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Aye, sorry got myself confused as I was looking at a new Punto Evo Sporting that mentioned Stop/Start...I meant the Alfa Multiair doodah is the same as the Fiat's as it is the same thing...
I had a loan 120d with stop/start and it was the most stupid "innovation" I've ever seen in a car.
Would the cowardly tagger like to point out WHERE I'm wrong? Of course not, it would mean revealing yourself.
Sad little dweeb.
The Giulietta is a good looking car. Although it is another poorly packaged conversion from LHD to RHD (like so many Audis!) so that with 3 pedals the driving position is very offset. I'd have to have a two pedal model before I could drive one without affecting my dodgy back.
Would the cowardly tagger like to point out WHERE I'm wrong? Of course not, it would mean revealing yourself.Sad little dweeb.
I'm quite happy to state that I put up the original tag.
If, in your opinion, I'm a sad little dweeb, that's fine. However, mixing opinion and fact does seem to be one of your talents - possibly an occupational hazard of the PR industry?
On the other hand, if you can demonstrate that:
Alfa has been peddling average GM cars in drag then selling them as "sporty" for too long.
is correct, then I'll quite happily remove the tag.
From what I can see, your statement is incorrect - ie WRONG. You consistently post on car / motoring related threads with an assumed authority that belies your mixing of fact and opinion. Perhaps your musings on cars would be better valued if you acknowledged the occasional error or differentiated between your own opinions and accepted facts?
On one point you are correct though, I am a sad little dweeb for rising to your opinionated nonsense.
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And of course, if anyone does test drive a Giulietta, I'd love to know what you think. I might have to get around to booking one myself...
No problem.
The fact you feel the need to anonymously tag speaks volumes.
Enjoy the Punto...
Enjoy the Punto...
Oh, I do 😉 - in the same way that you enjoy the Jimny...
... it's a light(ish), nippy, fun little car.
ETA
The fact you feel the need to anonymously tag speaks volumes
I wasn't aware that I had TBH... the tag shows my username against it when I view the site?? It's the only time I've tagged a thread, so perhaps I need to look at the settings in future 😉
D'ya mean me? Sorry... not been paying attention!
What do you have at the moment - 147 / 156?
145! an ex demonstrator thats way into 6 figure milage 🙂 the only bit thats ever gone wrong was made by Bosch... although I do have a large amount of mechanical sympathy and can pretty much hear/smell when maintainance is needed.
Pretty sure my drive was in the multiair, although I couldnt guarantee it. Was at a slightly pompous launch where I only really got to drive it gently and comment politely on the interior. Was nice. far too much going on for my tastes though. It was refined, quiet, smooth. not as go-karty as i prefer.... but in many ways exactly what it should be for modern driving conditions.
Regarding the parent group - May not have prestige or reliabilty of some 'status' brands. However I admire innovation. In many cars the cleverest engineering is that of perception (IMO)
Old Alfas were lovely cars - that's why the current crop annoy me. No innovation, just tarted up bodyshells on dull chassis with largely dull engines.
Old Alfas were superb. Unreliable but SO fun.
I miss my Alfa 🙁
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that's gorgeous
refined, quiet, smooth. not as go-karty as i prefer
Oh, dear - that really isn't very encouraging 😕
i thought the Giulietta was designed to appeal to the fairer sex and that's why they have Uma advertising it and it does look a bit of a hairdressers car to me
I learnt to drive in my Dads Alfa, which was like that, apart from being a 1750 GTV.
It was lovely to drive, but then so were my 156s...
Anybody who think MGB GTs were any good should drive one of these old Alfas to see what a joke car the MGs were. Got a review from its time of a 1750 versus its contempories at the time - an E type Jag, a BMW 2002 and something else. The Alfa wins easily - the Jag is mediocre...
only bit thats ever gone wrong was made by Bosch
Interesting point. I get mine serviced by Alitalia in Wrexham and thats what he says, "the bits that go wrong are German!"
Surf-matt just stop posting.
Where's that picture taken? Looks a bit like the hairpin on the Bwlch road into Treorchy
Surfer - what because I dare not to like your car? Of course it's fine for you to have a go about mine isn't it?
Did you score waves over the weekend or is your username just a ruse?
that's why the current crop annoy me. No innovation, just tarted up bodyshells on dull chassis with largely dull engines.
Didn't most cars stop having chassis sometime in the 1960's?
Errmmm - so what are everyone's wheels, engines, etc connected to then?
Monocoque.
Except for jeeps and lr discos.
I love my Alfa, even if there's nothing remarkable underneath the gorgeous exterior. There's nevertheless something about an Alfa that feels a bit special. Yes, I know the driveway needs work...
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Can't deny that the above is a fine looking motor.
And the driveway needs less work than ours!
Surfer - what because I dare not to like your car? Of course it's fine for you to have a go about mine isn't it?
