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Kind of. Turning 40 soon and fancy a posh watch to pass on. Set on an IWC pilot chrono but can't decide black face or grey (spitfire model).
Will be going for a (brown) leather rather than a bracelet, but you get the idea;
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I know, I know. Pointless, and my Gshock is a far better time teller etc.
But this is what it is and I am completely torn. I know there are some informed peeps here. Black is classic and bold, but that sunburst grey.....


 
Posted : 31/07/2016 12:07 am
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Sunburst grey. So much better in light.

And don't let anyone tell you the g shock is better!


 
Posted : 31/07/2016 12:12 am
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And don't let anyone tell you the g shock is better!

Lets be honest, as a practical thing which tells you the time, it is leagues ahead. It's ugly, it's soul-less, it's hard as ****ing nails, needs a new battery every ten years and keeps impeccable time. I do love the Gshocks. I just want something [i]nice[/i].
Thanks for the opinion, I'm leaning that way too.


 
Posted : 31/07/2016 12:16 am
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logged in to say the spitfire model.

nice.


 
Posted : 31/07/2016 12:20 am
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Older model but does the dial a bit more justice.. 😉

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Posted : 31/07/2016 12:24 am
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Nice, nick, but there is a [i]slight[/i] price difference.
The older spitfire had an in-house movement, as such they were suitably more expensive. The one linked here is just a different face colour, and a polished bezel. The bracelets have alternate polished links. same price, same modded ETA movement, essentially same watch. It's just a cosmetic choice really.
The black is more legible, more authentic, more tool-ey. For the proper watch geezer (which I am not), more proper. But that grey is [i]really[/i] nice.


 
Posted : 31/07/2016 12:29 am
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My own personal choice would be the grey face on the brown leather strap, black face on a black leather strap.

Go have a look in a dealership, have them in your hand under shop lights (a good dealer would let you look at them in daylight). That should help sway your decision.


 
Posted : 31/07/2016 5:29 am
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Also, you may be surprised with the price if you can find a new old stock 3706 model (from memory).

I bought a Zenith El Primero Grande Class Chronograph last month for £2500. From around 2012, never worn, £7000 when new - still had price ticket on it. Big watches aren't in fashion at the moment with collectors.


 
Posted : 31/07/2016 5:55 am
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Don't forget to try it for size first.

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Posted : 31/07/2016 6:12 am
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Drac - there is a subtle, but important difference between:

"[i]Turning 40 soon and fancy a posh watch to pass on[/i]"

and

"[i]Turning 40 soon and fancy a posh watch to pass[/i]"

Either way I guess the leather strap is the right way to go.


 
Posted : 31/07/2016 6:25 am
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You never know when you might have to hide it for 5 years.


 
Posted : 31/07/2016 6:30 am
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Go have a look in a dealership, have them in your hand under shop lights (a good dealer would let you look at them in daylight). That should help sway your decision.

I did, that's my photo. They didn't have the black or grey on leather in store. They did have the blue but I didn't like it so much.
The size is great, the MkXVIII looked like a girls watch on me.


 
Posted : 31/07/2016 10:16 am
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Definately grey for me looks superb, was only saying the other day to the missus I wonder if the big expensive brands will ever get on the GPS wagon, I love my garmin as so much more than just a watch


 
Posted : 31/07/2016 10:34 am
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If you've already checked them out in the coesh and still can't decide. Go for the black, will date less than the grey.

I think tool watches have a longer lasting appeal in their std colours rather than fashion or special editions.

I also prefer a bigger watch, the GC is 44mm, dwarfs my wrists and doesn't allow my shirt sleeve to fall over it without help. But it looks ace.


 
Posted : 31/07/2016 11:12 am
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I also prefer a bigger watch, the GC is 44mm, dwarfs my wrists and doesn't allow my shirt sleeve to fall over it without help. But it looks ace.

To be honest, at 43mm it didn't feel or look big. A bit tall maybe but that's chronos for you. I expected (and kind of hoped) the XVIII to be my favorite, I love its boldness but it looked too small.
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Not my pic (obv!)


 
Posted : 31/07/2016 11:22 am
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grey without a doubt


 
Posted : 31/07/2016 11:31 am
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Black for me.


 
Posted : 31/07/2016 12:12 pm
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You'd be surprised how quick they look 'right' though. I have an Elite GMT which at 38mm is tidley in comparison. It soon seems to fit your wrist though.


 
Posted : 31/07/2016 12:12 pm
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No cries of "HOW MUCH" yet?? Come on STW, you're slacking....... 😆


 
Posted : 31/07/2016 2:55 pm
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PS: GREY face imo!


 
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I prefer a black face on stainless watches. I have an IWC and like it very much, a minor gripe about the strap clip and adjustment but I think you'll be delighted with the watch.


 
Posted : 31/07/2016 2:59 pm
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Grey all day. Get the bracelet too if budget allows and a good price. The latest IWC micro adjustment looks awesomez.


 
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No cries of "HOW MUCH" yet?? Come on STW, you're slacking.......

HOW MUCH!!!!

(I rather like that XVIII up there, don't much care for chronos.)


 
Posted : 31/07/2016 3:14 pm
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Just found a 2016 unworn black face on black leather for £3,750.


