So slam on the brakes is the best option? What if, quite reasonably, one of the back cars has just at that moment decided to overtake after all? Hmm...
Drivers REALLY hate cyclists here...
See link. Angry Land Rover driver, reverses his lanny back up a hill AT cyclists
It depends on the circumstances - I get flashed and honked at (oo-er) fairly routinely driving to work. I slow down for a village which has a 30 limit.
Then I speed up again to 60 for the A-road that follows, as one does. For some reason this is perceived as holding up dickhead in the BMW who drove an inch from my bumper as he attempts to overtake the second we pass the 30 sign, even if there are 4 fully laden trucks from the quarry heading towards us, as if I was planning on doing 30 all the way to work or something ? Duh.
Or maybe they are just saying hello - who knows...
top end of the via Gelia
Was going to ask what you expected from Italian drivers. Disappointingly unexotic location, TBH.
I expect the other driver had just finished his mobile phone call so was speeding up again.
OP are you new here?
The problem is you've got this place all wrong.
You come on here with a story about someones poor and potentially dangerous driving expecting a bit of sympathy and support, you really should have known that instead you would get several people, none of whom were there, having a go at you instead.
So just to buck the trend.
Yes the guy accelerating as you overtake is a dick, yes its happened to me.
Yes its annoying and yes I'd have done the same.
Now where did I put my woodburner?
I've had this, straight well sighted road, single car in front doing 40, I go to overtake and off they go, booting it.
Its so utterly pointless and bloody dangerous. You commit to making a manoeuvre based on the current situation and conditions and you go to overtake they put their foot down. Why why why would you do that in any circumstances, unless you're a total arse?
So you either press on and pass them or hit the brakes and drop back in behind. I've done both in the past and only the OP knows whether it was really safe or not for him to continue with his manoeuvre. Given he's here posting I'd say he got away with it.
I've had similar to the OP.
Old fella driving an oldish Jag pulls out in front of me on a roundabout causing me to brake.
As we exit the roundabout long straight road - clear. I try to overtake he accelerates big puff of smoke out of the exhaust (I was driving a 1.6 focus so no chance of out accelerating). We're up to 80 and I can see a car in the distance so brake and get behind Jag.
He slows down to 40 on a 60 limit. I try and overtake again and he's back to 80.
Twunt.
there's another 6 points 😯We're up to 80
A pattern seems to be forming here, those who ignore legal speed restrictions and make little attempt to adapt their speed to road conditions (which may mean a speed lower than the limit) find that other drivers are going slower than themselves and get angry about it.
there's another 6 points
Calm down dear!
ACPO guidelines for a court summons in a 60mph limit would be 86mph otherwise it would be dealt with by an FPN which is 3 points and £100 fine.
Third option, brake with the intention of pulling into the now very large gap and if he brakes to try and stop you, brake very hard and drop behind all three - if you do the maths you'll find you have a better chance of survival by braking to a stop than persisting in an overtake with someone racing you. If something comes the other way the brake hard strategy has advantages:
This is making an assumption that no one was following the OP before he started the overtaking manoeuvre as well as assuming neither of the 2 cars in front prior had also decided to use a long straight to get past a slower driver.
I would suggest braking to a stop in moving traffic is more likely to get you rear ended than using a little extra acceleration to circumnavigate the bellend in front.
oh well, 'only' 3 points 😯
it's just breaking the law a little bit then I guess 🙂
honestly, all this 'make progress' nonsense - folk should just chill out, take a break for a bit if needed to let the numpties move along the road. The journey time will hardly be affected, you won't get wound up and you'll hopefully arrive in one piece !
Edukator, making a point articulately and regularly does not make it right.
You say here...
risky overtaking there's also:
Assuming the OP has sworn an oath to STW, it wasn't risky at all until the front car decided to make it so with an aggressive action. Your subsequent lecture is, therefore, somewhat redundant following your small, but significant omission of that point.
I am not going to get into an argument about it, nor will I return to this thread. I just thought it only fair to point that out.
honestly, all this 'make progress' nonsense - folk should just chill out, take a break for a bit if needed to let the numpties move along the road. The journey time will hardly be affected, you won't get wound up and you'll hopefully arrive in one piece !
You are right. We should all just go at the speed of the slowest vehicle on the road and just accept that some people have different priorities. If we want to travel along it at something approaching the legal limit well then tough the designated Road Captain at the head of the queue has decided on the speed everyone is travelling that day and will diligently be blocking any attempts to overtake.
I mean jumping a queue! How uncouth! That's something only Johnny Foreigner and the bloody colonials would do. Its just not cricket!
😆
Cheers Pook. Its not easy this internet lark!
Edukator - TrollA pattern seems to be forming here, those who ignore legal speed restrictions and make little attempt to adapt their speed to road conditions (which may mean a speed lower than the limit) find that other drivers are going slower than themselves and get angry about it.
Who's getting angry about people going slowly? I'm angry that someone suddenly and unpredictably decided to go fast!
FWIW
just get a faster car, they are safer, you'll have 'made progress' before the overtakee realises whats going on...
edit: 😉
Who's getting angry about people going slowly?
