Your views are your views.
Seems pointless, as my first post said - nothing will change peoples views of the monarchy or the even when you point out that the thread title was an invitation rather than a request people just get more angry and fixated
I'd take a dump on that invitation and send it back. Sickening.
Its really nothing to be proud of, or boast about, being invited by a flawed, warped, sick, scrounging family who befriend and strive to protect the worst of society and then brush it off like a child would do claiming that they didn't know when exposed. Their own actions alone are enough to warrant disgust never mind those they choose to get matey with and protect.
Homeless people in every town/city centre, kids starving, millions in poverty and they laud this event as if its something to be proud of? Its one of the most embarrassing and shameful things we'll ever witness.
Those going, watching and in support of this sham are the most two faced, ignorant people this country has to offer. Brainwashed and deluded doesn't even come close.
Got out of bed on the wrong side this morning?
Is there a buffet?
No, limited toilet access too ..
@jhinwxm thanks for your continued contribution to the forum, and to society. I'll be having a nice day. I hope u do too.
Got out of bed on the wrong side this morning?
This morning?
"I’d take a dump on that invitation and send it back. Sickening...Those going, watching and in support of this sham are the most two faced, ignorant people this country has to offer."
I'll put you down as a 'maybe', then?
The guy doesn't know what positivity is looking through previous replies to the forum - offers nothing but negativity 🤷♂️
Those going, watching and in support of this sham are the most two faced, ignorant people this country has to offer. Brainwashed and deluded doesn’t even come close.
You certainly come across as open minded on the issue. Not ignorant or brainwashed at all.
Can we just clarify if you've been nominated for any public recognition for services to the community?
Personally, I don't think there should be a monarchy, but I accept that other people may have alternative views and that's fine.
Can we just clarify if you’ve been nominated for any public recognition
for services to the community?
This at least seems plausible.
😁
Personally, I don’t think there should be a monarchy, but I accept that other people may have alternative views and that’s fine.
Are you new to this place/the internet? 🤣
I disagree with a variety of views/folks on here, but I appreciate evidence based argument for making me think more.
Interesting posting history 🤔 I used to work with someone who was permanently angry, negative about every possible subject and usually ranting about something or other. He sucked the energy out of every room he entered and people went out of their way to avoid him. It all seemed very draining for him. Sad.
@monkeyboyjc appreciate your input and for sticking your head above the parapet.
Rees Mogg on tv last night arguing that the countries who were subject to Britain's imperialism actually were better off for it.
I was getting at whether your invite had left you feeling somewhat comprimised and co-opted.
You've no need to answer that, I was just curious.
Despite being a republican, I'm going to a 'Coronation Party' round at friends. I'm justifying this by saying that I'm an atheist, but I still take opportunities around Xmas and Easter to socialise.
My wife has already said I will have to behave. All I have said to that is that I won't be walking around whistling La Marseillaise, but should someone ask a direct question I won't lie to them either. If someone decides they no longer want to be friends over something like this, then I guess they weren't that good a friend to start with. 🤷♂️
Rees Mogg on tv last night arguing that the countries who were subject to Britain’s imperialism actually were better off for it.
Weird that so few of them wanted to continue with it, then...
Despite being a republican, I’m going to a ‘Coronation Party’ round at friends. I’m justifying this by saying that I’m an atheist, but I still take opportunities around Xmas and Easter to socialise.
Similar feelings. We live in a very rural farming hamlet which has a strong community spirit but is very conservative. They are doing a party in the village hall for the coronation and lots of our neighbours will be there. I know for a fact that many of the newer residents, like me have republican views but will still go along because it will mostly be eating, drinking and chatting with friends and neighbours. Exactly like the harvest supper, summer ceilidh, 6 nations rugby etc. they also do, but with a lot more bunting and plastic flags!
Just another opportunity to forge or renew connections in a scattered community where people do look out for each other and help out if needed. And to neck lots of cider! Biting your tongue over some of the jingoism is a small price to pay to help foster community spirit IMO, although tbh - I doubt there will be much chat about the event and more about how lambing went etc. As an atheist I also go the Christmas carol concert there, hypocritical? Perhaps, but it evokes pleasant memories of childhood Christmases and puts me in a good mood even though I no longer believe.
