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More frilling round the edges. Does it stop the fossil fuel industry extracting oil, gas and coal from the ground? If not then no. This is the only question that needs answering IMO. The only actions worth taking are those that prevent the extraction of fossil fuels.

If you are looking for huge impact single decisions then good luck.

If you can reduce millions of things by an amount we get a significant reduction. In terms of general livability scrapping personal car journeys in cities is massive, it creates more space for mass transit and the culture for alternatives. Every day I see full trams and a busy cycle way, each one of those people is probably 3-5l of petrol per day that is not being consumed,  we are now at 41million journeys per year in manchester, if that was just 2l per journey then it's 80 million litres of fuel. find a way to double that and that is stopping people taking fossil fuels out of the ground. Replicate that across a few places and it does become significant and easy to adopt.


 
Posted : 10/10/2018 1:59 pm
 dazh
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find a way to double that and that is stopping people taking fossil fuels out of the ground.

Is it though? We've had a massive increase in renewables, a massive increase in train an public transport usage, a massive increase in recycling, a massive reduction in single use plastics like plastic bags. Yet still fossil fuel use is still increasing. We're well past the point where supply is reactive to demand. Supply creates the demand, and market forces are not going to solve this. I agree that it's unlikely that these sort of huge macro-economic actions will happen, but it doesn't change the fact that it's the only solution.

Without wanting to sound like a tin-hat conspiracist, I actually think the likes of the US govt and corporate elite want it to happen. There's a lot of money to be made out of the ultimate disaster-capitalist opportunity, and the geopolitical chaos will provide excellent opportunities for a new wave of colonialism.


 
Posted : 10/10/2018 8:02 pm
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Nice cut/paste/crop graph there...

But that reads that despite a rise in overall energy demand the oil use is slowing and other sources are taking over?

That with an increasing world population and industrialisation we are not increasing consumption of fossil fuels with demand?

Is it though? We’ve had a massive increase in renewables, a massive increase in train an public transport usage, a massive increase in recycling, a massive reduction in single use plastics like plastic bags.

Has there been a massive increase in public transport use? You are looking at national issues and comparing to a global demand, the UK is a very small cog in that but one that needs to play our part.


 
Posted : 10/10/2018 8:20 pm
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