Ice on the car windows this morning but warmed up this afternoon so maybe hold off a little longer as I'm a tightwad.
just amended our pattern.
hot water 5.30-5.45 heating (18 c ) 5.30- 6.00
pm hw 6.00- 6.10 heating (20 c ) 6 - 7.30
thus far the heating hasnt actually come on.. so all cosy on the pennines
last years gas usage at similar settings was 16k kwh
(4 bed detached 4 people)
Sort the draught out then!
no that would ruin the aesthetics, besides the radiator isnt on in the hall, so whats the problem.
sorting out all draughts makes a big difference in your perception of how cold it is. The room may be only 1/2 degree cooler due to the draught, but if your sat in one, even a very light one will make you feel much colder.
I draught-proofed my home, turned down the heating and halved my bills. Much more comfortable and the rooms are barely different in ambient temperature (measured with proper thermometers)
Are your internal walls between the hall and heated rooms ?
Off until the clocks go back. Though since the bedroom is at the top of a well insulated three story house I'm tempted to fit another thermostat up there, assuming I can find the pipes.
to be fair, the walls are pretty solid, the doors however are not at all and with not insignificant gaps at the bottom, due to floorboards/laminate rather than carpet.
dont tell 'her', but i have control of the thermostat in the boiler.
but those of you who like an argument, once you have finished the thermostat/radiators/draughts issue, might like to move on to the drying clothes by hanging them directly over the radiators.
yes, been on a couple of weeks now - wife has a paranoia about baby bakes turning into an ice lolly overnight.
Still on solar thermal for the hot water here. Tank full of 60deg water. When it only manages to get to 50deg by the end of the day, it's time to think about turning the biomass boiler on.
No need of heating yet. House is a cozy 20+deg in the evening thanks to the solar gain through the main south window letting the sun heat the floor.
However, it hasnt been cold down here on the malverns yet
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Still warm on the south coast. Warm is a relative thing however. Wood store is full and ready for the first fire however.
Nope, and the way gas prices are going not likely to be for a while yet!
My missus also feels the cold but has come round to the prospect of wearing jumpers instead - only taken 8 years and a couple of big gas bills.
And I'm not northern!
24.5°C in here at present. In SW France we're still using the shutters to keep the house cool. Outside it reached about 23°C this afternoon and will drop to 7°C overnight according to the forecast.
Nope. The houses on either side are doing a grand job of keeping this place warm without us having to turn our heating on. Upstairs windows never close here.
Even during the great freeze of Dec 2010? You must be made of tough stuff.
Bolier packed in 2 years ago we've never replaced it, we use the immersion heater for the water. We have a log burner and use that it keeps the house warm enough. I think people rely too much on CH now, not that's a bad thing, but I grew up in a house that just had a coal fire that only heated the one room.
but I grew up in a house that just had a coal fire that only heated the one room
Me too, it took a lot of breathing and rubbing to make a sight hole in the frost on my bedroom window to see out. I now live in a house that only has a small wood burner in one room. The difference being two or three layers of glass instead of one, insulated floors without a gale blowing up around the edge of the boards etc..
"(was over £40 per fortnight/and always had thermostat on lowest setting)."how is that possible ? are you paying someone elses gas bill ?
Er, my central heating gas bills in the winter are c£130 every 7-10 days*.
But that's cos the idiot previous owners chose bottled LPG over oil when they installed central heating (no mains gas).
We've just lit our stove in the past few days - toasty..!
*Heating on 90 mins in the morning, 4 hours in the evening. All day at the weekends. Well insulated house. It's eye-wateringly expensive.
How big is the house though....
Cant you get a bulk lpg tank fitted ?
[i]Nope. The houses on either side are doing a grand job of keeping this place warm without us having to turn our heating on.[/i]
Aye, when I was a lad and it were cold we'd all sit round a candle - and when it came reet cold, we'd light it 🙄
Its currently 11c outside, just how cold do folk like to be in there own houses?
[i]Er, my central heating gas bills in the winter are c£130 every 7-10 days*.
But that's cos the idiot previous owners chose bottled LPG over oil when they installed central heating (no mains gas).
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We've an oil-fired AGA (circa £200pcm average through the year), always on.
Well insulated house
How many cms of insulation under the floor/floor baords?
How thick is your back door and what is in the sandwich?
How thick are the walls and what are they made of?
How many cms fo insulation do you have in the roof?
heating not on yet sitting around the house in shorts and a t shirt, most pleasant.
no that would ruin the aesthetics,
You're taking the piss, right...?
besides the radiator isnt on in the hall, so whats the problem.
Fine. Your money down the drain, not mine.
We have oil , gone from a piece of crap 20 year old vented tank system to a grant vortex combi and new twin panel convectior rads with trvs and judging by how quick it can heat the house up when i turn it on now it should cut our oil consumption by a mile compared to the time it used to take.
That and sticking 300mm insulation in attic, and walls upstairs with space blanket foil bubble wrap under all downstairs floor coverings the house seems to hold heat better than it did when we moved in.
Hmmm I'd noticed that I was feeling cold with no jacket on in the morning at the station.... having consulted a local weather stations records turns out it was 5 degrees!
No heating for me until at least October. I may consider a jacket if it keeps on being cold.
BTW. Isn't it better to have the heating on constantly at a low level than turn it on / off?
Yes - a little. A draughty house and have become a soft southern softy. Oh, the shame of it...
South east dweller. Heating will probably go on sometime around bonfire night and then the thermo around 17.5-18., grew up in houses with no central heating and just an open fire in the front room so can't stand sweltering hot rooms. Radiator in bedroom is always off.
PeterPoddy - Memberno that would ruin the aesthetics,
You're taking the piss, right...?
besides the radiator isnt on in the hall, so whats the problem.
