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So in the OP, these friends are vegan and organic. My understanding of veganism means you don't touch animal products, but organic fertiliser is mostly cow sh1t. So by going organic, are they no longer pure vegans?
@amatuer no they're not vegan. We were discussing the recent vegan nutters blocking people buying meat when they mentioned going clean/organic.
This has been a really good thread. Always amazed at the knowledge on th8s site!
Which further demonstrates just how much meaningless and waste of time the label actually is. I would be interested to hear what the difference between Salt that is labelled as organic and salt that is not actually is.
It's a label that has a specific meaning according to the soil association. The definitions are available on the soil association website AFAIK. You can read them for yourself.
What is “biological”? You mean naturally occurring yes? Because that makes everything soo much better – hemlock is naturally occurring as well. Excuse me whilst I go and sprinkle some on my avocado toast.
It's not just some nonsense dreamed up in a pub. Read up on on it. It protects the soil and preserves biodiversity on farms amongst other things, including even such things as animal welfare. Organic beef requires that cows spend a lot of time outside (at least 200 days per yer) and eat a lot of grass (at least 60%), for example. And it's been shown that grass-fed beef is better for you as it has more Omega-3 in it.
I suspect many ‘organic’ carrots have the wonky ones chucked ?
I don't think they get chucked. All the wonky fruit and veg goes into the processed food industry where it's chopped up before we get to see it.
Interesting article came out today - organic would have a bad effect on the environment due to the amount of land needed and more travelling for the food
biodynamic
The homeopathy of agriculture....
Organic is a way to go but there's no need for any of these methods to applied to all crops in all circumstances. We need to be reducing pesticides and synthetic fertilizers thats a given but this should be via a a combination of measures from GM for resistance to rewilding unproductive areas and corridors for pollinators and watercourses, lowering erosion, rotational cropping and changes to diet. The trouble is people tend to like to go batshit for one thing to the exclusion of all others. People innit, daft.
All I know for sure is that no tomatoes ever tasted as good as the ones in grandfather’s greenhouse.
It’s certainly true that the cherry tomatoes I used to buy in punnets from the supermarket were nice and red and perfectly shaped, but had no appreciable flavour at all, but the cherry tomatoes that my step-dad grew out the back in gro-bags were absolutely delicious, I could eat them like sweets, they had so much flavour to them.
Were they anymore or less organic than the supermarket ones?
Were they anymore or less organic than the supermarket ones?
Depends on what was in the grow bags and what tomato food he gave them (if any)
All I know for sure is that no tomatoes ever tasted as good as the ones in grandfather’s greenhouse. No idea if ‘organic’ or not, but you couldn’t eat them in the winter or spring they unless were in a chutney...
I think I might remember seeing a little bottle of tomato ‘plant food’ in his greenhouse. Most probably a Monsanto minion.
OTOH, friend’s polytunnel toms are not treated with anything, no insecticides, no chemical/synthetic ‘plant food’ etc. And they taste great too.
I’d like to know how supermarkets make their tomatoes all thick-fleshed, pale, and un-tasty. Force-grown and super-refrigerated?