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Why is this, just out of (professional) interest?
Won't be using public transport or be around the public either so no need to wear one.
I have been and gloves.
It might be a placebo but if I have covid and it stops me spreading it all over people who for some unknown reason won't keep 2mts. less work for the NHS and the sooner you can all get back to work
I don't wear one to protect either others or myself. I wear a buff purely to comply with German law in the supermarket etc. Buff gets put on at the entrance, and pulled back down again the moment I step out in to fresh air again.
Not so bad right now, but it's gonna be fun in July if it's 38C outside.
The probability of someone infected, infectious and coughing/sneezing while you are in their vicinity is already extremely small.
Isn't the point mostly that it's there to reduce your ability to spread virus if you are infected rather than to protect you from others.
Isn’t the point mostly that it’s there to reduce your ability to spread virus if you are infected rather than to protect you from others.
The emphasis being on ‘if you are infected’. I’m very confident that I’m not.
As and when I finally go back to work, if wearing a mask when in the presence of others, I’ll wear a buff, which I do at work anyway.
Went to the chemists to get my parent’s prescriptions for them yesterday with my two layers of buff pulled up over my face and my gloves only to realise I’d forgotten the sawn off
We’ve all been there my friend. I might ask my mum to knit me one of those 80’s woollen balaclavas that just had the one big eye hole.
Yes.
It's mandatory in Qatar and has quicky become the new normal. Seeing someone without a mask is the strange thing. No big deal.
You can buy packs of government subsidised surgical masks from chain chemists such as Boots very reasonably.
All shops now take your temp on entry and supermarkets have glove wearing as mandatory (they are supplied).
They help and as it's not actually that big a deal, why not?
You avoid spreading things yourself, breathing things in, and touching your face with your hands. It was 39 degC here today and still fine.
Yep.
Inside shops & on public transport.
I’m in Z3 of Landaaarrrnnn...
Been wearing either ffp2/3 for weeks now when in shops, chemist etc.
Only time I don't wear one is if imn just going for a walk or ride as I can happily stay away from people. Even then I have a fold flat p3 mask in my pocket just in case.
I'm "shielding" someone so it's more about me not catching it rather than protecting others as such. Hence p2/3 masks.
I too can be seen wearing them in a car by myself occasionally as once the mask is on, it doesn't get touched till I am home and indoors. I'm absolutely fastidious about how I use them too.
Initial annoyance was glasses steaming up but a tiny amount of soap polished into lens sorts that.
Well I for one am pleased to find out that buffs and bits of old pyjamas are going to save us all.
I’m surprised people who work with asbestos and other (much larger than a virus) Airbourne hazards didn’t get on this years ago!
Tradesman called today to do some work at home, he wore a mask and rubber gloves seemed strange at first chatting to somebody off Casualty
Well I for one am pleased to find out that buffs and bits of old pyjamas are going to save us all.
I’m surprised people who work with asbestos and other (much larger than a virus) Airbourne hazards didn’t get on this years ago!
How many folk exhale asbestos?
^^ Lol, good point!
Well I for one am pleased to find out that buffs and bits of old pyjamas are going to save us all.
I’m surprised people who work with asbestos and other (much larger than a virus) Airbourne hazards didn’t get on this years ago!
I'm ready for your suggestions that will help the general public then?
How many folk exhale asbestos?
They wouldn’t need to worry about it getting in to start with if they had a magic buff on
I’m ready for your suggestions that will help the general public then?
Well you could pull your tee shirt up over your nose like when someone farted at primary school
Or go with a proper ffp3 mask at a minimum, but then that costs actual money and didn’t come free with a magazine
"The general public" need/should wear masks to protect others if they have the virus so ffp3 not necessary or achievable given the numbers. So buffs,scarf, homemade stuff do the job to one degree or another.
Ffp2/3 are more about protecting the wearer rather that protecting those around the wearer.
What is the rate of infection like in Muslim countries where a lot of the population already have to cover their faces?
A lot of the population?
Do you mean women?
But a fabric mask like that won’t stop inhalation/exhalation on any meaningful level as you can still breathe though it pretty much unhinded.
I believe things like that and gloves just breed complacency.
Get given gloves to go round the supermarket with? Pick up loads of stuff, I’m ok, I’ve got gloves on, get your phone/card out to pay, put it back in your pocket or bag.
