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Snacking on fruit is bad - sugar.
An interesting point, the message from R4 (well from one of the guests) was "eat more fruit" without any qualification.
The article I read was suggesting 2 fruit and 5 veg.
Well if I can count my breakfast sultanas and fresh juice, that's 2 portions straight away 🙂
The person from public health on the new managed to contradict herself in a very short statement:
1. 31% of people don't eat 5-a-day
2. 5-a-day is a simple message that people understandSo, we won't change it. Genius.
69% compliance to a dietary recommendation would normally be considered a triumph in public health terms. And just because some people choose to eat nothing but pies doesn't mean they don't understand the 5-a-day message. They just don't choose to do it.
I sincerely doubt that more than two-thirds of the population is having five a day though.
As in a later post I made, it's actually 75% not eating 5-a-day.
[i]Why?[/i]
Oh dear.
😥
Oh dear.
Still not very helpful
Solo - I note that theres tomato ketchup on the chip butty. Thats another one of your 7. You've got this sussed!!!!! 😀
And, lets be brutally frank; chips are better than cauliflowers
You are allowed to eat things [i]in addition[/i] to the vegetables...
I had a chippy tea on Friday night. A sweet chicken and chilli, with chips for lunch on Saturday. Three (slightly stale) cinnamon and raisin swirls and 6 custard creams as a snack last night.
Today's breakfast had maple syrup on top, dinner contains chorizo, tea includes toad in the hole.
[i]Still not very helpful [/i]
Help ? are you really looking for help ? No, you're not. You're fine as you are, aren't you.
Carry on.
Seven a day cut the risk of dying from cancer and heart disease.
And increases the risk of you living for longer as a senile geriatric old codger.
Experts said other lifestyle factors, such as not smoking or drinking excessively, may have accounted for the drop in mortality, not just fruit and veg consumption
Who are these geniuses. I wish to nominate them for a nobel.
are you really looking for help ?
No, but when some stranger on the internet tells me my pancreas is at risk from a diet that I've had for 35 years or more, it's reasonable for me to ask why. I don't know whether you're a health professional who can't be bothered to explain or someone just on here for the sport of it.
I've had three of my five already today. Porridge with banana and raisin, apple just now. Unfortunately I'm now reading about the evils of fructose and apparently I'm still doomed. 🙁
And increases the risk of you living for longer as a senile geriatric old codger.
Apart from the [url= https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=diet+linked+to+alzheimer%27s+disease ]possible links between Alzheimer's and poor diet[/url], you mean?
The fundamental flaw in the DoH's well-intentioned, but eye-rollingly tedious hectoring about the lifestyles we should all be leading, is it assumes we all want to live until we're 98. I'm sure that looks like a fabulous prospect from their comfortable, upper middle class ivory towers. Winter on the slopes, summers in Tuscany
Meanwhile, back in the real world…...
Can you do this 5 a day thing entirely through alcohol?
Eg If I mix up a Sloe Gin, Red Wine, Pear Cider, Calvados and Cranberry juice cocktail, would that count as 5?
Apart from the possible links between Alzheimer's and poor diet, you mean?
I'd rather be senile when I'm geriatric. That way I won't know about it.
[i]I don't know whether you're a health professional who can't be bothered to explain or someone just on here for the sport of it. [/i]
Its never stopped you using your pitchfork in the past.
[i]I'm now reading about the evils of fructose and apparently I'm still doomed[/i]
Ah, now, you see. On this forum, that sort of thing is frouned upon as cheating. Stick to what you [i]think[/i] and try to either cling to old, out of date science or just repeat what you heard at the check out.
Also, contaminated bagged salad can cause kidney failure. And 46% of all food poisoning cases in the US are related to vegetables, which is suprising seeing as all they eat is minced beef in a bun.
Where are my fish and chips? 😈
footflaps - MemberCan you do this 5 a day thing entire through alcohol?
You sir, are a genius.
I'd rather be senile when I'm geriatric. That way I won't know about it.
I'd rather be that amazing 90-year-old who sets a new hour record for his age group. I'd also rather not die in my 50s.
Does a diet of Scotch and Cigars count?
Does a diet of Scotch and Cigars count?
At least three I reckon, or maybe more if it's a blend?
The fundamental flaw in the DoH's well-intentioned, but eye-rollingly tedious hectoring about the lifestyles we should all be leading, is it assumes we all want to live until we're 98. I'm sure that looks like a fabulous prospect from their comfortable, upper middle class ivory towers. Winter on the slopes, summers in TuscanyMeanwhile, back in the real world…...