I've never mentioned your car.
I dont care that you dont like them its just that you are so vocal and long winded in your dislike. Your experience seems limited yet you post from an apparent position of expertise.
And whats more you have made a thread about Alfa's boring! Thats both difficult and unforgivable.
It was pretty dull early on really. In fact reading this and the other popular car thread has serious made me worry that we're all just as dull and boring when we talk about bikes
Stupid advert for stupid prospective owners. And hairdressers 😉
Maybe we should stick to toilet humour and boob pics?
Suits me fine.
Me too...
i thought the Giulietta was designed to appeal to the fairer sex and that's why they have Uma advertising it and it does look a bit of a hairdressers car to me
I know what you mean - but Alfas always seem to be a man's choice of "pretty" car.
Some marques do a pretty / stylish car and it does become a bit of a girls / hairdresser statement, dare I suggest, MX5, BMW mini, Beetle mk2, 205 CTi.
To describe a mechanical object in "humanised" terms, Alfa's seem to me to have a male:female attraction[b]*[/b] rather than a female:female affinity. The last GTV coupe is a good example - very pretty, but not something I'd regard as a sterotypical womans car. The Fiat Coupe of the same era was equally stylish, but much more "muscular" in appearance - Now show me a clean 20V NA Fiat Coupe and I would be very tempted...
[b]*[/b] Presumably this is where the Alfa ad folks are going with the Uma Thurman tie in - trying to elicit the "Mmmm sexy, I want" type response.
Mmmm sexy, I want
Yeah, from fat middle-aged frustrated men who can actually take an advert of that level of stupidity seriously...
That 159 has the rear door handles in the wrong place...
I've just seen one on the M6 - I thought it was a new Astra at first. Should I get my coat?
Should I get my coat?
Interesting question. The only qualifying criteria that have been declared publicly so far for participating in a motoring-related thread are an appreciation of the benefits of rear-wheel drive, and of the relative advantages and disadvantages of petrol engines when compared to diesel ones.
Nobody has yet ruled on the importance of the ability to distinguish one family hatchback from another on the motorway (that I've seen anyway)...
Should I get my coat?
No - first time I saw an Astra I thought the Giulietta had been launced early 🙁
Anyway, someone mentioned skiing - I'm no longer interested in cars 😉
Have had a 164,155,75,166 and 156. Out of them all the 75 was an absolute bloody lunatic, I miss it so much! The 155 reminded me of my old 205 GTI, pointy and revvy. The rest, good enough cars but a bit meh really, the present 156 I have is a very quick point to point car for very little cash but I think it says it all when the one I enjoyed most is the one made before Fiat bought them over.
It was mental, inboard discs, de-dion axle, gearbox over the rear axle for weight distribution and the buttons for the windows were in the centre of the roof, thats what modern alfas lack, mechanical flair and a bit of daftness. Oh yeah, ironically it was pig ugly 🙂
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Mine was red of course!
Folks seem to be ditching these at the mo V6 engined GT - high CO2 / Tax / fuel, but at under £9k....
Now to find a nice late low mileage red one.... 😛
Could I, should I...
It would be [b]VERY [i]SILLY[/i]...[/b]
Brake-neck - that is seriously stunning...but I like boxy angular cars...
Old Alfas were superb. Unreliable but SO fun.
You must be a fair bit older than me, I never got to drive them as contemporary vehicles 🙁
SO fun
Are you American? or just a bit camp?
[i]a bright red 309 GTi [/i]
+1
I had a pre-facelift black one, with the full electric pack and the huge slidy roof. Quick, but if you wanted to, could be driven around in 5th at 30mph - wonderful 8v injected motor.
And on Alfa's, a friend recently bought a Brera. I've driven it and what it really needs is an auto box (its the 3.2), and then it would be a perfect Grand Tourer. This replaced a 2.5 156 that went pop, even though he'd religously looked after it - when it went in for a belt service they found that it had crankshaft float, it had only done 90k!
[i]I don't think the question should be has anyone test driven an Alfa but has anyone driven 50k miles in one....[/i]
I had a 96P Alfa 146 with a 1.6 boxer engine that I bought with 12k miles on. New clutch at 100k miles and another new clutch at 133k (cheap pattern clutch, what can you expect?). That engine sounded fantastic, and was pretty quick
If the cheap chain fast fit grease monkey had done a proper job putting the gearbox driveshafts back together after he'd fitted the new clutch, it would have lasted a hell of a lot longer. Oh what the hell. They're in Keighley, opposite B&Q. Don't let them touch anything other than your tyres, and even those I'd take the wheels off yourself & roll them in
next car was a 156 T-Spark with 4k miles on the clock, which I traded in after (a) cambelt failure and (b) head gasket failure (both fixed under warranty BTW) at 76k miles.
would I have another? If the boot on the 159 SW was big enough, yes I would