Me and Mrs Bloke aren't going this time, I'm meeting my son for a ride and she doesn't feel like socialising after a very busy time at work recently. We did go to a jubilee party there though - I copped absolute dog's abuse for admitting that on here. I was 'stupid', a 'flag shagger' etc. That's why @monkeyboyjc has my admiration for sharing his experience and potentially opening himself up to similar from the usual suspects. Hopefully not though....
Similar feelings. We live in a very rural farming hamlet which has a strong community spirit but is very conservative. They are doing a party in the village hall for the coronation and lots of our neighbours will be there. I know for a fact that many of the newer residents, like me have republican views but will still go along because it will mostly be eating, drinking and chatting with friends and neighbours. Exactly like the harvest supper, summer ceilidh, 6 nations rugby etc they also do, but with a lot more bunting and plastic flags!
Just another opportunity to forge or renew connections in a scattered community where people do look out for each other and help out if needed. And to neck lots of cider! Biting your tongue over some of the jingoism is a small price to pay to help foster community spirit IMO, although tbh – I doubt there will be much chat about the event and more about how lambing went etc. As an atheist I also go the Christmas carol concert there, hypocritical? Perhaps, but it evokes pleasant memories of childhood Christmases and puts me in a good mood even though I no longer believe.
Me and Mrs Bloke aren’t going this time, I’m meeting my son for a ride and she doesn’t feel like socialising after a very busy time at work recently. We did go to a jubilee party there though – I copped absolute dog’s abuse for admitting that on here. I was ‘stupid’, a ‘flag shagger’ etc. That’s why @monkeyboyjc has my admiration for sharing his experience and potentially opening himself up to similar from the usual suspects.
Well said.
was getting at whether your invite had left you feeling somewhat comprimised and co-opted
Not really, initially when I was offered the bem I was tempted to decline as it came from Boris being pm at the time, but glad I didn't as he didn't last long after. I'm generally quite a reserved person and the attention I got from the locals i really don't like. Coronation invite has been the same.
However I don't see the invite as directly for me, rather a representative of a wider community and I'm happy to do that on behalf of those in the area that the coronation matters too.
I went to church up to age 16, but also atheist, but I still attend church ceremony's and take part. Regards the monarchy, I feel that there are worse institutions that we all happy throw money at daily (Starbucks, McDonald's, Disney etc), I feel the monarchy is one of the defining things that makes us British (particularly at an international level), like it or not.
Rees Mogg on tv last night arguing that the countries who were subject to Britain’s imperialism actually were better off for it.
Was he? I missed that. The reality:
"From the 1st century AD to the start of British colonisation in India in the 17th century, India's GDP was between about 25 and 35% of the world's total GDP, which dropped to 2% by Independence of India in 1947."
And furthermore India has not experienced a single major famine since it gained independence in 1947, despite reoccurring famines which killed millions under the British Raj.
The reason India was considered the jewel in the crown of the British Empire was because India brought so much wealth to Britian, but India was systematically plundered and de-industrialised by Britian.
Starkey has form.
Indeed, the temptation to have said "But Sunak's from Southampton you vile old racist" must have been almost overwhelming.
I used to rail about all the injustices in life, unaccounted and unearned privilege, prejudice, graft, corruption and the like but all it did was make me ill.
I'm in agreement with blokeuptheroad, we live in a country where all those things are generally accepted or actively supported. For the sake of a peaceful life its easier to just pretend you go along with it.
I’ll be having a nice day. I hope u do too.
You will, it is going to be absolutely magnificent, the music alone will be something you will never forget - we have a fine choral tradition in this country and whilst I guess it is an exaggeration to say it will be its apogee - it is going to be right up there - experiencing it in the flesh will be amazing.
Similar feelings. We live in a very rural farming hamlet which has a strong community spirit but is very conservative. They are doing a party in the village hall for the coronation and lots of our neighbours will be there.
We've the same in our village, and every village in the area, most people that can attend will be - but that the point of them, it's to bring communitys together, much like why I've been invited.
Despite being a republican, I’m going to a ‘Coronation Party’ round at friends. I’m justifying this by saying that I’m an atheist, but I still take opportunities around Xmas and Easter to socialise.
It's a party with friends. Presumably there will be beer and cake. Who are you justifying it to, yourself?
Just got home from work and my wife has put up a load of union flags at the bottom of our drive 🤣
I'm struggling to be bothered though as she also bought a Coronation Colin the Caterpillar cake! I'll take my wins where I can and I'll enjoy my extra day off next week.
