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Do you dismiss anything that is not directly from your bum-chum TiRed?

I am highly likely to dismiss anything that uses that kind of language though. It makes you look like you are lashing out emotionally rather than having a rational discussion.


 
Posted : 26/01/2022 11:43 am
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You are promoting yourself as an ignorant **** that’s for sure.

Gonna need some evidence for that too.

Thats not bad, 8 people who had adverse reaction to the vaccine.

Heh. Did you read that site's disclaimer distancing themselves from any claims and recommending that people seek actual medical advice, or did you just head straight for their gift shop?


 
Posted : 26/01/2022 11:43 am
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Oh look. That'll be a ban then. Tara, it's been fun. Until next time!


 
Posted : 26/01/2022 11:44 am
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Bye Bye Peter

Clearly the actions of a loser. Too used to having the other weirdos agree with him and when he meets a real challenge has a big tantrum


 
Posted : 26/01/2022 11:44 am
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Well, that was the same pattern again, wasn't it... post the same old stuff, then be abusive about long standing members, then post a photo that has to be pulled.


 
Posted : 26/01/2022 11:46 am
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And the troll is unmasked for what it is - hurrah!!! I’m surprised it took so long tbh.


 
Posted : 26/01/2022 11:46 am
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My eyes. I think I could see lorries with French number plates.


 
Posted : 26/01/2022 11:48 am
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Can we close this thread now then? Keep it to the existing thread?


 
Posted : 26/01/2022 11:48 am
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I wonder if that was his friend.


 
Posted : 26/01/2022 11:48 am
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What was in the photo? Descriptions only please.


 
Posted : 26/01/2022 11:51 am
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Heh. Did you read that site’s disclaimer distancing themselves from any claims and recommending that people seek actual medical advice, or did you just head straight for their gift shop?

I was being sarcastic cougar.

What was in the photo? Descriptions only please.

Boris Johnson.


 
Posted : 26/01/2022 11:53 am
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Maybe Peteykins had a point? He hatez teh gayz bcuz they’re pro-vaccine nEeDLE-fAsCiSTs?

My eyes. I think I could see lorries with French number plates.

🤣🙌🏼

They don’t call it Le Havre for nothing. (Well done mods, it was looking like a close shave…)


 
Posted : 26/01/2022 11:53 am
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What was in the photo? Descriptions only please.

I think it was a self-portrait.


 
Posted : 26/01/2022 11:54 am
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What was in the photo? Descriptions only please.

A lady going for her vaccination and misunderstanding where a little prick would need to be stuck.


 
Posted : 26/01/2022 11:54 am
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Descriptions only please.

Errr! It was a view a gynaecologist mighty see.


 
Posted : 26/01/2022 11:54 am
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I was being sarcastic cougar.

I know, I was commenting about the site, not you.


 
Posted : 26/01/2022 11:54 am
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If we kept the thread on topic it would be great - I get lost in the main thread.


 
Posted : 26/01/2022 11:59 am
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Ooops! Sorry guys not sure why that didn’t delete.


 
Posted : 26/01/2022 11:59 am
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Yep pic still there….. 🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮


 
Posted : 26/01/2022 12:01 pm
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If we kept the thread on topic it would be great – I get lost in the main thread.

Yes, although I dubious of the original OPs intentions it has turned into a thread to discuss the vaccine itself and help disable some misinformation.


 
Posted : 26/01/2022 12:01 pm
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more able IT'ers than me probably know but is it the same person with multiple logins, and if so isn't it time their original persona is named.

What a knob.


 
Posted : 26/01/2022 12:20 pm
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He hatez teh gayz bcuz they’re pro-vaccine nEeDLE-fAsCiSTs?

Is it perhaps intended to work the other way? "Are you a family man that feels queasy (and strangely aroused) around LGBT folk? Then you should also hate the vaccine!"

/s in case it wasn't obvious enough


 
Posted : 26/01/2022 12:21 pm
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because that decision to drunkenly drive is a decision to unvaccinatedly leave the house. And that’s a much more regular occurrence.

I think you can make the distinction in that some people do have genuine concerns around vaccination. I don’t think you could say the same about getting a taxi at end of the night

I get the sentiment… but I’m not wholly convinced equating people who don’t want to get the vaccine with pedos is entirely fair

My wrath is reserved for the xxxxs who spread the miss-information and whose nonsense actually costs lives. I have a fair degree of sympathy for those that have been suckered into believing it


 
Posted : 26/01/2022 12:24 pm
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more able IT’ers than me probably know but is it the same person with multiple logins, and if so isn’t it time their original persona is named.

Difficult to spot folk using different IP addresses and/or email accounts.

Perhaps it's time for some sort of control on the Chat forum - no posting until a certain number of days/weeks after registration or until a number of posts on the Bike forum.


 
Posted : 26/01/2022 12:33 pm
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Anyway, didn't want to mention it whilst Peter was around but as I've said a few times on a number of threads...

My wife had an adverse reactions to the az vaccine - she has lupus an auto immune condition, which has been managed by various drugs for a number of years. She had the az vaccine in Jan last year and a year on is still being monitored for various related issues, I think she's on hospital visit number 6 now.

My wife and I, as laymen, as knew there was a high chance that the az vaccine would cause her issues with basic knowledge of how the az and phzier vaccines work. But no other vaccine was available at the time so she took it. Jan last year BJ was very proudly fronting the az as the way forward for all - no care of previous medical conditions etc etc. Just Oxford is great / British is best.

Her adverse reaction was entirely avoidable if consultation had been given with her consultants and medical advisors within the wider NHS. So in my view was a political rather medical fault. Her consultant has also told her he has had a vastly increased work load since az vaccine was given to a large number of his patients - who are now presenting a range of issues.

