Hell yes.

Pastry on top of a casserole IS A PIE.

Some people put milk in tea first. They will be first against the wall...

Apparently, yes.

Pastry on top of a casserole IS A PIE.

When England goes full shit and Scotland washes its hands of it...

...you'll be allowed in.

clearly yes

It's interesting though:

“Identification of any one of the signs presented here, in isolation, may not be indicative of vulnerability or radicalisation. However, in combination or in circumstances where they do not ‘fit’, they may indicate an individual at risk. In such cases, consider whether the individual is vulnerable to extremism and should be referred to the UK government’s Prevent programme.”

XR encompasses everything from mild mannered MTB'ers to people who are commited to more extreme actions.  If you are looking for terrorist threats then it is probably the wrong place to look.  If you are using it as one of a number of indicators that someone may be vulnerable to being radicalised then maybe

That's hilarious.

I'm extreme hard left apparently. But then so is everyone else to the left of Margaret Thatcher these days.

Yeah I don’t follow click bait headlines.

Only on e-bikes.

Soooo....I'm too old to be a terrorist? Well thank you very much 🙁

If you are using it as one of a number of indicators that someone may be vulnerable to being radicalised then maybe

Yeah that’s how it works it’s not just based on being a member of XR but it’s group that may attract vulnerable people. Extremist groups know how to find these people so it’s not improbably that they’d target XR to find someone.

Hell yes.

Pastry on top of a casserole IS A PIE.

Testify!

Oh good grief, not another fatbike thread.

Ever gone back to savoury?

HERETIC!

No sides = No pie.

You bunch of extremists.

XR... A group that are open about what they do, have appeared in several TV documentaries and whose leader is a mild mannered farmer.....

I think a few of us holds extremist views.

I believe we should do more to protect those at the bottom of society, tax those at the top of the pile accordingly, have better provision for cycling and assassinate the PM, Farage and several other "leading" politicians.... Hey ho.

(jest!)

I believe anyone wearing sportswear whilst not actively participating in, on their way to or from doing the sport, should be ‘taken care of’

Is that extreme?

No sides = No pie.

Shepherds would like a word.

I think the extremists are those who don't follow science and educated thought with greed and avarice removed. We can't continue with the current percentage of population so engaged with consumer culture.

More extreme than this, I believe many of the issues facing mankind are most feasibly managed by a massive reduction in human population.

Tempering this I'm not perfect myself regarding environmental footprint, and I regard myself as being more worthy of removal from the planet for the benefit of the environment than certainly most third or second world folk. I'm not actually volunteering mind you. I'm doing lots by not breeding.

It's a disgrace to call Extinction Rebellion extremists, except in the very particular sense on their topic they are the most motivated to agitate.

Governments/society need to evolve democracy/consumerism/capitalism quickly or society will have very rough storms to weather.

No sides = No pie.

Shepherds would like a word.

They can have one after they learn what a pie is 😀 same as the fishermen and those who dwell in cottages.

Pastry on top of a casserole IS A PIE.

Four week ban.

It’s a disgrace to call Extinction Rebellion extremists

Didn't they just burn down Australia?

Shepherds would like a word

So would the cottagers

Wow. I genuinely find that pretty terrifying.

I see there’s lots haven’t read the actual story.

In what respect?

Like when members of the rspb were banned from the tube

I see there’s lots haven’t read the actual story.

Always the case.

In what respect?

In the respect they think XR is now classed an extremist group.

sigh.....

there's too many fun sponges on here now.

The story is that XR were listed by counter terrorism police in the south east as an extremist ideology organisation in a guide given to various organisations including schools. Under new laws anyone holding these views should be reported to the CT police.

Now the guidance has been reviewed, the guide withdrawn, and CTPSE say that XR are not an extremist org, although as pointed out activists from extremist views may seek to recruit from XR.

Clear enough?

But but the headline.....

....Is factually correct if somewhat sensationalised, they did list them in a guide that was widely circulated and are now (as the byline says) scrambling to withdraw it.

It's how newspapers get you to read their articles.

Would you prefer the 'Some info in a police guide was wrong, being withdrawn' approach?

I read it..... (from Guardian article)

following further questions, counter-terrorism police confirmed it had been circulated to “statutory partners” and had now been recalled. They said they now accepted that the protest group was not extremist.

So they are now not considered to be a danger, but the fact they were considered to be so and only changed their minds once challenged says a lot.

Peanut butter and marmite is ace.

There. I said it.

