to outsiders!
Yep!
And, taking that futher - CHEESE! We have the most excellent cheese in this country. That's got to count for something! Beauvale and Tunworth for lunch, BTW.
Yeah, but only you know about them. Not promoted or celebrated are they. It's not like anyone knows about them.
That's my point..
But you knew that.
wrecker - Member
Bide on.You want to see something to be ashamed of;
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/aug/24/brazil-abolishes-huge-amazon-reserve-in-biggest-attack-in-50-years?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_New_PostSo whilst the entire world is pushing for conservation, environment, climate change; the state of Brazil are still cutting down the amazon.
That's disgraceful. Whinging about the result of a vote which didn't go your way is just pathetic and grown adults should know better.
Wonder what happened to our indigenous forest......
Ah yes, we got to cut the bugger down before anyone realized it was a bad thing. Go us!
This country's trolling has gone to the dogs I tell you.
bikebouy - Member
Yeah, but only you know about them. Not promoted or celebrated are they. It's not like anyone knows about them.That's my point..
But you knew that.
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Yes, but this is uber-level regionalism. The core assumption is that anyone from outside of your region doesn't [u]deserve[/u] to know about the good stuff.
This country's trolling has gone to the dogs I tell you.
Never mind trolling, if you can't tell the difference between the importance of the amazon and what was once forest covering the UK to the environment, it's the school standards I am concerned for.
So why not promote it, share it and celebrate it ?
Or.. keep it quiet and to yourself.
Britain needs to promote a regional culture IMO. Produce from those regions should be distinct and protected and celebrated as such. That way regions become places of interest other than places to pass through on the way to somewhere else.
You know what I'm saying, the points I'm making.
I'm surprised you fired back with a "what he hell" type of response.. but it's late I guess.
Never mind trolling, if you can't tell the difference between the importance of the amazon and what was once forest covering the UK to the environment, it's the school standards I am concerned for.
And if you can't see the irony in the first country to rape its natural resources (hate that term) in the drive to industrialise lecturing others on environmental responsibility then it's the playschool standards I am concerned for.
Britain needs to promote a regional culture IMO. Produce from those regions should be distinct and protected and celebrated as such.
Leicestershire pork pies, Hampshire wine, Highland beef, Devon cream tea, Brummy Chicken Tikka Masala, Cumberland sausage, London jellied eels, Bakewell bakewell, Mersey Trout. Actually, hold the last one....
There are so many wondrous foods out there, and they are celebrated. I agree they should be protected, however. Pork pies come from Melton Mowbray. Nowhere else.
Tangent. I'm not speaking for the UK, nor defending it. And if can't see how society and science has progressed coupled with the recognition of climate change then I wonder if you made out of play school.
Proud to be a Saffa.
Mind, did spend 12yrs in your mob, so do have a fair bit of pride.
Leicestershire pork pies
Heresy.
Pork pies come from Melton Mowbray.
Recovered.
I'm not having people from over the border in Loughborough or Market Harborough taking any credit for pork pies.
Born in England. Identify as Welsh. Hate Britishness.
Danny, was starting with counties! Everyone knows pork pies come from Melton Mowbray. What is understood doesn't need to be discussed.
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So for those who've gone off being British anymore because of whatever reasons,
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Pick one & **** off to wherever suits you, loads to choose from so no excuse.
Copa, which Britishness?
The construct of salesmen, or your own experiences?
Not being funny btw, just interested.
And if can't see how society and science has progressed coupled with the recognition of climate change then I wonder if you made out of play school.
And if [u]you[/u] can't see how society and science has progressed coupled with the recognition of climate change then I wonder if you made out [u]of[/u] play school.
Hmmmmm. What was that about play school standards again?
Sometimes this stuff is just too easy. 🙄
So, apparently we all eat local produce then.
I have a vested interest in my point. We have an Organic Beef and Lamb farm in our family, based in Yorkshire.
You'd think being both Organic and Yorkshire raised produce would be flying out of the farm.. rong. Very few want to pay and support local produce farms. Folks want cheap food, produced in Brazil or Argentina and trucked across oceans to the shores of Blighty to be sold for £2 less.
So, please do fire back with some snidy comment...
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Pick one & **** off to wherever suits you, loads to choose from so no excuse.
Oh look, we were waiting for that comment.
Well done, you were second.