My wife is also an active member on a lupus forum, and has been for a number of years. Many of her forum friends have also had a large range of issues and complications that they directly attribute to the az vaccine.

My wife is still pro vaccination - she'll be on no 4 by the end of the month (1az and 3phzier or moderna mRNA based).

She's also been given a flu jab since diagnosis - but again one that is compatible with her condition (she has to check it's the correct one with the Dr each year).


 
Posted : 26/01/2022 12:34 pm
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Caution shown by other countries about learning lessons from the early AZ rollout was derided a lot here at the time (it's all in the other thread). Everything done in other countries was said to be "political", and the UK approach was said to be purely science led. As well as having a negative effect on the lives of a small minority of vaccinated people, it's the kind of thing that builds mistrust of our vaccination rollout in the UK, where take up is now lower than in many comparable countries.


 
Posted : 26/01/2022 12:40 pm
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I think there’s an adverse reactions thread. I suppose (like UK politics/pollution/Tories/Johnson/Brexit) there will always be problems keeping COVID-19/propaganda/antivaxx/anti-mask/side-effects threads/multiple threads on track,

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https://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/covid-vaccination-side-effects-what-were-yours/

My wrath is reserved for the xxxxs who spread the miss-information and whose nonsense actually costs lives. I have a fair degree of sympathy for those that have been suckered into believing it

Agreed, (and also not to say anyone should be bullied) but for point of reference at what point do they become one and the same?

Talking of bullying, the irony of those signs ‘let our kids smile’:

As far as fighting the war social services commufascists* it’s all in hand. Alpha Men assemble**:

https://youtu.be/9w7znks-h5A

*satire
**not satire


 
Posted : 26/01/2022 12:42 pm
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Difficult to spot folk using different IP addresses and/or email accounts.

Yeah it’s impossible. 😗


 
Posted : 26/01/2022 12:45 pm
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I kept out of this thread for the last day or two as any contribution I had would be tiresomely repetitive.  Well what fun I missed!

Couple of high quality takedowns !


 
Posted : 26/01/2022 12:54 pm
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So to dismiss everything out of hand is incorrect and not helpful.

It is helpful to me as I don't have to waste any time.
Covid is a big change for people and as we know people struggle with change. One way to deal with it is to focus on the majority that want to understand and spending your time on them rather than the 1% who will always be against it (change is bad) as that 1% become insignificant.


 
Posted : 26/01/2022 12:56 pm
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Perhaps it’s time for some sort of control on the Chat forum – no posting until a certain number of days/weeks after registration

There already is. There's a delay of several hours, though that's largely to stop spammers spamming when all the moderators are in bed.


 
Posted : 26/01/2022 1:02 pm
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erratum:

As far as fighting the war against social services commufascists*, it’s all in hand. Alpha Men assemble… **


 
Posted : 26/01/2022 1:11 pm
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Yeah it’s impossible.

There was a thing a bit back, with Steam(gaming) Valve anti cheat. And as far as i know it recorded things like the GPU id thingy.

Of course with valve you sign up to let them read your system for them gauging who has what gup/processor etc for game minimum requirements to see what the majority of their users are running.

Anyway, if you were caught cheating and to prevent cheaters just opening a new account it took its id from your GPU signature and its unlikely people would go to the extreme of changing a GPU in order to get a new account.

I think though for that you need the users permission, and i dont think thats possibly here. Shame, as it would mean they couldnt sign up unless they changed their computer.


 
Posted : 26/01/2022 1:21 pm
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That Alpha Men Assemble guff - is that some sort of Brass Eye style spoof?


 
Posted : 26/01/2022 1:46 pm
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Unfortunately not....

Gammon goons assemble


 
Posted : 26/01/2022 1:47 pm
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Do you dismiss anything that is not directly from your bum-chum TiRed?

Well modesty forbids, but we've never met in person.

If you would like to review the vaccine data, the EMA have published their assessment (EPAR) together with their approval and further assessment of safety signals here https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/medicines/human/EPAR/comirnaty . The CDC don't license medicines and vaccines, so you will be waiting for a while to see the data from them. By contrast, the FDA held two advisory committees and the materials have been published (including review data). The Children's Ad Com is here. You are welcome to search for the adult materials.


 
Posted : 26/01/2022 2:43 pm
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Thanks chum.


 
Posted : 26/01/2022 2:59 pm
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You are welcome to search for the adult materials.

I think he was searching for some different adult material in the end.....


 
Posted : 26/01/2022 3:11 pm
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That Alpha Men Assemble guff – is that some sort of Brass Eye style spoof?

You’d think they were but they are genuine in their beliefs. Some of their stuff is more comical than Brass Eye.


 
Posted : 26/01/2022 3:13 pm
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@Del nowhere close according to this
Graph from December


 
Posted : 26/01/2022 3:31 pm
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World beating surely? 🤣

I was working off the gov dashboard which shows 90% first dose for eligible population. Damn me and my rose tints!

Good comparison that ^ ta!


 
Posted : 26/01/2022 4:13 pm
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Depends on your definition of "eligible population".

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Posted : 26/01/2022 4:27 pm
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That data is actually pretty close if you take it as total coverage (rather than just over 12’s) and assume that 2 jabs is fully vaccinated..


 
Posted : 26/01/2022 5:27 pm
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Blimey, I missed some goings on.

You leave the thread for a couple of days and find out that Drac and TiRed are in a committed and loving relationship.

Covid gone all Tinder.


 
Posted : 26/01/2022 7:55 pm
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It was only a matter of time before our secret came out.


 
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