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A serious question this. Are people of a right wing leaning all absolutely... you know....
I'm just reading the profiles of some of the Republican candidates and, quite frankly, they're all madder than a box of frogs. And when I think of any other prominent 'right wingers', I can only think of people who are clearly mental! Like Camerons Blue Sky thinker and his wacky 'lets surface the streets with treacle and have bubble machines on every corner' type ideas
Can anyone name any sane, rational right wingers?
Aaron Lennon?
what really worries me is that the (clearly, as you say bonkers) candidates are trying to appear more centre right (to garner more votes) than the majority of their Republican supporters.
I don't think I'll ever understand Americans.
American right wingers tend to be bonkers ours just tend to be posh , very rich and interesting in keeping privledge as a right and retaining as much of their lolly as possible
Linky binners
Well on the basis that US left-wingers/democrats are comfortably to the right of either of our main parties (who IMO are both centre-right), how does that add up?
Everyone's bonkers, it's just people choose to be blind to the left-wing bonkers as it seems cuddlier ๐
Bonkers left-wingers do nasty things with a smile on their face. Bonkers right-wingers with swivelly eyes and a snarl. Not sure which is worse, really ๐
im not sure if its as bad in the uk but reading a lot of the comments on the telegraph talkbacks expecially about enoch powells rivers of blood speech are scary
Yup.A Conservative intellectual is a contradiction in terms, so the right tends to attract a broad church of adherents from the "just a bit dim" to the outright barking. Being educated or well spoken does not disguise their ignorance or bonkerism I believe, as the English are prone to confusing good manners and tailoring with breeding and integrity.
Imho anyway,other opinions may differ etc.
Will it be [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michele_Bachmann ]Bachman[/url]/[url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_palin ]Palin[/url] or [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_palin ]Palin[/url]/[url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michele_Bachmann ]Bachman[/url]?
It's probably because right wing minded people tend to think for themselves more, therefore you get a broader scope of opinions. And it's the dafter ones that make the media.
With the left wing, it's more a case of the state controlling what they want you to think, what opinions are acceptable, what words are "out" this year etc. Far more scary if you ask me.
what words are "out" this year etc
Which department fulfills that particular role then?
the PC brigade darcy! haven't you heard?
I phillybuster
Are you and Yeti cumming to Bristol this weekend? x
we was discussing that yesterday deadly.... let me get onto a friend and see what can be organised. i gotta busybumblebee weekend planned so could only get down for the film on friday (that's a point, are tickets available still?)
are you working friday during the day?
are you working friday during the day?
For you, I can "not be working" and well lubed.
i'm not promising anything... but i'll speak to the people i need to speak to and see what i can arrange.
now, lets see if i can convince a friend its worth driving to bristol for a 45 minute film haha ๐
Don't sweat it too much philly - we can always arrange a sexy Bristol weekend another time. ๐
hmmm that might have to happen...if i dont email you by wednesday with plans then i think it will have to be another weekend.
sorry binners, took it a bit off topic there. punish me x
US left-wingers/democrats are comfortably to the right of either of our main parties
I'm not sure what you base that on, I consider the Democrats to be to the left of New Labour, and they are certainly to the left of the Tory Party. Are you [i]seriously[/i] suggesting that Bill Clinton was "comfortably" to the right of David Cameron ?
As far as "rational right wingers" is concerned, yes of course there are plenty of them - there is nothing irrational about someone wanting to protect their wealth, power, and privileges.
What is completely irrational is people who have barely a pot to piss in voting for them.
Why d'you think there are not many poor conservatives? Why d'you think they call them 'conservatives'?
I think you have to be somewhat lacking in the empathy department to be properly right wing.
Ferkin Hell. I do find it tiresome hearing some poor poor bloke not being able to say what he wants cos those bloody PC'ers are ****in stopping him.
What is it they are actually trying to stop you from saying. I've heard so many whiney right wingers complaining about those lefty pcers lately yet they never actually define what they are being stopped from doing or saying. What actually is it?
Hell. I'm sure a larger percentage of the Republicans in the USA these days don't say **** as much as much as they used to in the 1960's or 70's. Is that sooooooo bad?
Is it so abhorrent that you are being stopped from saying that word? Or do you think you have the right to say ****, pakki, yid, wop, fag, pikey, etc etc etc
Be really interesting to see you explain the restrictions the leftist statists are imposing on you. Cheers.
I would answer that but apparently I am left wing and cant think for myself, sorry.
PS they told me to say that the [s]bastards[/s] people with less familiarity with both parents than can be found in nuclear family.
There's a few barking replies from right wingers [url= http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t806387/ ]here[/url].
Thank goodness we don't get any of that nonsense here on STW.
Before anyone else clicks on MTQG's link it is for "Stormtroopers, White Nationalist News and Discussion for Racial Realists". I realise some of you may not want that on your work internet history.
I think that the further you get towards the extremes of any demographic, the further you get from any sort of sanity and rational thought. It's not just the right wing, it's true of lefties, christians, vegetarians, cyclists...
OOOHHHHHH if I convert to Christianity I can get a clean sweep there ah no I would need to get a bike as well forget that plan.