How many people can honestly say they’ve disinfected their card,wallet,handbag,phone, put all their clothes on a boil wash when they get home
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How many people can honestly say they’ve disinfected their card,wallet,handbag,phone, put all their clothes on a boil wash when they get home
Hand on heart I do all that apart from the clothing boil wash. That gets treated as potentially contaminated (not so much of I've just been for a walk rather than a fast shop) and I change out of it in the hall. Goes on a long wash. From what I've read, cv19 only lasts a matters of hours on fabrics. I rarely go to shops so by the next time I wear that clothing I hope everything is inert.
I also spray all parcels/food packaging that comes into the house with a disinfectant that kills other corona viruses in the hope it kills cv19 too.
I don't take wallet. Just card. Avoid taking mobile but if I have to it'll stay, untouched, in my pocket unless my smart watch says it's a call I must take.
If used, card and phone get cleaned with IPA. Watch gets cleaned, separately before I wash hands again.
No handbag.👍
I'm no trained lab tech but I'm doing my bloody best. I don't wear gloves as I consider them pointless for me. I consider that the act of taking them off can cross contaminate me and wash my hands anyway. So I don't wear them and concentrate on the hand washing. Spray bottle of IPA always in pocket when out.
I'm fastidious with masks and fully aware of cross contamination risks and they certainly don't make me complacent. Quiet the opposite.
I'm not even beginning to suggest all the above is necessary for most. My cousin is a bit different to many. It's just how I'm handling this situation based on the assumption that Covid is going to be around for some time and I need to get in to good routines for the long term.
How many people can honestly say they’ve disinfected their card,wallet,handbag,phone, put all their clothes on a boil wash when they get home
We've negated that by not going to the Supermarket 🙂 Delivery today.... we've not been ANYWHERE to come in contact with people and will continue to do so.
Or go with a proper ffp3 mask at a minimum, but then that costs actual money and didn’t come free with a magazine
So we should all buy proper PPE and stop the health services from being able to have them ? Seems, well, pretty wrong to me. I'd happily go with the best mask money can buy, but personally i feel that should be worn by the guy/girl treating Covid patients, not some random bloke walking round a Tescos.
TBH i think you're throwing up a pretty negative view when people are just trying (maybe failing) to keep other people alive.
How many people can honestly say they’ve disinfected their card,wallet,handbag,phone, put all their clothes on a boil wash when they get home
The viral load on an item is going to be tiny, as is any chance of high enough viral load when passing someone on a bike unless they sneeze directly into your face as you ride by.
Going into a shop or office for long periods of time is completely different and stopping some of the breath droplets coming out of each person for many hours is the best thing to do.
Wear a mask in indoor places, wash hands regularly if out and about - done.
I’ve said it before but one of the German virologists who was in charge of the mass testing experiment in one Hotspot village near Bonn was on a live debate talking about his findings. They tested surfaces in homes where all the residents were C9+ and though they found a lot of traces of RNA they were unable to grow them in a culture in the lab , suggesting that the C9 was no longer able to infect. His hypothesis was that most transmissions were from airborne particles after prolonged contact ( more than ten minutes) with an infected person, usually inside. He was also a little skeptical about the use of masks as he thought it would make people more complacent. The debate was before masks became mandatory.
I wore a mask for the first time in a shop yesterday...got a few looks, but more space which was nice.
I felt a bit like a tool tbh...but I’d rather look like a tool than be a dick for killing someone by being an asymptomatic carrier.
Initial annoyance was glasses steaming up but a tiny amount of soap polished into lens sorts that.
If your glasses are steaming up with a proper P2 or P3 mask, that means you don't have a good mask-face seal (which means that the mask is significantly less effective at protecting you).
You'll likely have to pull the elastic a bit tighter, or shape the mask around your nose to get a better seal.
The emphasis being on ‘if you are infected’. I’m very confident that I’m not.
Out of interest, how do you know?
For those making masks, you can use sections of old tights as the ear loops - very comfortable.
What is the rate of infection like in Muslim countries where a lot of the population already have to cover their faces?
Ok, as I live in a Muslim country, I'll bite.
Women don't "have" to cover their faces just because it's a Muslim country. In fact, even in Saudi Arabia or Iran, which are the most controlling of countries, women only have to cover their hair.
Many places in the Middle East, eg Qatar or Dubai, women are expected to cover knees and shoulders, but this is a cultural thing. Wearing a miniskirt in the street Qatar would be a similar thing to wearing a bikini in the street in the UK. You're not going to be arrested; it's just inappropriate. Likewise, wearing a bikini round the pool in Qatar is certainly appropriate and totally normal.
Ok, as I live in a Muslim country, I’ll bite.
For a moment there I thought you were going to answer the question.