Forum menu
Practical yes. Meaningful, no.
for many people the two things are entwined.
Why on earth would I buy shit?
You seem to be full of it, I didn't think it could all be your own.
Are you sure it's not just hay fever?
you seem pretty angry about all this Mr Woppit
you clearly use a different dictionary from me then
meaningful -1.Having meaning, function, or purpose.
It is clear our position - where we are- does have a function and a purpose and therefore meaning. Without this we would all be dead /never have lived ..that is pretty meaningful to me if not too you.
I agree the spirirual bit is meaningless to you [ and to me] but the geographical location of planets is MEANINGFUL if you want to stay alive.
Oh dear... it now appears that some of the STW collective ARE getting a bit emotional before the solstice.. 🙄
I agree the spirirual bit is meaningless to you [ and to me]
So we agree, then. Steady, Jam29er is at the door and I think he/she's a bit upset about something. Perhaps he/she needs to spend some time in a field being "spiritual"... 🙄
yossarian - Member
you seem pretty angry about all this Mr Woppit
No, no. Not at all. Just practising my disdainful lip maneuvers. 😆
Oh dear... it now appears that some of the STW collective ARE getting a bit emotional before the solstice.
Yes but it doesn't [b]mean[/b] anything
On what planet was the past much more free than today?
hmm... maybe I'm being romantic or you're being obtuse.. neither of us actually lived in historical times so lets not split hairs hey gumbo?
Certain (christian) rules did not exist ruling whether or not I could live this way or that way... and anyone bombastically imposing on my way of life would have been justly and immediately met with severe and definite righteous indignation and all would have agreed that I did what was right and good..
and you can.. if you so desire.. go on to tell me about this violent opressor and that one.. but I am talking about a gathering of folk to celebrate midsummer and to drink and mate and sing and tell tall tales and laugh at the pompous vicar etc etc etc etc
This is my romantic view of the stones history and I argue that it's as valid as the next mans.
I went there with a very open mind as I have a deep interest in ancient Britain, divining, etc and have visited many ancient sites around the world. I found the majority of those present to have the self-belief that, due to drink / drugs / dreads / banging a drum for hours / German para boots / blowing a frikkin rams horn over and over / repeat festival attendance (better if illegal and free of course) / poor personal hygine, they had a deep insight into Mother Earth and all things worthy and ancient.
ha ha ha
wally! (should that be 'where's wally'?)
if you're interested in history etc why go there when a hippyfest is occurring? do you believe that the people in ancient times were generally cleaner and better mannered and were less likely to be getting sloshed and grooving to rhythmic chanting and drumming?
and I'm quite certain that you didn't manage to interview the 'majority' of people there as you claim.
Perhaps he/she needs to spend some time in a field being "spiritual"...
I really don't understand the attitudes on this forum sometimes. So what if someone wants to stand in a field being spiritual? Is it hurting you? Why the need for the sarcastic eye-rolling?
JAM29er - Member
Yes but it doesn't mean anything
My dear JAM, of course it does. It means Junkyard and I agree, and I'm disdainful... 8)
I really don't understand the attitudes on this forum sometimes. So what if someone wants to stand in a field being spiritual? Is it hurting you? Why the need for the sarcastic eye-rolling?
yep, I don't get this either. The funny thing is that that kind of attitude is TOTALLY absent from the folks that congregrate at stones all over the UK on midsummer...
It means Junkyard and I agree
Agree you're a numpty?
My dear Woppit, I concur.
JAM29er - MemberIt means Junkyard and I agree
Agree you're a numpty?
No, we agree that "spiritual" doesn't mean anything...
The funny thing is that that kind of attitude is TOTALLY absent from the folks that congregrate at stones all over the UK on midsummer...
Ooh, I bet if you dug deep enough you'd find some. Take JAM29er, for instance. 😯
I'm lovely, my mum told me so. She said she didn't like you though, thought you were a numpty.
*inappropriate smiley*
I'm a sod... a smelly one
JAM29er - Member
I'm lovely, my mum told me so. She said she didn't like you though, thought you were a numpty
Very cosmic.