Are all left wing leaders genocidal maniacs?
Stalin
Mao
Kim il Sung
Kim Jong il
Pol Pot
Zulu, you left out Robert Mugabe, and the leaders of pretty much every African nation, up to and including Ghadaffi and Mubarak.
Are all right wing people bonkers? No... Opinionated and more concerned with their own wellbeing than yours possibly, but not bonkers.
Are all American Politicians bonkers? No... Trying to uphold the badge "the land of the free and the home of the brave" might seem ironic to you and me, but I'm sure they genuinely do believe they live in the greatest country on earth.
Does seem to be something that happens when you combine the terms "right wing" and "American politician" though which seems to give birth to some kind of egomaniacal, gun toting, bible bashing, demonic freak with very privileged upbringing but sadly an IQ significantly lower than average, that despite all just said will have the strongest support from those who are the least fortunate in society!
Only in America...
China is No1.
I guess that's an economic fact.
Are all left wing leaders genocidal maniacs?
Do try not to derail the thread with your usual shite.
yossarian - Member
Aaron Lennon?
This thread progressed too fast for this to be appreciated.
Hell. I'm sure a larger percentage of the Republicans in the USA these days don't say **** as much as much as they used to in the 1960's or 70's. Is that sooooooo bad?
We'll just ignore the Democrat governors that tried to block racial integration in the Southern states, then?
and the leaders of pretty much every African nation, up to and including Ghadaffi and Mubarak.
๐ LOL @ the suggestion that "pretty much every" African leader is a left wing genocidal maniac !
"Hosni Mubarak" ....... Israel's and the United States's greatest friend in the region ๐
And of course Maggie Thatcher was one of Pol Pot's biggest supporters, as was Ronald Reagan. They were absolutely furious when the Leftie government in Vietnam ordered the invasion of Cambodia so that an end could be put to Pol Pot's killing fields/genocide - they carried on supporting Pol Pot long after he had been ousted from power by the Vietnamese.
We'll just ignore the Democrat governors that tried to block racial integration in the Southern states, then?
Yeah, southern Democrats - you've picked some really left wing types there. Even their president JFK, thought they were a bunch of nutters - and sent in the National Guard to enable black students to attend universities when Southern "Democrat" politicians tried to stop them (I think...could be wrong there).
Of course, our friends the Southern "Democrats" with of all people, Republicans then did all they could in Congress to combat anything Kennedy was doing on other fronts to combat poverty elsewhere.
So, Southern "Democrats" aside, in the 1960s, it was still real Democrats who enacted the Civil Rights Bill and it was Kennedy who communicated with the Kings.
Who did his level best to disrupt King? Why, that right wing nutter J. Edgar Hoover - a man with what can only be described as a pornographic hatred of the "left".
Apologies if its already been done (been away a bit) but assumed you were talking about this
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/aug/15/david-starkey-newsinght-race-remarks
I think binners had the likes of Michele Bachmann who is making a bid for the US presidency in his mind Pieface. I don't think a woman who believes homosexuality is the work of Satan and that "sufferers" should pray to be cured, quite compares with David Starkey who supports the Tory Campaign for Homosexual Equality.
I don't think a woman who believes homosexuality is the work of Satan and that "sufferers" should pray to be cured
Sounds like a few right wing politicians' wives in Northern Ireland ๐ Here's to you Mrs Robinson
Yeah, southern Democrats - you've picked some really left wing types there. Even their president JFK, thought they were a bunch of nutters - and sent in the National Guard to enable black students to attend universities when Southern "Democrat" politicians tried to stop them (I think...could be wrong there)
So, some left-wingers are nutters, and some aren't? Sounds a bit like the rest of the political spectrum tbh.
I'd suggest that Southern Democrats weren't left wing at all, nor would they describe themselves as such. Anyway, the thread is about right wing nutters. You actually picked a good example of right wing nutters.
My sister in law is a republican, whilst being a lovely lady. She believes in individual enterprise and less interference from the government. So if you want to be successful you have to try hard and succeed. I have not discussed the matter in depth with her but she seems to share her opinions with her father with whom I have. He thinks that you should be on your own, and you should fight for a good job and so on. The problem with this viewpoint is that some people are not really capable of succeeding in a competitive world. For there to be winners, there have to be losers - and he would not accept this point.
I dunno how he thinks you can have a race without anyone coming last...
Anyway, the thread is about right wing nutters. You actually picked a good example of right wing nutters
Highlights the way it all gets a bit hard to decide what's really right wing, and what's left. Is Tony Blair, for example, right or left wing?
Anyway, right wingers that aren't complete nutters: the vast majority of them. Palin and her Tea Party friends are often listed as examples of right wing extremists, but there's a reason a significant proportion of the US population supports them, and that wouldn't happen if their politics were completely out of touch with local opinion.
I think the idea (ideology) is that even those coming last in his world would at least be independent and less of a burden on the state....
....whereas those who come last in a socialist world are usually not doing anything very much at all except being supported by the state.
For what its worth there has to be some kind of middle ground but people most motivated to get into politics usually have firmly held Left or Right wing beliefs and dont want to compromise.
