Hmmm. I read that the Royal Navy have despatched HMS Dauntless - destroyer class - to the south Atlantic. Are there rumblings of another row about sovereignty?
Does anyone need to sell more tools of war?
You're half right. It's just the "again" bit that's wrong.
They've always had their eyes on the Antarctic oil & mineral rights that the Malvinas package comes with.
row about sovereignty?
or about oil?
(Imagines a Masked Maggie on a Trolley being wheeled out a la Hannibal Lecter)
EDIT: And it has been done 🙂
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I should imagine buttock face is hoping they do something stupid to boost his popularity thus hiding his lies and lack of spine over RBS
A more impartial news source will point out that the ship that is heading out is simply taking the place of one already stationed there. The telegraph will instead tell you that Dauntless is 'sending a powerful message'.
Personally I think its all part of an ongoing 80's revival
Well they can't have helped but notice that, after the defense cuts, the Royal Navy now consists of 3 of these:
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So they might fancy their chances a bit more than last time. Is someone in Argentina up for re-election? That's normally the logic behind most saber-rattling
We have a big airfield down their now, as long as we defend that, we'll be OK
If we lost it, we're ****ed
Things are definitely hotting up with the discovery of oil. The Argies cause is now being supported by other South American countries too:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16280613
And a scary quote:
"Brazil and other countries know that thanks to Liam Fox's defence cuts, the UK no longer has aircraft carrier capability so British maritime power projection has been fatally weakened by the government."
jota - there's one Vulcan bomber (funded by charity) that could bomb said runway if we did lose it!
there's one Vulcan bomber (funded by charity)
Can you use gift aid when donating funds for the bombs?
As for the aircraft carriers/ships, it wouldn't be the first time a conservative govt, bought a ship back from the breakers yard and deployed it in a conflict.
binners - relax - we also have this:
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S'alright, the Burger Eaters will come to our rescue.
Atleast the canadians have guns on their boats now
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"Brazil and other countries know that thanks to Liam Fox's defence cuts, the UK no longer has aircraft carrier capability so British maritime power projection has been fatally weakened by the government."
It's a pity we didn't take up the offer of a couple of US nukes on a long lease
If they do have the capability to actually get to the Islands, and then take the defended purpose buit RAF base, the'y better do it quick before the UK sends elements of the joint rapid reaction force. I'd fancy my chances even less this time around if I were an Argentinian pilot, flying the same shit they had 30 years ago but now against FI based Typhoons.
HMS Dauntless is only taking over from the Montrose on South Atlantic deployment. With a possible issue in the Gulf the Navy could be stretched.
Calm down guys, nothing is going to happen.
Quite rightly Argentina want a share of the oil on their doorstep.
Plus of course they would not mind getting the islands under their control. Should they have them? Personally I would like to see it, its costing us a fortune to keep them.
Tis a great place..
I loved the time I spent down there.
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[i]Quite rightly Argentina want a share of the oil on their doorstep.[/i]
Who the **** do they think they are? The Scottish?!!!!
Perhaps instead of a referendum we could resettle the SNP to the Falklands. They can have their independence there, where it will be useful for something.
Sod it, let's send the BNP down there too, could split the island in half and let them lob half bricks at each other.
Teetosugars - in the lower pic', how far away are those nuns?
Quite rightly Argentina want a share of the oil on their doorstep.Who the **** do they think they are? The Scotch?!!!!
FTFY
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[i]hels - Member
Perhaps instead of a referendum we could resettle the SNP to the Falklands. They can have their independence there, where it will be useful for something[/i]
Maybe that would be the only way of the "Scotch" getting fair share of oil money. Plus could always pppppick up a ppppenguin!
Argentina would need air superiority to have any chance of taking the islands and that's not going to happen as long as we have Typhoons based at MPA. Plus they have no credible airforce anyhow as its been starved of cash for many years (in a far worse way than ours has!).
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So don't send any troops by sea Argentina.
It's never going to happen anyway
They're just playing the long game in the hope that one day we'll negotiate with them
Its a wee bit sad that they feel the need to political posture time and time again over a small spec of an Island in the Atlantic. Why aren't they out nicking land of Chile? 😆
You wait, a few years down the line
someone will broker a deal where they get some rights in return for renouncing their overall claim
And we get to not spend a few squillon quid on defence
just wait and see
TeaToo... That's a proper 80's SF tash there. You forgot the black nasty though.
Teetosugars, in the first pic are you sporting a button-nose erection? 😆
OP - Reclaiming the Falklands (Malvinas) remains a national priority for Argentina. Worryingly, they have spent a great deal of money on modernising and professionalising their armed forces. They are very keen to open a dialogue with the UK about the sovereignty of the Islands. However, the UK is unlikely to negotiate while the majority 3,000 Islanders want to remain British. The sad irony is that during the 1970s the British Government was quite open to the idea of handing sovereignty over to the Argentine. Had they not invaded in 1982, then the Falkland islanders may have been lured by promises of Argentinean investment and compensation.
It is possible that the Argentineans will use their armed forces to only threaten invasion, thus causing the UK’s already overstretched armed forces to struggle with their existing operations. This will bring the UK Government to the table. A prime time would be this summer during the Olympics. British troops will be committed in Afghanistan and thousands will be providing security for the Games. Also, it will be winter in the South Atlantic which will hamper the progress of any British Task Force. A cunning Argintenian commander may also threaten Acension, and St Helena, South Georgia or even the British Antartic Territory in order to tie down as many British resources as possible.
It is possible that a small group of military extremists will set up a base on a remote corner of the Falklands. This would place the UK in a difficult position. It could use force to remove the outpost, but it could be bloody. More likely, they will negotiate. Worst case scenario is that the outpost gains the support the Argentineans public forcing the hand of the Government.
The real question is: How many British lives are we willing to sacrifice for a small chunks of rock with a population of about 3,000 people? Already, 255 sounds too much.
One nuke.
That's all we need. May as well use them before they get obsolete.
Whatever anyone thinks of her she had more balls than any male Cabinet member. If we had stepped back/down. How the bell may have tolled for our prestige since.
Yes she closed a lot of industries however it was her own Churchillian moment (where are you Junkyard? Come and get me!) 😆
willard - Member
TeaToo... That's a proper 80's SF tash there. You forgot the black nasty though.
Hahaha..
It's the issue one.
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Unlikely......
hora - MemberIts a wee bit sad that they feel the need to political posture time and time again over a small spec of an Island in the Atlantic.
pmsl
I reckon we should give the Falklands [s]back[/s] to the Argentines just as soon as the Spanish give back Argentina to the Incas...
Racist.
Teetosugars, yesterday.
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I reckon we should give the Falklands back to the Argentines just as soon as the Spanish give back Argentina to the Incas..
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[i]zokes - Member
I reckon we should give the Falklands back to the Argentines just as soon as the Spanish give back Argentina to the Incas... [/i]
The Inca's? They were from the north and invaded the present day land of Argentina, but only a sidgen of it). Think you may mean the indigenous tribes of the region than the Inca's. It's like saying give Britain to the Vikings. History lesson over.
