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Return VAT on Air Ambulance fuel payments.
Responsible department: Her Majesty's Treasury
The Air Ambulance Service is forced to meet rising fuel prices year on year including VAT.
The Air Ambulance Service have saved successive governments millions and millions of pounds funded by charitable donations given by the general public to run what has proven to be an essential service.
Whilst the Lifeboat Service has been exempt from VAT on fuel costs since 1977, a similar privilege has not been afforded to the Air Ambulance Service;
We call on the government to have an urgent review of this situation and in doing so
We call on the government to return in the form of grants to Air Ambulance Service providers all the future VAT which the Treasury collects from them so that the Air Ambulance Service is in practice exempt from paying VAT in the same way as the Lifeboat Service.
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https://submissions.epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/29349
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good post
I'm in too!
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signed it too
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done - I must admit, often these sorts of posts are a bit shit, but this is a damned fine suggestion !
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Surely they get the (majority) of the VAT back anyway on fuel and anything else they purchase, and VAT isn't 'fuel duty' - that's something else.
done and all of my staff have been told that they should sign it too
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do road ambulances and fire engines pay this?
[i]do road ambulances and fire engines pay this? [/i]
Irrelevent really, as public money in/out.
do road ambulances and fire engines pay this?Irrelevent really, as public money in/out.
Suppose, but bet that does show through in budgets.
Not irrelevant at all every penny spent on fuel duty comes from the fire or ambo budget and goes to central government same as any other supplier. Where the budget comes from is irrelevent. Money spent on fuel duty is money that can't be spent on frontline services and it's a huge amount of cash. At a time when budgets are being slashed seem like a good place to redirect some cash to providing emergency cover.
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Signed, thanks for sharing.
[i]Not irrelevant at all every penny spent on fuel duty comes from the fire or ambo budget and goes to central government same as any other supplier. Where the budget comes from is irrelevent. Money spent on fuel duty is money that can't be spent on frontline services and it's a huge amount of cash. At a time when budgets are being slashed seem like a good place to redirect some cash to providing emergency cover. [/i]
Mate, don't kid yourself, if they didn't pay the VAT they'd lose an equivilent value from their budgets - fact.
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As my user name might suggest Im on the inside on this one and i have a detailed understanding of how my employers budget is sourced, set and spent and I can guarante that money spent on fuel duty for the fleet comes from our overall budget and if we didn't spend it on duty it would still be there to invest in fleet kit etc.
Fuel duty and VAT on fuel two different things
I can guarante that money spent on fuel duty for the fleet comes from our overall budget and if we didn't spend it on duty it would still be there to invest in fleet kit etc.
But if you didn't have to pay for duty your budget would be cut.
great cause but surely they can reclaim all thier VAT anyway? their turnover must be amply in excess of 73k pa..
pky999.. surely fuel is a front line expense? and i'd suspect that if any costs were removed from the process the budget would be reduced proportionally..
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do road ambulances and fire engines pay this?
Our trust pays at the pump price, VAT, fuel duty the full lot.
Mate, don't kid yourself, if they didn't pay the VAT they'd lose an equivilent value from their budgets - fact.
Just by putting Fact on the end doesn't make it so. Ambulance trusts are now heading away from being given a budget, they going for Pay by Response. If they could save on the fuel VAT then it would be a huge saving which would be invested into patient care.
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Expensive waste of money in my view, (flaming to commence now please).
The budget to keep an aircraft in the air to rescue idiots who have crashed their cars could and should be better spent on more cost effective "health-care treatments". I'm talking the non-sexy but life changing stuff like cornea transplants and hip replacements.
APF
I'm sure that will elicit a stream of "my child was saved" type posts. Meaningless.
I could counter with similar "my granny (and dozens of other grannies) can now walk/see"
APF
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do road ambulances and fire engines pay this?
[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-17379009 ]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-17379009[/url]
Wonder how many "frontline"jobs will go?
idiots who have crashed their car
what about those who get crashed into?
The budget to keep an aircraft in the air to rescue idiots who have crashed their cars could and should be better spent on more cost effective "health-care treatments".
what about all those idiots that go down Jump Gulley at Swinley without any protective gear, and/or inappropriate bikes?
Life saving is more important than life changing hip replacements, no?
Is it true that some/all ambulances* "on call" at ambulance stations are left with their engines running ?
Was told this yesterday and wondered if there was any substance.
* wheeled variety not helicopters.
Is it true that some/all ambulances* "on call" at ambulance stations are left with their engines running ?Was told this yesterday and wondered if there was any substance.
I worked next to an ambulance station for years and never saw any vehicles with engines running
Ambulances and to some extent fire appliances are left running due to the massive electrical load imposed by all the Gucci ancillary systems. In the fire service we have the luxury of bieng able to " plug them in " to ensure it will start my colleagues in the ambulance service don't have this luxury hence vehicles left running. Our budget is provided partly by council tax partly by central government and the elected fire authority agree how the budget is spent our budget has never altered to reflect a surplus or more usually a deficit. So essentially a percentage of all fuel duty paid by a FRS comes from your council tax and goes straight into the treasury and at the risk of going on about it of we didn't pay it we would have it to spend elsewhere. The spend it or lose it culture ended with us ten years ago. Just for interest average fuel consumption of a fire appliance around a mile per litre including responding routine and pumping use.
Any more for any more?
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Is it true that some/all ambulances* "on call" at ambulance stations are left with their engines running ?
Certainly not in our trust, we have plug in charges because of all the electrical gear they have now they need to be on charge if idle for too long they start to shut of these down. They usually left running though as always out, we don't have the luxury of the Fire Service of being in most of the day.