So - no actual examples of Salmond being a hypocrite? ( I am assuming the usual bile and drivel from THM)
I don't like the man but I respect him as an extremely able political operator, he has made mistakes as all politicians do but he is one of the few I know of to acknowledge his mistakes which is also worthy of respect. He even has said ( I paraphrase) "I know I look like a smug toad sometimes. Thats just my face"
reporting on catalonia today is a case in point on the tv news channels.
rt, 750,000 on the streets protesting jailed leaders.
bbc, rajoy in barcelona to put an end to the crisis.
both true stories, but it's the omissions that help show their respective bias.
as I say, variety of news sources is important.
Jeremy Corbyn got £20,000 appearance fees from Iran’s PressTV. RT has an Ofcom license while PressTV doesn’t.
I’m not a massive fan of either Alex Salmond or RT, but there’s a lot of double standards going on with the people complaining about his show.
one happened yesterday one happened today
WHat is your point exactly?
Here is the report on the protest march from yesterday
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41956909
Seaching spain on RT - I have been now so you have to listen gives only the protest March- it does not even seem to mention any govt response to anything actually
https://www.rt.com/search?q=spain
You are free to lecture me some more on bias[s] and second hand opinion[/s] 😉
PS searched again - note the bias again even using a US media commentator to be one sided.
https://www.rt.com/search?q=rajoy
Do you watch this and then fox news for balance? 😉
On TV bias in Scotland - its not just the BBC. Classic was the STV leaders debate in Scotland. UKIP invited on - one MEP, no other elected representatives. Greens excluded despite having representation on councils and in Holyrood and having 10X the vote share ( IIRC)
the BBC often gives UKIP equivalence to the SNP in airtime. During the independence debate the unionist side got far greater airtime than the independence side with again UKIP allowed representation but not the broader indepenene movement
the constant refusal to allow a "scottish six" news show means we get loads of time allocated to things of no relevance to scotland but scottish affair get little mention. Its public knowledge the reason was political pressure from London to deprive the SNP of airtime
There has been serious analysis of this and there is a clear London bias which automatically means the SNP do not get fair airtime and also analysis of the lines of questioning which as a trend shows clear anti SNP bias with loaded questions.
the problem is the agenda is set in London not Glasgow. thus it never reflects the actuality of political life in Scotland. Much of this is unconscious bias or institutional bias rather than deliberate SNP hating but it means that on tv there is a completely unfair playing field
Please remember I am not and SNP supporter and have never voted for them.
the problem is the agenda is set in London not Glasgow
Its no difference in the North of England - except we know where the capital of Scotland is 😉
Glasgow is where BBC Scotland and STV are based. 🙄
Do you get the loaded questions as well? Ie during the independence debate Murphy got positive questions. Salmond got negative.
I'm speaking specifically of the broadcast agenda junkyard. I was quite aware bbc mentions it on their website. point is take all the news channels with a pinch of salt and be aware you are only getting a snapshot.
Have we done this hilariously biased 1970s BBC report yet?
The tartan oil cans are what make it art.
Episode 1 has got off to a rocky start 🙂 hat tip to order order who have inconveniently checking the tweets featured on the programme - their comments in bold and link below
Alex Salmond’s new RT show is suffering teething problems after it emerged that tweets read out on the programme were posted by a variety of dubious accounts, at least one of which is controlled by the show’s producers. Salmond said he had received an “avalanche” of tweets, but:
A tweet asking “so why RT?” was first up, which the show claimed was sent in by @ellalorenR.[b] No @ellalorenR account exists…[/b]
The question “if you were Prime Minister would you stop Brexit?” was sent by @thegodfather12. [b]This account, set up in 2009, has never tweeted before…[/b]
@admrobrts asked “What does Slainte mean?”, regarding Salmond’s production company Slainte Media.[b] Twitter shows it was posted at 11.08AM, more than three hours after it had been read out on the pre-recorded show…[/b]
Finally, @lastjohn asked “When are you getting President Trump on your show?” [b]@lastjohn is the private account of Luisa St John, an RT employee who appears in the credits as “Series Director”…[/b]
https://order-order.com/2017/11/16/teething-problems-alex-salmonds-rt-show/
2nd item a report on LGBT rights and Scotland pardoning historical cases.that part of Putin's agenda? 😆 it's on the now btw. Repeated at 9pm I think.
Puigdemont up next.
I am still awaiting some evidence of Salmonds supposed hypocrisy. Guess I'll be waiting a while
Just watching it. My irony meter went off the scale as I watched Crispin Blunt saying on Russia Today that all people’s sexuality should be respected. Because that’s what I think of when I think of Putins Russia.... respect for liberal values
Alex Salmond is a tit, and his reputation, such as it is, sinks lower with every minute of this hypocritical drivel
I don't know - A piece on LGBT rights wouldn't really match Putins agenda would it? tit he is not. Marmite he certainly is
There's no agenda here apart from salmonds own, quite obviously so.
He's got someway to go as a talk show host I think. Was all a bit, hmm dunno how to describe it... Is it possible to be sychophantic to your own views? But that probably would be how I'd describe it. You get what i mean?
No idea who crispen blunt is binners so can't comment there.