No, don't think she read it in her stars. It is written on the toilet wall though.
Yes, Mrs North's birthday is on the Solstice, and I'm usually fretting that the gift I have got her is nice enough.
😀
Ooh, I bet if you dug deep enough you'd find some. Take JAM29er, for instance
nah, he's just risen to your fly Mr W
he don't seem as cross as you are about how other people celebrate their existence. 😉
Yes, Mrs North's birthday is on the Solstice
Just a quick question... is Mrs North a bit... well.. different? Weird might be a better word..
I have known 3 solstice birthday folk and they have all been a bit.. erm.. unusual.
I suspect that maybe if all people born on the solstice are special then there might be something significant about it after all.. which will upset Woppit. But only a tiny bit... and he'll try not to let it show.
EDIT: FOUR solstice birthday folk!
I think that the people going to Stonehenge for Midsummer to get drunk and drugged up are turning away those who genuinely want to celebrate in a sacred place.
They're probably the ones "ruining Christmas" too.
The po-faced neo-druids are just making up nonsense based on 18th century myths and Asterix books. I don't suspect the first solstice at Stonehenge (Where the demons dwell / Where the banshees live and they do live well) was that sober either. I mean, after dragging those bloody things up from Wales you could do with a mead.
But only a tiny bit... and he'll try not to let it show.
i sense a disdainful lip curl coming on 😀
yossarian - MemberOoh, I bet if you dug deep enough you'd find some. Take JAM29er, for instance
nah, he's just risen to your fly Mr W
Yes, almost too easy.
So we agree, then
Only if you want to grasp at the bit where I mention spirituality and ignore the bit where you were wrong about meaningful. Unless of course you are now arguing that spirituality means the same as meaningful
Yes, almost too easy.
well done, you can save this thread to your favourites now
*rolls eyes at Woppit*
My Birthday is the 21st.
Always a bit sad because I'm a year older.
Hoping to kick it off with a bike ride this year, watch the sunrise but only if its clear.
Always fancied riding from Sunset till Sun-Up, but somewhere with a nice view of the sunrise.
yunki - Member
and I'm quite certain that you didn't manage to interview the 'majority' of people there as you claim.
I claimed nothing of the sort. I reported what I experienced. I went there at Solstice because, firstly, I happened to be in the area and secondly, I wanted to see what the people who made the effort to be there on a certain date/time were making of the place.
Errr, I think you did.
blah blah I found the majority of those present blah blah
Junkyard - MemberSo we agree, then
Only if you want to grasp at the bit where I mention spirituality
Well, of course. That was the bit we agreed on...
I claimed nothing of the sort.
err... you absolutely unequivocally did claim such!
I found the majority of those present to have the self-belief that, due to drink / drugs / dreads / banging a drum for hours / German para boots / blowing a frikkin rams horn over and over / repeat festival attendance (better if illegal and free of course) / poor personal hygine, they had a deep insight into Mother Earth and all things worthy and ancient.They didn't.
how did you deduce what the majority of tens of thousands of people BELIEVED without asking them?
And who are you to decide whether a person has insight into mother earth and all things worthy and ancient?
baffling claims
you really are obtuse Whoppit thank f@ck I only have to interact with you on a forum I recall now why I do it so rarely
Yes I know. Irritating, isn't it?
😆
FWIW the solstice isn't always on the same day.
How much would the apparent position of the sun at sunrise (at it's northern apogee) have shifted in relation to the "heel stone", since the henge was built, I wonder?
7
7 what?
precisely
Just a quick question... is Mrs North a bit... well.. different? Weird might be a better word..
Not too weird, but definitely not normal. 😀
Not too weird, but definitely not normal
hah! 100% of 5 solstice (or thereabouts) babies are a druid short of a ritual!!
the research thus far is looking unfavourable for Mr Woppit...
Bit of a small sample... not to mention, imprecise.
What are the parameters of "normal" that we are measuring against, BTW?
hmmm... I was going to write 'the majority of solstice (or thereabouts) babies'
You've researched ALL solstice babies? 😯