Fine. Your money down the drain, not mine.
I wish i was taking the piss. Mrs-alias would obviously rather give our money away than admit she is wrong/mental/stupid
trail_rat - Member
We have oil , gone from a piece of crap 20 year old vented tank system to a grant vortex combi and new twin panel convectior rads with trvs and judging by how quick it can heat the house up when i turn it on now it should cut our oil consumption by a mile compared to the time it used to take.
If i give you an email address can you let me have the details on the system you've gone for? I'm on oil as well and the boiler is in danger of getting a preservation order slapped on it by National Heritage...
And yes the heating's on in Water End Herts
No choice here, the bloody radiators come on when only the hot water should be on. My wife is happy about this but ATM she's at work so I'm sitting here with the back door open & all heating switched off!
Hard as snails me.
Forget heating the house, just give everyone a hot water bottle.
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If you wish but its not complex
Its a grant vortex combi pro 26kw external unit
Delonghi double panels with trvs except in bathroom which has a fancy towel rail
Salus rf500 thermostat
[b]Gone for kiss at the moment. As we have had no hot water on tap since we moved in because the systems like esselgruntfuttocks where you had to have heating on to get hot water - coupled with some faulty motorised valves.
Drac - ModeratorEven during the great freeze of Dec 2010? You must be made of tough stuff.
Bolier packed in 2 years ago we've never replaced it, we use the immersion heater for the water. We have a log burner and use that it keeps the house warm enough. I think people rely too much on CH now, not that's a bad thing, but I grew up in a house that just had a coal fire that only heated the one room.
Aaah, so you do have at least some sort of heat source in your house then.
I remember that picture you posted of the snowfall with the ruler in it back in Nov or Dec 2010 and I think I know roughly what part of the country you live in and it wasn't the warmest, or should I say least cold, during that time.
I grew up in Plymouth and then a little place down in Cornwall and we did not have central heating (in Plymouth we had some of those rubbish 70s storage heaters), but luckily the winters were never that bad down there.
Yup, couple of (storage) heaters on here for a couple of weeks. One more tonight, but we have had two 'almost frosts' (this morning was 1*c)... Sadly we have only electric, and no choice of supplier as only one does the system we are on - estimated heating bill this year is £2400... 🙁
but I grew up in a house that just had a coal fire that only heated the one room.
Me too, that is why I put my heating on now, so I am not cold.
I don't want to be reminded of being permanently cold throughout my childhood. It was not pleasant. I like to feel warm.
Our thermostat thingie is somewhat akin to a nuclear power station control system. Apart from making the temp go up and down a bit, I dare not touch it.
PeterPoddy - MemberOurs is NEVER shut at night, whatever the temperature outside
Same here, we both like a really cold bedroom.
House heating is never set to more than 18deg for the rest of the house, our gas bill is in the lowest 10% in our area 😀
When the girlfriend is in. I've not had it on tonight while she's out. But when back she'll no doubt want it on!
Trail_Rat thanks for the info, I might be forced to look into getting one of these I'm in need of a new boiler. Details greatly appreciated
Heating has been 'on' permanently, although as it is set to 18 degrees C and has a fairly low start up temp it hasn't actually been on over the summer months. Comes on in a morning for an hour then from 16:30-20:30 up to 18 degrees C. That was enough for me the last couple of years since i had the new doors/windows, but MsD is moving in over the next month so my fuel bills are about to match the national debt!
I spent ten years living in a rented house with only one gas fire for heating and an immersion heater for hot water - a modern combi boiler is a thing of wonder compared to that!
Aaah, so you do have at least some sort of heat source in your house then.I remember that picture you posted of the snowfall with the ruler in it back in Nov or Dec 2010 and I think I know roughly what part of the country you live in and it wasn't the warmest, or should I say least cold, during that time.
Yeah and funnily enough put it on last night but only as I'd been swimming in the North Sea all afternoon and needed warmed through.
That year was a bit cool, got down to around -15c through the night.
i'm very jealous of all of you who have control of the insulation in your house and the type of boiler/heating system you use. My rented flat has an ancient, inefficient bowler and rubbish radiators with no thermostats.
I don't have heating any more. The AC is set to 25c though. It's one of the upsides of living on a boat in the Indian Ocean for 10 months of the year. There are downsides like being "at work" 24/7 and being bikeless for most of the year.
Oh, and being 5 hours ahead of GMT means that I have to endure the late night postings on here whilst eating my breakfast.
"I can be sitting in shorts and T shirt while she has jumpers and fleeces on and still complains she is cold."
Same here.
Not on yet it's not October. But as it's the equinox tonight, I can start wearing a jacket to work tomorrow. it's certainly cool at 6.30am now.
CaptJohn - hang in there.
Under the proposed Green Deal scheme, in a few years it will be obligatory for landlords to implement Green Deal approved changes if the tenant requests them.
Basically it will be law that if its economically beneficial (i.e. fuel savings are better than the capital cost and financing cost) to install say a modern efficient boiler or insulation or a heat pump etc, then the Landlord has to approve the works and the green deal financing cost gets attached to the electricity meter.
In the domestic sector, we are proposing
powers to require landlords to honour
reasonable requests from their tenants for
energy efficiency improvements, where financial
support is available so there are no upfront
costs to the landlord. We also intend to enable
local authorities to insist landlords of the
worst performing properties make all energy
efficiency improvements for which there is
financial support available, such as Green Deal
or ECO. Our intention is that this local authority
action would be focussed on landlords owning
properties with an EPC rating of F or G.
Still sleeping with bedroom window open
I have been glossing the rads upstairs so I will have to put the heating on today at some point help dry/rid the smell