I am still awaiting some evidence of Salmonds supposed hypocrisy. Guess I'll be waiting a while
Trump
RBS
“Once in a lifetime” Indy vote
Then we have those 500 pages of Indy nonsense and the delibertae lie about having EU membership legal advice
NMOne of those are hypocrisy. Trump was an acknowledged mistake, Indyref stuff is opinion and quite frankly yours counts for far less than the respected academics and economics folk who provided the basis
I remind you again of the dictionary definition of hypocrisy.
a situation in which someone pretends to believe something that they do not really believe, or that is the opposite of what they do or say at another time:
that part of Putin's agenda?
Maskirovka innit
Alexei Salmond. Brilliant 🙂
The pro EU website Politico is not impressed and hits the nail on the head with this opening sentence
Former SNP leader — who’s lived most of his adult life in the limelight — seems terrified of slipping into obscurity.
https://www.politico.eu/article/alex-salmond-rt-russian-roulette-with-reputation
Allegedly fake tweets read out as well
https://order-order.com/2017/11/16/teething-problems-alex-salmonds-rt-show/
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Anyway looking forward to the programme on the effectiveness of the planning system in protecting SSSI's in Scotland
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/nov/08/trump-golf-course-has-ruined-dunes-habitat
so will salmond be pro-brexit now hes on Putins channel?
I am still awaiting some evidence of Salmonds supposed hypocrisy. Guess I'll be waiting a while
"This is a once in a generation opportunity"
A couple of years later.
"We demand another referendum".
I've never personally met him, but do know people who worked for him. They described him as a thoroughly unpleasant, arrogant bully.
He's entitled to his own opinions of course, but needs to shut up about the "people of Scotland". He doesn't speak for me or millions of other Scots. In fact many of us cringe with embarrassment when he appears on national TV with his massive chip on his shoulder, telling us how oppressed we all apparently are.
Oh he is lots of things to lots of people. But hipocisy is not one of his flaws. Thats a changed mind as circumstances change ie pulling us out of the EU against our will and the breach of promises made - also the second referendum is not his decision.
telling us how oppressed we all apparently are.
I'm curious to see if you can find 1 example of that?
SNP spin doctors are too savvy to explicitly use the word "oppressed" but it's implicit in their use of language. And before you say Salmond and the SNP are two different entities, he was their leader for a long time so it's not unreasonable to conflate the two.
As I said though, he's entitled to his opinions, as we all are. I just really resent the way he uses "people of Scotland" as though he and his party are the only political voice in this country.
But hipocisy is not one of his flaws.
It absolutely is. He’ll say anything to promote independence even in the full knowledge it’s untrue.
Brexit is difficult for the SNP as any bespoke deal makes it very difficult for Scotland to leave and join the EU. Plus of course WTO is a disaster for Independence. 80% of their trade is with the UK.
Alexei Salmond will remain against Brexit not least as Labour and Tories are pro. When it’s done and dusted the SNP will use it as an excuse to ask for more money.
If we get the fisheries deal I hope for it will be a massive boost for Scotland. SNP will try and claim credit of course even knowing they opposed it. Hypocrisy
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SNP spin doctors are too savvy to explicitly use the word "oppressed" but it's implicit in their use of language. And before you say Salmond and the SNP are two different entities, he was their leader for a long time so it's not unreasonable to conflate the two.As I said though, he's entitled to his opinions, as we all are. I just really resent the way he uses "people of Scotland" as though he and his party are the only political voice in this country.
It's in your head dude.
Do you want a TV channel that allows people to air their views or not, Binners? RT shows signs of having journalistic freedom and you complain becuase they don't censor it becuase the Russian state is homophobic so perhaps they should as they are the voice of Russia. Where's the hypocrisy? Closer to you than RT I fear.
Someone on RT says all people's sexuality should be respected, that's good. It demonstrates two things: 1/ RT isn't tied to the Kremlin party line. 2/ they are happy to let people state things that will annoy a part of Russia's own population.
RT isn't tied to the Kremlin party line.
I think that's not true. You can have a party line but still allow discussion within a narrow remit on an individual basis. RT on a whole does have a kremilin view, same as bbc has a overall british establishment view. Within that remit though there is some freedom on both channels.
RT UK isn't broadcast in Russia by(as far as I know, least isn't general russian news), it's very much a british based news channel.
jambalaya: He’ll say anything even in the full knowledge it’s untrue.
That is sublime Jamby criticising someone as a hypocrite for making false statements to achieve a political goal
11/10 for that one.
There is no way his posts are not intentional satire as the alternative is unthinkable
EDIT : I am genuinely pissing my self laughing that is the work of a genius
And its only in his opinion they are untrue and that Salmond knows this. I prefer the judgement of the academics, economists and diplomats whose views formed the basis
Idiocy is not hypocrital. mistakes are not hypocrital
I even put up the dictionary definition
And fisheries deal? there will not be one and the powers are going to be reserved for westminster. Only in an independent scotland would fisheries policy come back to Scotland
So he made a false statement for his own political end?I even put up the dictionary definition
Which one do you mean?
Meanwhile Kezia "The SNP should get on with the day job" Dugdale, serving MSP, decides to go on a reality tv show.
She's defecting to the SNP over the weekend so it can be another [i]SNP baaaad[/i] headline.
It was wrong when Nadine Dorries did it, wrong for Kezia to do it too.
Bad form.
I wonder what came first, the call from the producers or the decision to resign the leadership?
It seems to have been a last-minute decision to appear on the show.
There's talk of suspending her from the Labour Party. Maybe that gives her the opportunity to defect ....
stupid decision to do this whatever party she belongs to