You, Dan, apparently it drives you "nuts" when other drivers brake to go round bends slower than you think they should. Yourself from the concurrently running thread:
except for far too many other drivers who absolutely must brake for every single corner regardless of their speed, the corners sharpness, the amount of gravel/ice/mud/water on the road or lack thereof etc etc.Drives me nuts.
"Drives me nuts" doesn't mean angry. I find it mildly irritating.
Occasionally, i might mutter something about them being a pillock but I'm not about to smash their head in with a wrench for going a bit slow.
Though do feel free to carry on leaping to conclusions.
If the car at the front was able to accelerate rapidly enough to keep pace with a car that had a good run up (as our man seems to have had) then it must have been truly awesome, maybe an Allegro or similar?
dickhead in the BMW who drove an inch from my bumper
Very, very lonely Hels and needs a friend to get close to. Today was your day.
Brrrm brrrm! Weeeeeaaaaooooowwwwww!!!! Vroom vroom vroom!! Yeeeehaaaaaahhhh!!!!!!!! Woagh Dude, yeeeeeaaaaahhh.
Another mronic driver thread
Don't be so hard on yourself. 😆
You come on here with a story about someones poor and potentially dangerous driving expecting a bit of sympathy and support, you really should have known that instead you would get several people, none of whom were there, having a go at you instead
^^ this
Op the road captains on here are the kind of people you overtook
what's a road captain ?
EDIT - found it, according to David Miller :
road captains in cycling are very different to captains in other sports where they’re figureheads who give inspirational speeches
sounds like being a road captain is something we should all aspire to then 🙂
I'd take it that a "road captain" is a self appointed upholder of the highway code and decider of the acceptable speed for a given section of road.
^^^ well we should all be captains of our own [s]ships[/s] cars so that sounds pretty reasonable that we decide how fast we want to drive, appropriate to the conditions, within the law.
A section of urban motorway that forms part of my drive home from work is a 50 limit, which would be easy to exceed, so I happily drive along it with the cruise set to 50 and smile at those wishing to 'make progress' , flashing their lights and fists, only to see them often be detained by blue flashing lights within 2 or 3 miles - almost a weekly occurrence 🙂
So the consensus is overtake if you want to and its safe then?
Phew, I'm glad that's been cleared up.
Pretty sure you can be done for dangerous driving if you speed up while being overtaken. Pretty sure people who say they never break the speed limit are liars.
cumberlanddan - MemberSo the consensus is overtake if you want to and its safe then?
As long as..
1) You dont jump the imaginary queue
2) You dont exceed the speed limit
3) You are making progress
4) None of the above
5) All of the above
Otherwise pudding WILL be withdrawn.
Wouldn't have happened in a Golf R estate, could overtake 5 cars nee botha in one of them...
Only if the "road captains" give permission! I enjoy making progress within the road conditions and limits, anybody dawdling in my way will be safely overtaken.
I was behind a line of cars the other day doing 25mph on an A road, there was a tractor up front and nobody had the gumption to overtake even though there were numerous opportunities. Peoples inability to make a decision and take responsibility, so they just sit behind a tractor and follow the car in front like sheep! Baaaastards.
I used to enjoy driving but it's just a procession nowadays. People think by doing 40mph in a 60mph is a nice safe and sensible speed.. Which when conditions are bad it is. But when the road is clear and dry it just selfish and infuriating for other motorists.
No pudding for the lot of them!
cumberlanddan - MemberSo the consensus is overtake if you want to and its safe then?
The concensus is that everyone slower than you is an incompetent and anyone faster than you is a psychopath.
But no, don't overtake when it's safe. Overtake when internet experts who weren't there and aren't interested in what the person who was there says except as something to have fun twisting, say it's safe.
I was behind a line of cars the other day doing 25mph on an A road, there was a tractor up front and nobody had the gumption to overtake even though there were numerous opportunities. Peoples inability to make a decision and take responsibility, so they just sit behind a tractor and follow the car in front like sheep! Baaaastards.
I think I would be hyper twitchy if the tractor was approaching any field gates though 🙂
Even turning left into a field they turn quite wide, and turning right - are you sure their indicators are 100% functional..? 🙂
Cumberlanddan is that the stretch before pikehall? Heading towards Newhaven? It wasn't a black soda was it?
Yeah that's a fair point, however there was a fair gap for a safe overtake and nobody made an effort to pass. Not the first time I have seen this either.
Going the other way wrightyson and it was some sort of beige skoda saloon I think.
kcal - I think I would be hyper twitchy if the tractor was approaching any field gates though. Even turning left into a field they turn quite wide, and turning right - are you sure their indicators are 100% functional..?
*flashes back to lying on the road staring at the sky, barely able to breathe thinking I was paralyzed*
6 months after getting my first 125 I made the rookie mistake of overtaking a tractor on a clear day, no other traffic, wide road. The tractor turned right into a concealed field entrance with no hesitation or attempt to indicate or signal in any way. I tried to brake and avoid him, but I hit his trailer - bruised kidney and fractured vertebrae and mangled bike ensued. The impact to my kidney saved my spine from being totally smashed. Lesson learned - tread cautiously when overtaking tractors! 🙂
Honestly, I have never found people doing 40 in a 60 to be a problem. It's an easy overtake as soon as there's a straight. The buggers doing 60-65, on the other hand...