I'll br riding my bike or walking the dog during the actual coronation tomorrow but fair play to those who want to celebrate. I'll just be doing something else.
Indeed, the temptation to have said “But Sunak’s from Southampton you vile old racist” must have been almost overwhelming.
Not for the guests on that particular panel. They moved swiftly on to the likelihood of Prince William getting mobbed by 'the gays' during his visit to Soho. What fun!
Who are you justifying it to, yourself?
Basically yes.
They moved swiftly on to the likelihood of Prince William getting mobbed by ‘the gays’ during his visit to Soho.
Well, presumably the pageant won't be within range of an overloaded dinghy full of brown people, so I guess it is going to be turn of 'the gays'.
If Charlie goes arse over tit wearing a showy dressing gown or Archbishop Thingy drops the ceremonial mug of oil, presumably that will be the fault of 'wokes' or similar?
Pfffft.
We did go to a jubilee party there though – I copped absolute dog’s abuse for admitting that on here. I was ‘stupid’, a ‘flag shagger’ etc
That's because when the chips on your shoulders get too big you become blinkered. The idea of pragmatic compromise is so alien to some folk on here.
I’ll attend anything for any reason if there is a buffet.
The idea of pragmatic compromise is so alien to some folk on here.
Out of curiosity where is the compromise on the royalists side in this scenario?
Everyone got absolutely bladdered at our village jubilee street party last year, the parish council moved the venue of the coronation party away from the pub to the village hall this year..... Being the only sober one tiding up wasn't fun.
We did go to a jubilee party there though – I copped absolute dog’s abuse for admitting that on here. I was ‘stupid’, a ‘flag shagger’ etc
The idea of pragmatic compromise is so alien to some folk on here.
Out of curiosity where is the compromise on the royalists side in this scenario?
Not dishing out personal abuse at those with different opinions?
Although attending an openair public party, or wanting to witness a historical constitutional event, does necessarily define that someone is a "royalist". Just that they might like parties and historical events.
Not dishing out personal abuse at those with different opinions?
So their compromise is get what they want and then be generous enough not to insult people.
This compromise seems less pragmatic than one sided.
What do you mean "get what they want"?
The ability to mention on here that they are going to a party?
Just got home from work and my wife has put up a load of union flags at the bottom of our drive
Blimey!
In an ironic way?
’d take a dump on that invitation and send it back. Sickening.
Its really nothing to be proud of, or boast about, being invited by a flawed, warped, sick, scrounging family who befriend and strive to protect the worst of society and then brush it off like a child would do claiming that they didn’t know when exposed. Their own actions alone are enough to warrant disgust never mind those they choose to get matey with and protect.
Homeless people in every town/city centre, kids starving, millions in poverty and they laud this event as if its something to be proud of? Its one of the most embarrassing and shameful things we’ll ever witness.
Those going, watching and in support of this sham are the most two faced, ignorant people this country has to offer. Brainwashed and deluded doesn’t even come close.
@jhinwxm For some light relief I would recommend seeking out Bob Moran's latest cartoon, it features Charlie Boy. You will obviously need to avoid the most popular search engine.
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What do you mean “get what they want”?The ability to mention on here that they are going to a party?
Unusually, I'm agreeing with Ernie- if you can't go to a local social gathering timed to celebrate a royal event simply for the social side without being insulted on here...🤷♂️
Tongue in cheek, but what do the royals offer us? A chance to meet and chat with local friends and neighbours every few years which may not happen without them....🤔
Well my suit is ready….😉
Hope you have a lovely time. Mind and steal something as a souvenir.
It all feels too late, Charles has been desperate to be king for so long, and it just feels like his moment has passed. Deep down we are all waiting for him to peg it, so William can get in on the real action.
It should have been 2012. Diamond Jubilee year, London Olympics, Dave at the helm. Would have been the perfect time for an abdication/accident. we would have lapped it up. sigh
That's quite an astute observation. Semms like Liz II really believed in duty above all and/or that Charles III wasn't up to it.
so William can get in on the real action.
What would that be?
What do you mean “get what they want”?
Its simple enough.
How exactly are the pro group "compromising"?
What are they giving up since thats what compromising is all about.
What would that be?
Pegging?
