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😀 it's just a cautionary note KB. As I said in another thread I don't think that FT graph really tells us that much about what the results would look like under PR, because people would likely vote differently under PR.
Quite a lot would change if we adopted some sort of PR, not least the likely break up of the larger parties into smaller, more focussed, parties.
I see this as a good thing, anyway.
Rachel (trying to think of something else, anything else, until 5pm...)
Breaking up the large parties may not be a bad thing but PR tends to bring forward more marginal views as the FT chart shows with UKIP.
What I would prefer is the public placing a much higher priority on environmental concerns with a safety net in place to keep marginal views in check.
Well done for standing!
Iain
...because bland centre politics has done us so well?but PR tends to bring forward more marginal views
Hasn't done me any harm to be honest Rachel. Best wishes, 1hr 40 to go.
I would prefer PR. You only have to look at Scotland to see what's wrong with FPTP. Less than 50% of the votes yet 95% of the seats.
but PR tends to bring forward more marginal views
...because bland centre politics has done us so well?
Perhaps not but, how to put this delicately. I wouldn't want certain rather far right of centre parties to become any more marginal than they are and I'm rather a fan of anything that makes their voice have less gravity. In the case of [i]some[/i] marginal parties I think it would work well but I wouldn't want a blanket increase in [i]all[/i] marginal views.
Good luck by the way.
Iain
In the case of some marginal parties I think it would work well but I wouldn't want a blanket increase in all marginal views.
The only way to tackle extremist views is to challenge them head on. Trying to exclude or marginalise them just feeds them.
Any result yet Rachael ? my brother came a valiant 4th.
No result yet but generally in the area the Cons are taking lots of seats. Well, nearly all actually.
:-/
Rachel
One good bit of news. Richard Bird, he once of cycle shop Fat Birds Don't Fly, has just been elected to council as an independent. 🙂
Unfortunately, pretty much the rest of the council has swung to Conservative. Looks like I'll have to put the duck house order on hold until next time!!
Rachel
Oh well better luck for you and us all next time.
"Progress without change", the Norfolk motto although I always thought the motto was "What?".
Good for Mr Bird. I like his shop very much.
Looks like I'll have to put the duck house order on hold until next time!!
Sorry to hear that. I had 3 of my ducks on standby for a new home. Donald, Jemima and Daphne will be so dissapointed 😆
Well done for standing. Better luck next time.
GrahamS - Member
But by the same token UKIP didn't have candidates standing in a lot of constituencies either, so their support may actually be higher too!
They stood in 624 constituencies in the GE.
My sister stood on the local City council election and she had to wait till gone 6pm today with lots recounts thru the day first of all on the general election and then on multiple wards that she has been elected.
couple more quick questions if you dont mind from a political dimwit....
do you stand for local council with hopes of going further? once elected to local council, go for 'promotion' to a 'ward'(?), and the long term plan is to be a local MP?
putting it in some sort of context, is it like playing for local sunday league footy side, hoping to be good enough for non-league, and if you turn out to be a decent player then youll end up pro?
or do you stand just cos you want to improve your local area and thats it?
how much money does it cost to stand for council, and what is payment likely to be? peanuts? voluntary? thousands in expenses?
genuine interest.
I was standing for the Borough Council in a Ward. I'm not really interested in "promotion" as you put it to parliamentary elections.
As a Borough Councillor, you would get expenses of about £5k a year.
the only costs are in printing leaflets and shoe leather.
Rachel