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thatcher wanted a war to take peoples minds off what she had done to the working classes and british industry, just like this year, with another ...........
you beat me to it big_n_daft 🙂
Someone spilt someone else's pint
And here was me thinking it was because British territory was invaded by a hostile force. Ho hum.
Well first the Earth cooled, and then....
thatcher wanted a war to take peoples minds off what she had done to the working classes and british industry
lol!
Nothing to do with the junta in Argentina wanting to stir up nationalism to take the heat off the screwed state of the nation then ?
I thought it was because we were making cutbacks in the region which was interpreted by the Argentinian Government as a signal that we were no longer interested in the Islands.
And here was me thinking it was because British territory was invaded by a hostile force. Ho hum.
An island off the coast of scotland I seem to remember.
Anyone who thinks that there is ever a single cause of a war is naive at best, and foolish at worst.
They've not started cutting up the carriers and harriers yet have they?
Wasn't it something to do with a lady who wasn't for turning?
Falkland Islands began more than 1000 million years ago glacial sediments were turned into stone they formed the rocks or something.
I thought it was because we were making cutbacks in the region which was interpreted by the Argentinian Government as a signal that we were no longer interested in the Islands.
Well it was a combination of Thatcher ordering that HMS Endurance, the only Royal Naval presence in the South Atlantic, be withdrawn, plus the 1981 Nationality Act which stripped the Falkland Islander's of their British citizenship, that convinced the Junta that Britain was no longer interested in the Falklands. And which they saw as a nod and a wink/green light.
allthepies - Memberthatcher wanted a war to take peoples minds off what she had done to the working classes and british industry
lol!
Nothing to do with the *unta in england wanting to stir up nationalism to take the heat off the screwed state of the nation then ?
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There fixed it for you.
lol, rofla.
The same was true of both sides project. On the one hand Thatcher was by then, the most unpopular British Prime Minister ever recorded, and she was certain to lose the next general election. And on the other hand, it was the dying days of a Junta which was also deeply unpopular. Both needed to whip up support which they lacked due their failed policies.
The irony is that up until that point, there was a mutual admiration for each other between the Tories and the Junta. They shared pretty much identical economic policies, and under Thatcher Britain was training and arming the Argentine military, despite the fact that the Junta was at war with its own people and torturing and slaughtering Argentines - something which Thatcher fully supported.
project - Member
thatcher wanted a war to take peoples minds off what she had done to the working classes and british industry, just like this year, with another ...........
And there was me thinking that we went to war in order to recapture British sovereign territory from a military dictatorship that had precisely no popular mandate amongst the overwhelmingly pro-British population.
The fact that this also happened at the height of the Cold War was no small factor either. What on earth do you think the Soviet Union would have made of it if the second most powerful country in NATO hadn't bothered to defend it's own territory against a third rate Latin American state?
Grow up FFS!
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What on earth do you think the Soviet Union would have made of it if the second most powerful country in NATO hadn't bothered to defend it's own territory against a third rate Latin American state?
So it was all done simply to impress the Soviet Union ?
And you suggest that [i]others[/i] "grow up" ?
ernie_lynch - MemberSo it was all done simply to impress the Soviet Union ?
And you suggest that others "grow up" ?
Yes, that's exactly the thrust of my post.
Selective quotation is awesome.
You have won the internet.
no need for the "grow up" comments fellas.
Bravo, Ernie is [i]always[/i] right. He is all of teh internet awesomeness. Didn't you know?
Is that t he same soviet union that now fails to exist, and was the uk the second strongest country in NATO, now a third world country, being bought out by the chinese and indians.
Grow up, bravohotel8er, AND STOP VOTING CONSERVATIVE.Its bad for the country and jobs.
Selective quotation is awesome.
Well bothers you, let's have the [i]whole[/i] quote
And there was me thinking that we went to war in order to recapture British sovereign territory from a military dictatorship that had precisely no popular mandate amongst the overwhelmingly pro-British population.The fact that this also happened at the height of the Cold War was no small factor either. What on earth do you think the Soviet Union would have made of it if the second most powerful country in NATO hadn't bothered to defend it's own territory against a third rate Latin American state?
Grow up FFS!
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So it was all done simply to impress the Soviet Union ?
And you suggest that others "grow up" ?
Oh and i grew up when all this was happening, and now am watching an exact rerun, with another fool in charge .
It's been nothing but fools in charge since the last one.
Oh and i grew up when all this was happening, and now am watching an exact rerun, with another fool in charge .
Did you miss the REALLY big screwup with that fella Blair a few years ago ?
bliar didnt do anything worthwhile only resign.
Which war have the Tory Party started recently?
CaptainFlashheart - MemberBravo, Ernie is always right.
A lesson which you very quickly learnt Flashheart.
But to be fair, you very rarely ever attempt to argue a political point with [i]anyone[/i] Flashheart - which is undoubtedly based on the acute self-awareness that you are invariably out of your depth.
The one against the working classes ,the family and the industrial workforce of the uk.
Your overbearing self-importance is showing again, Ernie. Put it away.
CaptainFlashheart - Member
Your overbearing self-importance is showing again, Ernie. Put it away.
You make him sound like a conservative.
Well you might be surprised to learn Flashheart, that that doesn't bother me.
And you resorting to totally irrelevant little digs makes it worthwhile for me.
Glad to provide some saitsfaction for your existence.
thatcher wanted a war to take peoples minds off what she had done to the working classes and british industry,
That has to be the most bitter twisted pile of crap I've ever read on STW
Double post
Everyone knows flashy only has pithy put downs and no substance he will probably reference the labour [iraq war?] soon rather than say something about the tories
PP are you claiming thatcher was so politically naive that it did not cross her mind that it might just make her popular if she had a war - FFS you probably think Bush never had the same thougtht before his war on terror
you really should read more on here if you think that is the most twisted thing on stw gay shari swans doing jihad anyone?
That has to be the most bitter twisted pile of crap I've ever read on STW
not really, loads more tosh to come
That has to be the most bitter twisted pile of crap I've ever read on STW
Well you don't need to rely on STW to read that "bitter twisted pile of crap"........it is a very widespread point of view held by many people across society.
There is no doubt at all that Thatcher was the most unpopular British Prime ever recorded before the Falklands War. Nor is there any doubt at all that she benefited hugely from the Falklands War.
From the [i]Daily Telegraph[/i] :
[i]The liberation of the Falklands, which came at the cost of 236 British fatalities and the loss of a number of Royal Navy vessels, was a personal triumph for Margaret Thatcher and would prove to be the defining moment of her premiership. [/i]
PeterPoddy - Memberthatcher wanted a war to take peoples minds off what she had done to the working classes and british industry,
That has to be the most bitter twisted pile of crap I've ever read on STW
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Your opinion , my opinion, history will tell the truth and is.
Good to an STW grown up discussion in progress. Can't be long before the chop is delivered by the mods/stasi...
PP ar eyou claiming thatcher was so politically naive that it did nto cross her mind tha **** might just make her popular if she had a war
and it carries on
Also all the sailors that where killed on the Belgrano and other ships, no need at all.