Would you prefer the ‘Some info in a police guide was wrong, being withdrawn’ approach?

Police Remove XR from extremist list.

But as you say it’s how they get their views but most don’t get past the link.

For everyone calling down pastry on top of meat and gravy isn't a pie first world problems and I raise you this. In work we get the Jiffy van to deliver food to us I asked for the pie and was given stew, the plooky teenager on the van was asked where the pastry was and he said there was none. I said how can it be pie without pastry and that it was stew he looked at me as if I was stupid and replied that the chef said it was pie. At this point I gave up and asked for a sausage roll (they struggle to mess that up). Moral of the story settle for the pastry on the stew.

So they are now not considered to be a danger, but the fact they were considered to be so and only changed their minds once challenged says a lot.

I’m with alpin on this, although it doesn’t surprise me in the least.

Ps I don’t see what’s misleading about the headline.

Cream first.

It was a mistake by the police to publish a document saying that xr was extremist

They are probably correct that it attracts people that are vulnerable

the reaction to climate catastrophy should never be to say that people that point this out are wrong. To equate that with an inability to correctly identify the proper place of pastry in a pie... 5 years ago I would have laughed but now I am to scared of how little time we have left to laugh or ride our bikes.

As long as it has one on the bottom, top and sides, it’s a pie.

As long as it has one on the bottom, top and sides, it’s a pie

.....Or a pasty 🤔

Some people put milk in tea first.

It’s the correct way to do it, for at least a century. The milk goes in first, then the tea, to protect delicate porcelain tea services from shattering due to the hot tea.
However, it’s not a law, so prosecution is unlikely to be successful.
And in any case, it’s the way I do it, because I can then keep stirring the teabag around until I get the desired strength, it’s not possible to judge without milk in the mug.
So there.
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The milk should never be in contact with the teabag 🤦

it’s not possible to judge without milk in the mug

This is what years of tea making allows you to do.... Even my German GF doesn't have to rely on this amateurish method.

Besides, what if you over milk?

Waderider
I think the extremists are those who don’t follow science and educated thought with greed and avarice removed. We can’t continue with the current percentage of population so engaged with consumer culture.

More extreme than this, I believe many of the issues facing mankind are most feasibly managed by a massive reduction in human population.

Tempering this I’m not perfect myself regarding environmental footprint, and I regard myself as being more worthy of removal from the planet for the benefit of the environment than certainly most third or second world folk. I’m not actually volunteering mind you. I’m doing lots by not breeding.

It’s a disgrace to call Extinction Rebellion extremists, except in the very particular sense on their topic they are the most motivated to agitate.

Governments/society need to evolve democracy/consumerism/capitalism quickly or society will have very rough storms to weather.

Very much this. Well said sir.

Luckily the Police agree with this view

Cream first.

I bet you are on a watch list already.

Milk in tea at all. Savagery

keep stirring the teabag 🙄

Traditionally tea leaves went in a tea pot where the tea brewed. Milk in the cup first may well have saved the expensive china from shattering, but the point is the water needs to be boiling for the process to be successful. SO, putting milk into your sports direct mug before your catering pack teabag won’t allow the sweepings to infuse correctly. 😉

It says something about "number of indicators". That rules out BMW drivers then.

the rules on tea need to be defined for bag-in-mug, different to loose leaf via teapot

exceptions to the pie rule must be drafted (fish, shepherd, cottage etc.) and suitable punishments agreed for the creations,serving or promotion of meat&gravey with a standalone pastry 'lid'

26 inch wheels are the future... 🤣

it's all a bit rock music is corrupting our youth, but a little too big brother at the same time.

The idea of Welsh independence and an eventual "Celtic Union" is growing on me, and I am willing to talk about it over a pint.

The milk should never be in contact with the teabag

The what?

I see the single speeders are keeping quiet.

Maybe the police have already cleaned up their extremist cells... 🙂

Waderider

I think the extremists are those who don’t follow science

Apparently, science is no longer the arbiter of what is extremist or acceptable. It's all about "feels" these days.

I see the single speeders are keeping quiet.

Maybe the police have already cleaned up their extremist cells… 🙂

First they came for the ‘tandemists’ and everyone thought - ‘well that kinda makes sense’. Then they came for the singlespeeders, but there weren’t many of them. Then the recumbents and the ebikers. Soon it will be the roadies and then the MTBers will have no one to look out for them.

Then they came for the singlespeeders, but there weren’t many of them.