Keep fighting the class war comrade. Graphic designers who post on mountain bike forums will be the backbone of the revolution. 🙂
Also, contaminated bagged salad can cause kidney failure. And 46% of all food poisoning cases in the US are related to vegetables, which is suprising seeing as all they eat is minced beef in a bun.
Aren't beansprouts the most dangerous thing you can eat or something?
Edit: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/craig-goldwyn/sprouts-e-coli-risk_b_875103.html
Solo, have I done something to upset you in a previous life/thread? I was genuinely curious why you thought my diet was not as healthy as I first thought and I don't understand why you don't want to tell me. I've surmised it's to do with the fruit juice, but are you really suggesting that 2 glasses of fruit juice in a day* - with a meal - is bad for me?
Looks like my 5 a day situation may take a turn for the worst...
{*edit, "in a day", not every day}
Graphic designers who post on mountain bike forums will be the backbone of the revolution
They'll close down all the post restaurants and have them replaced by Cornish Pasty shops.....
[i]They'll close down all the post restaurants and have them replaced by Cornish Pasty shops.....[/i]
Not if Jamie has anything to say about it !
** btw, whats a "post restaurant" ? **
Post = Posh typed badly......
Aren't beansprouts the most [s]dangerous[/s]revolting thing you can eat or something?
I like nearly every type of bean and sprouts are ok but beansprouts???
They taste like grass mixed with wet soil.
Thing is if you ate 7 of the recommended size portions of veg you'd probably be too full to eat anything else nice/unhealthy hence the health benefits 🙂
I'm already struggling with 5 a day
I need to have a look at some recipes
[i]I'm already struggling with 5 a day[/i]
Then don't. Eat meat.
I know I should be eating more veg though, just not very imaginative when it comes to cooking
It's all carp.
Eat what you like, one day you will die.
Yes and smoke fags as that is Bollocks to
I assume it is pretty hard for a meat eater as I am not certain that every single day [ perhaps one or two a month*] I achieve it and i am a vegan
Solo, have I done something to upset you in a previous life/thread?
Its what he does on every vaguely diet related thread dont take it personally they cannot help themselves and is is not you but them. On the plus side I will get the flak for a bit now and not you
* That means I dont eat 7 a day For example its possible to have some cereal and a crumpet at brekky, then a sandwich for dinner then some chips and cake for tea though it is pretty rare. Most days I will be over 10 I assume and i drink plenty of home made fruit juice
Junkyard I'm trying to get in touch, give me a shout when you get chance (email or phone)
You vegan curious ?
I assume it is pretty hard for a meat eater
Nope.
I have seen your dinners [ ok you posted them up once] and you may not be typical
Does it have to be opaque? I was hoping the stuff we bought in steel jerrycans from round the back of a derelict farmhouse counted. The rust added to the bouquet.
[i]Pretty[/i] sure that's red diesel 🙂
something like that yes 🙂You vegan curious ?
I'd guess it's reasonably easy if you made a concerted effort to make it a part of your diet, probably easier for veggie/vegans tho (after mike's first post I did assume he was veggie)I assume it is pretty hard for a meat eaterNope.
Meateater here and struggle with 5 let alone 7, must try harder.
[i]Its what he does on every vaguely diet related thread dont take it personally they cannot help themselves and is is not you but them. On the plus side I will get the flak for a bit now and not you[/i]
Yay, Junkster is back. And posting on my behalf. Pity you're wrong though. But when has that ever stopped you.
😉
I expect that you'll be frothing up quite nicely, soon.
😆
I assume it is pretty hard for a meat eater as I am not certain that every single day [ perhaps one or two a month*] I achieve it and i am a vegan
I'd agree, just veggie here rather than vegan though (AKA - weak :-))
I'm thinking of an average day:
Brekkie - 2 boiled eggs, 2 slices of Vogel, tea.
Lunch - Salad, houmous + carrot sticks, crisps (my treat)
Tea - veggie chilli / pasta (usually Quorn plus onion, peppers, courgette, maybe grated carrot)
Probably an apple as a snack at some point, too much coffee & tea through out.
I doubt that there's 400g of veg in there. thats a lot of veg.
I'd guess it's reasonably easy if you made a concerted effort to make it a part of your diet
It's as complicated as:
1. buy more veg
2. eat it
I might bung a 'typical' day's worth of veg in a bowl tonight and weigh it.
I eat porridge for breakfast, banana mid morning, lunch is usually a sandwich, a couple of tangerines after lunch, then dinner is usually meat or fish and potatoes/rice and a portion of veg