 
Posted : 31/07/2016 3:36 pm
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Grey face is like buying a fashionable suit. In 5 years it'll be quirky but no one will actually want to own it & it'll feel like your 40th was way back in the dim & distant past. Whereas the black will look like it & you are forever young & classic


 
Posted : 31/07/2016 3:52 pm
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On watchfinder, sorry, cack internet connection.


 
Posted : 31/07/2016 3:53 pm
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Grey, it's stunning!


 
Posted : 31/07/2016 3:55 pm
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Nothing but jewellery for men. Overpriced tat sold by and to ****s with more money than imagination.


 
Posted : 31/07/2016 4:32 pm
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Nothing but jewellery for men. Overpriced tat sold by and to **** with more money than imagination.

You just stubbed your toe or something?


 
Posted : 31/07/2016 4:39 pm
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Jealousy is an ugly emotion.


 
Posted : 31/07/2016 4:43 pm
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Grey definitely. Lovely watch...


 
Posted : 31/07/2016 4:51 pm
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Nothing but jewellery for men. Overpriced tat sold by and to **** with more money than imagination.

...and normal service is resumed 😉


 
Posted : 31/07/2016 4:54 pm
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i too, dont get expensive watches or such, but i would choose the black.


 
Posted : 31/07/2016 4:56 pm
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If I was spending that kind of money I'd choose classic over interesting, i.e. the black.

However, seeing as it's your watch and heirloom then the more personal to you it is the better, right?


 
Posted : 31/07/2016 4:59 pm
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Jewellery perhaps, but miniature feats of incredible engineering and creativity certainly.

FWIW, I'd go for the grey, but I'd support LeeW's comment and go for the Zenith. I like their history and the company.

I'm looking for a 2010 "something" that I can wear for the next 12 years then give to one of my kids for their birthday. And run the risk of them turning their nose up at it because it's not their style. 🙂


 
Posted : 31/07/2016 5:03 pm
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However, seeing as it's your watch and heirloom then the more personal to you it is the better, right?

Yes, may as well get the one you like best. These things end up on ebay or the pawn shop anyway as the heir usually spunks the money away on a family holiday or something.


 
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@LeeW - sounds a great price for the El Primero. Happy days.


 
Posted : 31/07/2016 5:58 pm
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I like watches until I actually have them, then I realise they're uncomfortable, too expensive to risk wearing daily and don't have handy features like timers and alarms - which is why I wear a 15€ Decathlon digital thing.

But those two would be nice with a leather strap, and definitely black. The gray one looks tacky.


 
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Yes, may as well get the one you like best. These things end up on ebay or the pawn shop anyway as the heir usually spunks the money away on a family holiday or something.

Not in my experience. In a drawer maybe or worn only on special occasions but watches and jewelry I am personally aware of being gifted is treasured.


 
Posted : 31/07/2016 6:04 pm
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I love watches and the grey matches that strap well but I'd go black I think.


 
Posted : 31/07/2016 6:16 pm
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Yes, may as well get the one you like best. These things end up on ebay or the pawn shop anyway as the heir usually spunks the money away on a family holiday or something

Guess that depends on your relationship with the giver.


 
Posted : 31/07/2016 6:26 pm
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I'm in the 'g shocks are better in many ways and fancy watches are just jewellery' camp too, but a nice watch passed on by your father has more going on, and I would love such a thing deeply (despite the relationship with my father being far from good!). Nice sentiment. Black.


 
Posted : 31/07/2016 6:42 pm
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Grey face is like buying a fashionable suit. In 5 years it'll be quirky but no one will actually want to own it & it'll feel like your 40th was way back in the dim & distant past. Whereas the black will look like it & you are forever young & classic

You voice my concerns over the grey very well. The black is more "real"
I'm in the 'g shocks are better in many ways and fancy watches are just jewellery' camp too, but a nice watch passed on by your father has more going on, and I would love such a thing deeply (despite the relationship with my father being far from good!). Nice sentiment. Black.

Cheers Del.
As for km79, I am quite aware that it's overpriced jewellery (hence the thread title), and whether I have more money than sense matters little as it's my money that I have worked for and I'll do what the hell I want with it. Have you seen the price of mountain bikes these days? It could easily be argued that any bike over £2k is just a skill compensating ego chariot.


 
Posted : 31/07/2016 7:08 pm
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The Mark XVII is more in keeping with "more real" as the early pilots watches were not chrono's, the other option is the Portugueser which is a lovely looking timepiece if you want the chrono function.

As for the Veblen goods hand wringing. So what? The world is filled with pointless baubles, man has been been embellishing tools and creating useless objects of worship since the Stone Age, any argument is moot unless you live like a monk and your book of prayer is not richly illuminated in gold but a plain text document printed and spiral bound.


 
Posted : 31/07/2016 7:58 pm
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It's not over priced jewelery at all, the work and craftsmanship that goes in to these can be incredible. For example the El Primero movement takes 9 months to build by dozens of highly skilled craftsmen out of dozens of different materials.

Yes the IWC use ETA èbauches, but they are heavily modified in house by one of the leading, forward thinking watch manufacturers in Switzerland.


 
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