They just caught them on the steep inclines.

Some people put milk in the cup, then a tea bag and finally boiling water. I believe that this is un-civilised behaviour and these people will be placed in camps for re-education.

Besides, what if you over milk?

Just let the bag steep for a bit longer to achieve the desired strength. It’s not difficult, I’ve been doing it for fifty years.

but the point is the water needs to be boiling for the process to be successful. SO, putting milk into your sports direct mug before your catering pack teabag won’t allow the sweepings to infuse correctly.

The water is boiling, and I only use Yorkshire Tea, for consistency, supermarket own-brand teabags are rubbish, and I’ve just finished a pack of rather nice blended bags from a Cornish tea company, and just started a box of West Country blended bags from Miles Tea, in Porlock, both of which were part of a Christmas pressy from friends along with a pair of rather lovely mugs, but I don’t know the name of the pottery they came from.
Sports Direct mug? Eeeew. I use either a mug from Tate Modern, from the Mark Rothko exhibition, or mugs from gigs - Portishead, Elbow, Kate Rusby, my Singletrackworld bucket, or one with a large Batman logo I got from a comic shop several decades ago.
I like a bit of variety in my beverage containers, you see. 😉

Besides, what if you over milk?

It’s making a cup of tea not nuclear fusion.

Edit. Didn't read it all

Black loose tea with fresh mint and a bit of sugar.

protect delicate porcelain tea services

Undamaged porcelain can be quenched from red heat without damage as was demonstrated on the BBC ceramics programme. It is not delicate stuff, earthenware on the other hand. . .

FWIW,Bravo to waderider.
I imagine some poor sod at police headquarters has to “plan” for civil disruption risks.
Maybe categorising XR as extremist provided a greater budget?

I have some grand ideas:

WKD and Bacardi breezers should contain chemical castration/sterilisation.

1 in 2 cigarettes should contain some kind of comical firecracker or stink pellet. (Experience with this from putting arm hair in a tobacco pouch)

Vehicle tax should be abolished and Fuel Duty hiked up.

Piers Morgan should be exiled to San Francisco/Sydney/Brighton to live out his personal hell.

patrickross for President!

Then they came for the singlespeeders, but there weren’t many of them.

They just caught them on the steep inclines.

Hills are where SS come into their own, you have no option but to stand up and crank out the power (or walk).

An experiment:

Make 2 cups of tea - one milk first, one milk last.
Try them. They taste different, don't they?

Wait a while.

Heat the milk last tea in the microwave. It will now taste the same as the milk first cup did.

🙂

Then they came for the singlespeeders, but there weren’t many of them.

They just caught them on the steep inclines.

Hills are where SS come into their own, you have no option but to stand up and crank out the power (or walk).

Err.... that’s why they would get caught. I rode SS for years. Going up steep inclines is a right bastard. Especially prolonged ones. Much slower than on a geared bike, where you can still stand and crank. Just in a range of gears.

seems it's wasn't just a "local" plod "error" :/

might have to stop posting links to badger vids and gifs

‘We’ have voted in a tyrannical government

I’m now an extremist for caring about the planet and the animals living upon it

Our rights are being eroded from us and we don’t have any support

Thanks Tory and Brexit voters

Heat the milk last tea in the microwave.

You do know I can suspend your account, right?

@Stoner

I just noticed this!
"Pastry on top of a casserole IS A PIE."

Nonsense, it is just a stew with a lid:

pie [ pahy ]

noun
a baked food having a filling of fruit, meat, pudding, etc., prepared in a pastry-lined pan or dish and must have a base and sides, not just a stew with a circle of puff-pastry thrown on.

Stoner is notoriously piesexual on this subject, but he is wrong as I've explained more than once on STW before.

Can you pick it up in your hands and carry it to your mouth? If you cannot (for any reason other than “it’s a really big one”) then it is not, by any sensible definition, a pie. A pie is self-sustaining and stands alone, proud. It does not require third party support from some party-sized casserole dish.

We can make an exception to names of pies that aren’t defined by their ingredients. That is to say, a pork pie is a pie with pork in it. A Shepherd’s Pie does not contain shepherds, and similarly a Cottage Pie generally does not contain cottages.

Ie, “Shepherd’s Pie” is the full name of a dish that is not actually a pie, in the same way that an Eccles cake is not actually a cake. See also, beef wellington.

Fish pie.

Contains fish.

You're going on the list too.

Hey - it's your rules.

There's always an exception.

Or something.